Gammagooey wrote:hohum wrote:After due consideration, jahudo is probtown.
Whyzis.
And don't you dare give me "I'm right about inhims so jahudos town because inhims is scum".
Gammagooey wrote:siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
hohum you're pretty clearly town.
fairly sure inhims is too.
go back through jahudros iso and tell me if you think what I said about him makes sense. because i really think it does and also that he is scum.
spastic players tend to vote hop. It isn't a scum tell; however, do you think it's forgivable that a player does something that can be construed as scummy and then switches tactics to [b[HARD CORE LURKING[/b]Gama wrote:chesskid is a town lean but that vote hop is paranoid city
In post [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3154878#p3154878]216[/url], Fluttershy wrote:Bolding on my part to emphasis the thing that confused me. Yes, we could all tell that they were roleplaying as Applejack, but you said Big Macintosh instead...why is that?
Jahudo wrote:Because I was making a joke. Anyway how does my knowledge of a secondary character make you think I don't know the show? That's kinda funny actually.
Jahudo wrote:I can't tell which one is you there. And it appears that chesskid was mostly wagoned because someone claimed to have role information on him. That isn't the same as policy lynching someone because they hurt the town by being in the game.
Jahudo wrote:No, read it again. inHim was using the false logic that both WLC and TheLonging were voting chesskid for the same reason. That is still fact and I stand by the conclusions I drew from it. The only benefit I gave him was that WLC is not doing enough scumhunting and therefore does not look town at the moment. But the way inHim voted him was inappropriate.
Jahudo wrote:Why don't you agree with this reasoning?
If a player is scummy for X, it is good to vote him vote X. If he did not do Y, it is invalid to vote him for doing Y.Gammagooey wrote:wlc looked and looks like scum so he got voted.
That is still scumhunting on my part. I commented on the wagons and how I did not think they led to scumtells, but also where town players can justify their voting actions. I'm not going to lie and say someone is my top scum read when I don't have confidence in anyone being scum at that juncture.Gammagooey wrote:your early play of defending a lot of early wagons without giving anything of your own until the inhims vote, bringing up a friggen' chart of characters and a bunch of tangential info about the characters instead of just saying that you think espy is scum/not-scum, you going from questions everywhere with your inhims vote to
I'm not clear what posts you are talking about. You reference my call for other people to re-look at inHim, that is somehow an example?Gammagooey wrote:all look like they're coming from scum instead of town- it's like you're distanced from the game and making comments about it instead of actively diving in and figuring stuff out- I feel like that a lot when I get stuck into a scum role and I think that you feel the same way and were primarily trying to make accurate comments on the game for later instead of having to sort through suspicions and paranoia about the other player's alignments.
I don't like how you put words in his mouth but in the end you are calling him probtown so it doesn't look like you are trying to throw mud in his direction.Gammagooey wrote:And don't you dare give me "I'm right about inhims so jahudos town because inhims is scum".
The idea of my joke was to focus on one party of his softclaim (being an authority of apples, having apples without genetic engineering, etc) that could apply to both ponies while ignoring the obvious southern dialect that only applies to Applejack. The "..." was used for comedic timing and the emoticon was there to make sure my attitude was clear. I think that's the best way I can explain it.Fluttershy wrote:Exactly...that is what confused me. Unless you had some reason to suggest that she was Big Macintosh which is what crossed my mind
Maybe there is an e-grudge like you say, chesskid and Fate also cross-voted in that game, but it came across as playful banter to me. That also could be because I saw them in a large game not too long ago.Fluttershy wrote:Para claimed that he was pushing for a PL (some kind of e-grudge with Chesskid I guess)
It is hard to boil down into a few words. Essentially:Fluttershy wrote:Oh...I think I have to read all his arguments again...I don't know why but I always end up at the point of "wtf is going on now?" when I am reading them.
I think you are being hypocritical here. How is that different than me not voting by page 5?Fluttershy wrote:if you vote no-lynch, that is just drawing more attention to yourself which just counters the purpose of hiding =/
jahudo wrote:I don't like how you put words in his mouth but in the end you are calling him probtown so it doesn't look like you are trying to throw mud in his direction.
Gammagooey wrote:oh one more thing though.
jahudo wrote:I don't like how you put words in his mouth but in the end you are calling him probtown so it doesn't look like you are trying to throw mud in his direction.
well i don't like YOUR FACEYou do realize that hohum has said that's the reason why he thinks you're town right. Because accurately assessing someone's reasoning for a townread PROBABLY isn't a scumtell. ya know, based on my experience with Things and Stuff.
inHimshallibe wrote:I don't think you interpreted my original reasoning correctly.The bold indicates I was upset he was using that outdated reason.For 1)not commenting on discussion between those of us who had voted and subsequently unvoted TheLonging, 2)being vague about chesskid, and 3)killing innocent ponies.
WeyounsLastClone wrote:Not to beat the 'no lynch' horse (or pony in this case) again, but I really don't get why you would vote No Lynch during random voting stage. If you're not trying to tie yourself to anyone, I think that's more beneficial as scum than town. It's a RVS for a reason.
Gammagooey wrote:I'm confused.
I Thought that post meant you thought jahudo was town because you think inhims is scum and you don't think they're bussing.
which was exactly what i thought you'd say but if you said it then it was basically worthless in terms of me figuring stuff out hence saying don't you dare etc.
which is then followed by me thinking that i got what you said right and saying that to jahudros because if i say i think i know why you think hudo's town and am right then that as a scumtell doesn't make any sense
so i'm not really getting what i got wrong here.
Why do you think he voted WLC?Gammagooey wrote:if you go through inhims iso it's pretty clear why he voted wlc
Don't hide behind that argument. We all know WLC needs to play. I've never argued he shouldn't be under scrutiny. But to wagon a lurker for a false reason is not town play. It is actually undermining the wagon. He is doing a disservice to what should be a wagon about pressuring WLC to produce more content by commenting and questioning his latest posts. inHim isn't even trying to do that, and never said he cared in the first place.Gammagooey wrote:the way to get a better read on a player is for them to friggen' post more, which wlc hasn't done at allllllll.