BBmolla wrote:It seems to me that he's a town member that doesn't care, which in the long run could be more detrimental to the town than a scum member hiding amongst the town.
However, he could possibly be scum trying to throw us off by asking to be lynched.
You're voting a town read? We can win with a somewhat anti-town townie alive. We can't win if we don't lynch scum.
I'm not getting a town read, I'm getting a dumb read. Which could go either way.
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Look, I'm not 100% certain he's mafia. There only way I would know for sure is if he cc'd me as a PR. All I do know is I wouldn't want him to be with me in a 3 way LYLO, and there is no way, if he is town, that the mafia is going to kill him.
He is either:
A. Mafia.
B. A town member who doesn't care.
Yes. A town member who doesn't care would be a dumb read.
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FYI, my vote on srg is just a place filler because I'm too lazy to unvote, but I'm really not voting for anyone right now.
I fully intend to put my vote on one of {kad, verydark, toast} after some analysis, but this weekend has been a bad time for me (out-of-state friends visiting) and I'll be doing this some time in the next 24-48 hours hopefully.
Haze wrote:BV, how would you normally attempt to distinguish Village Idiot from Mafia?
I try to read their posts and think about the underlying motivations. Are they writing from a town perspective or a scum perspective? And I still have a slight town read on Kad.
BBmolla wrote:Look, I'm not 100% certain he's mafia. There only way I would know for sure is if he cc'd me as a PR. All I do know is I wouldn't want him to be with me in a 3 way LYLO, and there is no way, if he is town, that the mafia is going to kill him.
He is either:
A. Mafia.
B. A town member who doesn't care.
Yes. A town member who doesn't care would be a dumb read.
Well yeah, he's either mafia or town. Which one do you think he is? It still sounds to me like you actually have a town read on him.
bvoigt wrote:Well yeah, he's either mafia or town. Which one do you think he is? It still sounds to me like you actually have a town read on him.
I have a dumb read. I don't know how much plainer I can put this. I'd be willing to spend a mislynch on him because he could quite possibly be maf, and if not, no big loss. I mean he's semi lurking, which may be due to the fact that he's scared of looking scummy, which in turn makes him look scummy.
At this point in time, he's my scummiest read.
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I'm going to church right now, but I'll continue reading the thread afterwards (Just about to start page 5.
Small observations:
1.) SRG, I personally would've stuck with BBmolla with such a case and FoS'd the other guy, unless I had a very good reason to switch. I understand your reasons, mind, I just don't think it was good thinking.
2.) Nice case on red, Toasty. I'd vote him for that if I replaced in on page 4 instead of page 11.
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Haze - As of page 7, he hasn't posted as much (yet still more than some others). Still, I feel that he has given good content and has been contributing well, especially with ISO 4. There's a bit of a damper with the line of questioning about whether or not he was rolefishing, but in this case it's minor enough that it doesn't affect his overall town read that much.
BBmolla - I did say that redcobalt was looking scummy back when I was at page 4, but BB has stood out far more after the next 3 pages. Horrible one-word responses, general fear of being suspected (as pointed out by verydark), and generally sounding like he's appeasing.
Redcobalt - On a personal note, I just don't really like the way you type. Setting that aside, he's one of the more null reads. I'd have to look over his posts again to confirm what I'm thinking right now, but as of right now I feel as if the scumminess I felt at that one post has been somewhat...leveled out, for lack of a better word.
SomeRandomGuy - Don't really agree with the "vote BB with a good case (as good as one gets at that point, anyways), then disregard it to vote someone else", but hey, your choice. Overall, though, he's town. [bias]THen again, anyone with Auron as an avatar is automatically awesome and automatically town, so there.[/bias]
kad - Leaning scum, hasn't really done much but lurk, so there's not much else to really go off of.
verydark - Nice opening post on BB, making you town because of it.
Toastytoast - You were already leaning town by page 4, and how you dealt with the accusations against you on page 7 solidified it.
Zmuff - Brash, confident (overconfident?), yet somewhat town. You're still no Thor, though. He's got that playstyle down pat.
bviogt - I honestly haven't really looked at you, so you're null.
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zMuffinMan wrote:wait.. did he just say he'd vote for himself if he replaced in earlier?
Well, if I wasn't Cobalt's replacement and I replaced in, yes.
Anyways, after catching up to the game, BB's still a top suspect, but it seems as if kad is just asking for a lynch for whatever reason. Interested in hearing Kad's response to Haze's 260 as well as some of the other questions directed at him. Kad SEEMS like the obvious lynch for today, but I'd much rather think it through rather than rashly string him up. If he answers poorly, though, I'll be sure to be on him.
BB: Just put that you'll be V/LA in bold (like in my sig). Very important to have it bolded so the mod can see it and make note of it.
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Kad - very much coasting through the game and responding to absolutely nothing except to throw in the odd bit of suspicion with no reasoning and a vote, it's not pro-town play no matter how you cut it.
What i am interested in also though is the speed the bus began rolling onto kad, there seemed to be little or no defence of him when this seems to be the closest to lynch we've taken someone and it's becoming an actual possibility but Bv did kind of stand by questioning as it happened.
We also have BB - is it me or are his posts begining to make sense more so than previously? He suddenly bumped his knowledge up about 10x.
So reading kad in ISO, I don't like any of his posts, but I'm having a bit of trouble determining whether it's newb-scum or newb-town here. The aggressive tunneling of BB without much explanation, while forming no real opinions on anyone else except for mentioning them as suspicious in passing is really, really scummy. My only real hesitation here is that if kad is newb-town, his lynch is the least useful in terms of information.
Looking at verydark - he replaced Quackers, who had a single post with no content in it. I don't really have all too much of an issue with verydark, nothing really looks all that scummy in his posts, I just don't like his tunneling of BB. I want to look at verydark's scum meta before I decide on anything else here.
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VOTE: Toasty
Putting my vote here while I look at a few more things.
ToastyToast wrote:The newb card isn't a great defense in a NEWBIE GAME. You know, where more than half the layer list is a newb?
Umm...Yes it is...
Muffin: I'm giving Cobalt null. I give myself a townread ^_^. But yes, I'd agree that kad's lynch is the least useful if we go through with it right now.
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We can win with a somewhat anti-town townie alive. We can't win if we don't lynch scum.
