MrZepher wrote:@Toon
I've said like 2 or 3 times already that I'm VT, but I think a couple of those were soft soooooo
Mod: I'm V/LA for the next week because I no longer have internet at my house, and I actually have stuff to do at work now.
Maxous wrote:Back and yeah, I beleive Mr.Zepher is mafia.
=> He found NS the scummiest person in the game on Night 1 - enough to target him with an 'investigative role', yet he claims he was'nt "paying attention to NS".
=> He also states a gut town read on NS while NS behaves exactly the same in Day 2 and Day 3 as Day 1 - when he found him suspicious enough to 'investigate'. How would he suddenly become town looking?
=> He says my vote is paper thin because he does'nt remember every point in which he suspected NS. How in the world do you forget someone that you found so scummy, you targeted him with an 'investigative role'.
=> He says he targeted NS with awatcherability because he found him the scummiest. If you are a watcher the last person you target is your suspects. The mafia are not going to night kill thier buddy. The chances are slim mafia would target NS at all. And NS is hardly gonna target himself. The clear town watcher target was the masons.
=> This is way too coincidental that he targeted theone personthat has a cop-clear on them with theexact rolein which he says he can show NS is not cop-cleared
And he also softclaimed VT a couple of times earlier in the game under virtually no pressure. He has changed his claim here.
How am I supposed to give a fuck about somebody I didn't ever get a result on?
You're not even looking at the fact that I never for a second considered the KoC "breadcrumbed result" as accurate or justified.
Do you even know where I soft claimed Maxous? If you look back can you think of any sort of town motivation I could have for said soft claiming?
Are there ANY other reasons why I could be scum? Do I have any potential scum buddies?
What you're trying to use against me could be mistakes made just as easily as town than as scum.
Pine wrote:Interesting...considering that it IS a pretty reasonable plan for you if the person you're voting for flips scum, that comment just reeks of self-preserving worry and foreknowledge of the flip.
Maxous wrote:
How am I supposed to give a fuck about somebody I didn't ever get a result on?
Completely missing the point. If somebody is scummy enough for you to investigate you don't randomly decide they are not scummy anymore for no reason.
You're missing the point I'm making. I didn't get any result, as in my suspicion was left virtually unchanged after that night. From that point forward, obviously something must have changed for me to consider NS at town. You're disregarding the fact that I'm allowed to have a change of opinion, just as I'm allowed to change those opinions back.
You're not even looking at the fact that I never for a second considered the KoC "breadcrumbed result" as accurate or justified.
You have just as much reason as scum to dismiss it.
I mean you're right but that isn't the case.
Do you even know where I soft claimed Maxous? If you look back can you think of any sort of town motivation I could have for said soft claiming?
Here yes?
So the town will only lose a VT if you are lynched... yet you claim to be a power role so this and the calls to be vigged make little sense if you were trying to 'prevent mafia from NK you'. Does'nt add up.
Yes it does. Why would I want to draw attention to myself by claiming JOAT? Not only does that distract the town, it keeps me from using my roles as a protective role. I had every right to not claim until I was at L-1. And I only asked to make sure you were actually reading. It sounded an awful lot like you were just repeating what I had told silver/toon earlier.
Are there ANY other reasons why I could be scum? Do I have any potential scum buddies?
I mentioned it in the last big post. Only following through with your suspicions when others in the town agreed.You've done the exact same thing with your vote. Your hypocrisy here inadvertently also calls you scum. I had my vote on you pretty much the whole day until NS decided he was going to not post content asked of him. I had voiced prior to that that I was okay with an NS lynch, but you were my prime lynch candidate.
As for the scum buddies, why did you ask this? Is my points anyway weaker since I have'nt?
No, I'm saying that it wouldn't make any sense for me to be scum, I have nobody to be scum with.
As town I have several people that I need to work with to succeed.
What you're trying to use against me could be mistakes made just as easily as town than as scum.
I am voting for you because your suspicion of NS is inconsistent and looks fake.
And I'm trying to point out that you're full of shit. You're scum trying to die down NS's wagon so you can keep your partner in the game.
Toon Fighter wrote:The only other possible explanation is that scum thought I was a SK, or that I would miss my shot tonight. Because of yesterday's play, I was likely gonna shoot Max or Mr Zepher, but most likely Max. That leaves with the following options:
1) Pine is scum RB and RB me last night to prevent me from killing scum (most likely to me)
2) There is another RB, scum aligned, and Pine is RB town aligned (not very likely, I don't believe we have 2 RB in this game)
3) Scum thought I was SK (possibly NK immune) and didn't bother to shoot me (maybe, but I could still hit scum in that scenario)
4) Scum thought I was gonna miss my kill, that was likely on Max last night (the other possibility, but we can only be sure if Pine flips)
Therefore, if Pine is innocent, Max is likely innocent aswell. If Pine is scum, Max is also likely to be scum
Toon Fighter wrote:Just one more thing: What about Pine? He claimed RB and lived for 2 whole nights. Instead of him, scum killed a possible cop and a confirmed VT. Why? Why would scum give away the possibility of killing a town RB just to kill a VT? It doesn't make much sense to me. That, plus the fact that he blocked me, puts Pine back in the suspect list (plus, his attacks on mastin and his defence of NS)