Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Yosarian2]

We've had, at my last count six different people doing seperate partial, confusing, limited, unclear, vague, or misleading power-roleclaims (which, yes, includes me, as I was forced to do a partial roleclaim by Serephem's partial roleclaim) . This game has become a complete clusterfuck, and if we're not careful, we might end up in one of those "accidental massclaim" situations which would be the WORST possible thing for the town to do on day two of a CULT game.

So, Hero, if you were serious about being a cop with a guilty on someone, just tell us who you got the guilty on so we can lynch whoever that is, get rid of a scum, and avoid any more quasi-role-claiming today. Everyone else, let's call a moratorium on claiming stuff for now. In that light, I'm going to temporally put off my demands for ML to explain himself; he will have to explain himself, but I'm starting to think that now might not be the time.

[Battousai]

^Um. No? ML claimed that Seraphim is lying dirtbag, but has taken it back due to unclearedness. If ML is town, then cult already know she is an investigative role. That's all the information they really need to determine if the slot is a threat or not. We, on the otherhand, do not have enough information to determine if she is lying cult or town or if seraphim is cult or town. What she claims she found out can help us, whereas it is already too late to not help the cult.

[ooba]

Hero needs to clarify ..

Also take investigative stuff with a pinch of salt .. I remember Succession I ..

[Battousai]

I don't, so just stop referencing Succession 1 unless you plan on clarifying your position.

[Yosarian2]

^Um. No? ML claimed that Seraphim is lying dirtbag, but has taken it back due to unclearedness. If ML is town, then cult already know she is an investigative role. That's all the information they really need to determine if the slot is a threat or not. We, on the otherhand, do not have enough information to determine if she is lying cult or town or if seraphim is cult or town. What she claims she found out can help us, whereas it is already too late to not help the cult.

I suppose you're right; if ML is town now, and he actually has some useful information, we want to get his information today, instead of waiting until tomorrow when he might be recruited. So, yeah. If you actually have information, ML, please share it.

[ooba]

I don't, so just stop referencing Succession 1 unless you plan on clarifying your position.

My position is "take your investigative flavor with a pinch of salt" ..

[bvoigt]

We're limiting the lynch to the list I arbitrarily came up with because my guilty result was on one of the people from that list.

Wait...what?

Are you saying that you are a cop with a guilty, but you aren't going to tell us who you got a guilty on?

What the heck is going on in this game? Did everyone get "must talk in overly cryptic terms" as a post restriction or something?

I might or might not have that posting restriction.

Have you played with scum!Katsuki? 'cause she was scum in my most recent completed game. Add in her somewhat changed style from D1 and I'm convinced. Now, where have you been, hmm?

Yeah, LLD has played with Katsuki as scum. From what I remember, Kats was significantly more active in that game. What about her style has changed?

[Cobblerfone]

Yeah, LLD has played with Katsuki as scum. From what I remember, Kats was significantly more active in that game. What about her style has changed?

HOLY HELL
THOSE DGB/CR INTERACTIONS ARE TERRIBAD.
WE HAVE CULT HERE FOLKS.

VOTE: DGB

She goes from being somewhat indifferent D1, going so far as to "lurk until my eventual mislynch", to posting in all caps using this awful case as an excuse to vote DGB.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I guarantee I have played with scum!Katsuki and Town!Katsuki more than you have.

But Meta is useless anyway.

[Cobblerfone]

I guarantee I have played with scum!Katsuki and Town!Katsuki more than you have.

Alright then.

[Katsuki]

Funny thing being, Cobbler has only ever played one game with me before.

No wonder there is a Cobbler wagon, but lynching bad player is not the way to go when we're suppose to be lynching scum.
Like DGB for example.

[Cobblerfone]

Katsuki, what makes you so sure that DGB is culted? And by whom?

[Herodotus]

Are you saying that you are a cop with a guilty, but you aren't going to tell us who you got a guilty on?

I have a cop result stating that porochaz is a recruit. I hadn't yet said whom my result was on, but that doesn't mean I wasn't planning to.

I think we should bank some time by lynching soon, now that my result is out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kats, I have a town read on DGB.

Cobbler is doing things that even dumb town wouldn't do.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki, what makes you so sure that DGB is culted? And by whom?

No idea by whom, but her "WOE IS ME, VOTE ME I AM CULT" reaction with kinetic's supposed results seem extremely fake to me.

ABR was on the sidelines saying nothing, so not much to read into that.

I am against listening to what the CRs have to say at all, and I can't see someone like DGB who is usually sensible interacting like she did with Kinetic as town.

Kats, I have a town read on DGB.

Cobbler is doing things that even dumb town wouldn't do.

Read Speed Mafia. Cobbler had no problems painting him as scum without any help from us scum.

I did miss the last week, but I'm curious as to this DGB town-read.

[Cobblerfone]

No idea by whom, but her "WOE IS ME, VOTE ME I AM CULT" reaction with kinetic's supposed results seem extremely fake to me.

ABR was on the sidelines saying nothing, so not much to read into that.

This is better. Though, not to get into semantics (or whatever part of language it is) it seems odd that you said "THOSE INTERACTIONS"which seems to imply that you thought it was staged between Kinetic and DGB instead of "THAT RESPONSE".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Katsuki, have you not seen DGB pull this suicide stunt before? It's totally null.

[Battousai]

Ooba- I meant don't bring up Succession 1 to back up your claim without referencing roles or quotes or something in the game and not the game in general

Due to guilty result,

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Poro

[Herodotus]

That is the one, right? If Poro or whoever isn't cult then lynch Hero tomorrow. Unless he admits to gambitting before the lynch. I believe that accounts for all but a few scenarios.

If porochaz is town, I expect to be killed by a vig. I can see the potential advantages if I was left alive to collect another result in case I'm insane and happen to investigate scum tonight, but the vigs would probably prefer to kill me in case I was cult because I might be useful to the cult. And if I was lynched tomorrow for providing an inaccurate result, it would not be an informative wagon.

My role PM doesn't guarantee my sanity. But I'm more than 90% sure my result is accurate.

I have a cop result stating that porochaz is a recruit.

This wasn't quite right. It says he's scum, and I'm assuming there are no factions besides the town and the two cults.

[Battousai]

Or if you are correct and he is a recruit, you may still be vig'd to prevent the cult from recruiting you tonight.

BAM! I just made you unrecruitable tonight through WIFOM.

[xvart]

Regarding Seraphim - two people have claimed to have been roleblocked due to a pm from Flay, so you either know you were roleblocked or you weren't.

HOLY HELL
THOSE DGB/CR INTERACTIONS ARE TERRIBAD.
WE HAVE CULT HERE FOLKS.

VOTE: DGB

You never responded to my post.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Prozac

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: prozac

[populartajo]

pretty sure herodotus could have got prozac lynched without having to claim

vote: prozac.

[Porochaz]

So we have a list of players made by Hero, people question him "Oh I have a guilty on one of them, thats why!", Why do it like that? Seems clear to me he dug himself a hole and is desperately trying to dig himself out with whatever shit gets thrown at him. Why take the actions he did? Why fanny around asking questions of all the players when he supposedly knew who to vote? This is yet another clear fakeclaim/recruited scum claim and Im suprised that even the better players are going for it when even without the initial list and questioning which detracts from his claim, its iffy. Those who have read Succession 1 will know what Im talking about. ReaperCharlie anyone? He was cop which got recruited by BBM early on and then managed to influence the town massively whilst doing BBM's bidding. You ask me not to mention Suc. 1. but its the exact same situation here.

[Seraphim]

Even if he has been recruited, I honestly think that he would only claim a guilty if he actually had one.