Mini 1190: Game over

[hiplop]

Giving you "town points" for unvoting, continuous stalling, getting caught in his words etc.

If you vig me, you're killing a townie, and that would be bad play.

[Sunday]

continuous stalling

Example?

getting caught in his words etc.

Example?

hiplop

, I posed you another question in my most recent post that you have yet to answer. Do so. Additionally, since when have you expressed suspicion of

SleepyKrew

; why are you offering to hammer when

Hoppster

seems to be a greater suspect of yours?

[Twistedspoon]

Votecount1.19

No facts this time. Here's a joke instead

Sleepykrew(L-1) - Hoppster, Empking PBuG, Sundy, Panzer, Xvart

Hiplop(3) - Sunday, Vollkan, Thomith
Hoppster(2) - Hiplop, Thefool
Panzer(1) - Sleepykrew

Not Voting (1) - Captain Corporal


With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch, 6 to no lynch.
The deadline is 6th July GMT 08:00[/b][/size]

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[Sundy]

OMG there is a Sunday now too??

unreal.

Sunday, can you tell us why you say you are already prepared to vig the hammer vote? Does it have anything to do with your read on SK? Do you think he is innocent? If so, why??? And have you read the entire game yet?

[hiplop]

continuous stalling

Example?

"ill read this when i get on a computer, ill post m big post tonight, actually tomorrow etc" not hard to find

getting caught in his words etc.

Example?
Read his post rirght after the ones i mentioned above. Getting lost in what hes saying

hiplop

, I posed you another question in my most recent post that you have yet to answer. Do so. Additionally, since when have you expressed suspicion of

SleepyKrew

; why are you offering to hammer when

Hoppster

seems to be a greater suspect of yours?

Nope, i suspect sk a lot more

[PJ.]

FoS:Empking

for his stance on useless roles. If we all decided to lynch useless roles, he would have been lynched page 4. Also, he just seems so throw together.

I think this wagon has two scum on it and they are just straight bussing. (xvart and Empking in my opinion)

Speaking of Godfather claims(referencing the Toro situation), I'm much more apt to call this a godfather claim.

Mod:I understand beggers can't be choosers but did you have to pick up a replacement named "Sunday"? My brain is about to break

[Twistedspoon]

Mod:I understand beggers can't be choosers but did you have to pick up a replacement named "Sunday"? My brain is about to break

I was aware of Sunday's name when I let him replace him

I'm grateful that he replaced in

[SleepyKrew]

@mod
Can you put who replaced who in the OP? Like how other mods do?

[Empking]

FoS:Empking

for his stance on useless roles. If we all decided to lynch useless roles, he would have been lynched page 4.

Yes but you don't all agree with me so that doesn't really matter.

Also, he just seems so throw together.

Pardon?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh God.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Emp

[Empking]

Oh God.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Emp

Why?

[SleepyKrew]

Yes but you don't all agree with me so that doesn't really matter.

[Empking]

Yes but you don't all agree with me so that doesn't really matter.

And that's scummy because...

[SleepyKrew]

"We should lynch Krew for this but not me because you don't listen to me."

[Twistedspoon]

@mod
Can you put who replaced who in the OP? Like how other mods do?

i already did

you have some nerve assuming these things

[SleepyKrew]

My bad, I was looking at the Alive List.

[Twistedspoon]

TS 1


SK 0

[SleepyKrew]

Fail votecounts.

Touché

[xvart]

Yes, and I admitted it was the trigger.

The only way I can attempt to explain is through poker. If me and another player are playing heads up, and I have every right to think that I have the better hand and then someone tells me that there is a good chance that he could be a guy who bluffs a lot, I'm gonna call because it will give me information I can use in the future.

I have every reason to think his is scum, but I'm curious to see if this is a meta tell, because it could help me in the future and in the long run, it will make him a better player.

So... No response to my comparison between basing scum reads off of unflipped town reads and basing scum reads off of unflipped scum reads?

overaggressive and erratic

This will be my meta, for both scum and town.
I'm a

2 Shot BP Townie

A 2 shot BP seems strange as a town role if Toro was telling the truth about his role. I suspect SleepyKrew is not telling us the full story. I've never seen a 2 shot BP before. Has anyone else, and if so what game?

Well, the above post just earned mega townpoints.

This is ridiculous. And the whole conversation between Sleepy and CC (640 - 643) is even more ridiculous.

Empking

, it should be asserted that there is a real loss on the 'off chance' you are wrong; you have lynched a town-aligned player who, for example, I could easily clear with my vigilante ability.

Why would you waste a vig kill to possibly confirm a BP claim, especially considering BP does not confirm alignment?

Sunday - why are you so concerned with Empking's vote on SleepyKrew and not anyone else's? Especially in light of Sleepy being a town read of yours. Shouldn't you be questioning everyone on the wagon to avoid lynching someone who might be town (or however you put it)?

PEDIT: The whole lynching town argument thing is really silly. Are you really 100% convinced he's town because he claimed bulletproof?

This.

[Empking]

"We should lynch Krew for this but not me because you don't listen to me."

No.

I

should vote Krew for that but not myself because I already know I'm town.

[SleepyKrew]

Yes, but if we all listened to you, then you'd be dead.

[Empking]

Yes, but if we all listened to you, then you'd be dead.

Yes but you don't so that doesn't matter.

[SleepyKrew]

A 2 shot BP seems strange as a town role if Toro was telling the truth about his role. I suspect SleepyKrew is not telling us the full story. I've never seen a 2 shot BP before. Has anyone else, and if so what game?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17378
I'm sure there are others. Why would I invent a role? In a Normal?

Is nobody else seeing Emp's failogic?

[TBuG]

These

are

some pretty God-awful questions.

PBuG

, why would you deem the questions to be of an unacceptable quality and then answer them?

Because, unlike you, I generally answer all questions asked of me when presented with them. I figured there was no harm in doing so. I was also trying to joke around.

Unvote; Vote: Hoppster

for that fucking stupid second.

PBuG

, what was 'fucking stupid' about

Hoppster's

vote? Why did you feel the need to use coarse language? Moreover, what is wrong with placing a second vote on someone?

I didn't see any logic in that vote. I didn't see what was scummy about CC's post in the slightest. I use coarse language in everyday posting and conversation, fucking deal with it. Welcome to mafiascum, we like to swear here. I think a second vote on page one with no reasoning that I can see is silly.

Sunday's really doing nothing to dissuade me of my thoughts that he/Toro is potential scum. He's mostly just being extremely aggressive and asking people for their reads, asking people to vote for certain people, and asking a few completely useless questions despite already stating that he's not going to answer any questions that are not "essential to the progression of this game". It seems like a dumb excuse to ignore questions he doesn't like.

Additionally, his insistence that he'll vig whoever hammers is incredibly antitown, in my opinion. It's basically a way to scare us all into waiting to lynch, and if someone goes for it anyway, Sunday has an excuse to say "lol well sorry I killed town but I told you I'm going to."

Also, I agree that CC's being really fucking scummy, especially his towntell on Sunday for... unvoting. The conversation with SK was actually ridiculous. No content, whatsoever.

Is nobody else seeing Emp's failogic?

So his logic is a fail because he doesn't want to lynch himself? Empking doesn't like useless roles. He happens to have gotten one. I think you're grasping at straws, jumping at Empking because now Sunday is here pushing him. Why isn't SleepyKrew dead yet? Oh, right, because Sunday thinks he's town and is holding his "vig" kill over our heads to keep us from hammering. Fantastic.

[SleepyKrew]

If you think I'm scum, you shouldn't be scared of hammering.