Mini 1179: Paranoia Mafia

Umbrage · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:12 am

CooLDoG wrote:Is this not mylo?

vote: glass
Blatantly ignoring the LLD wagon.

AHFIAOSHVLJKSNADIGOPHSIODCSNHVGUIOWAHRMKLMOAWIP;AD

SERIAL KILLERS DO NOT HAVE RELATIONAL TELLS.

Umbrage · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:20 am

Alright. I'm calm now.

There is NO FUCKING WAY that Hiraki got both the SK and Mafia kills. I'm sticking to my guns on this one. There were so many better targets.

I'm left to believe that LLD was not an SK at the beginning of the game. Which means, it was likely her 'Snapped' status that made her into one.

I know what you're thinking: why wasn't IS an SK then? The only answer must be that there is some sort of Psychologist role that either protected him beforehand or targeted him last night.

We also apparently have a Mafia Strongman in our midst. Oh, goody.

I'm thinking we massclaim now. Obviously, some really complex mechanics led us to this point. I don't think scum can lie their way out of it.

Glass · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:22 am

Umbrage, LLD said that having snapped status does not change your wincon, and I doubt she would have faked having a post restriction the whole time if she was town.

My thoughts as to why there was one kill is most likely because either the mafia or SK did not have a kill yet, I am inclined to believe that LLD killed hiraki because at the end of day one everybody was calm except for LLD and confirmed town.

The odds of this being mylo are too great for me to want to lynch right now. Massclaim tomorrow
VOTE: no lynch

vezokpiraka · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:12 am

This can't be Mylo.

We lynched correctly one day.
We should have another mislynch at hand.

Glass shoots up the scum list for saying no lynch and wins a

vote glass

Glass · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:32 am

So you are saying with absolute certainty that we are not in mylo because we only had one mislynch? Please see enclosed
Ipod Mafia
Town was in lylo and only had 1 mislynch.

Umbrage · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:38 am

I guess there could be 3 Mafia, but if one of them is a strongman, this is really unbalanced since the only town PRs we've seen are a couple one-shot jailkeepers. Since another strongman SK doesn't make sense, I'm going under the assumption that we are looking at a 2 man scumteam, either goon and RB or goon and SM.

Besides, another town flip won't help us. We don't need flips, we need a full day of solid scumhunting. This means NO MORE LURKING.

CooLDoG · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:50 am

Claim: VT. Except for the vote block and JK.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:40 am

Yeah I'm VT although I didn't get any fancy stuff.

LobsterCatapult · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:06 am

Umbrage wrote:Alright. I'm calm now.

There is NO FUCKING WAY that Hiraki got both the SK and Mafia kills. I'm sticking to my guns on this one. There were so many better targets.

I'm left to believe that LLD was not an SK at the beginning of the game. Which means, it was likely her 'Snapped' status that made her into one.

I know what you're thinking: why wasn't IS an SK then? The only answer must be that there is some sort of Psychologist role that either protected him beforehand or targeted him last night.

We also apparently have a Mafia Strongman in our midst. Oh, goody.

I'm thinking we massclaim now. Obviously, some really complex mechanics led us to this point. I don't think scum can lie their way out of it.

i agree with some of what umbrage was saying and glass. if you look at the flavor flip for both hiraki and IS, neither was killed in a specific way indicating there was anything else besides mafia. there was no "hiraki was stabbed/shot/blown up" along with IS. usually, if there was an Sk at the beginning of the game, there would be an indicator of flavor of whose kill was whose. thus, i dont think a doctor magically saved someone n1. i think that maybe someone changed LLD either during d2, or n1. i think LLD started out as town, and was either changed or acquired the gun that turned her into sk at night.

also, what is a mafia strongman?

i am still leaning scum on surye.

Umbrage · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:47 am

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Strongman

Since IS was killed with me jailkeeping him, there can only be 4 possibilities:

a) IS was killed by a strongman.
b) I was roleblocked.
c) I'm lying scum.
d) The mod is a bastard.

I think the mod said something about my JK having a chance to fail in the PM, so d) is entirely possible.

I am a VT as well. That leaves us with 3 confirmed VTs and 3 VT claims. If nobody's lying, there's no way that there's 3 scum. Town would need some heavy PRs to beat 3 mafia and an SK.

CooLDoG · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:54 am

I doubt strong man. Its sorta out there (I have never seen one. In fact I have never heard of one). I also highly doubt d. His mechanics have to have something attached to them. The only possibility I see is ether b or c. I did not jk you last night. I jked glass last night to rb him.

Glass · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:55 am

UNVOTE:

umbrage wrote:
I am a VT as well. That leaves us with 3 confirmed VTs and 3 VT claims. If nobody's lying, there's no way that there's 3 scum. Town would need some heavy PRs to beat 3 mafia and an SK.

ya, umbrage is right, even in ipod mafia the town had a ton of PRs to help them out.

Also, I claim VT.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:04 am

Im also Vt.
iPod was harsh. I think with this many vts it has to be only 2 scum unless only town get paranoia bonuses. Even then...

Glass · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:06 am

cooldog wrote:Is this not mylo?

vote: glass Blatantly ignoring the LLD wagon.

Thinking that it is mylo and then voting for somebody.

VOTE: Cooldog

Glass · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:07 am

EBWOP: Your reasoning is also weak. I ignored the wagon because I thought she was town for most of day 2. How is this scummy?

CooLDoG · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:11 am

Glass wrote:EBWOP: Your reasoning is also weak. I ignored the wagon because I thought she was town for most of day 2. How is this scummy?

For the reason that you didn't comment on it at all. You just let it take its course to a lynch. You simply didn't care about it. That is why you are scum. You simply let it do what ever it wanted not caring about what she flipped.

LobsterCatapult · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:40 pm

Umbrage wrote:http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Strongman

Since IS was killed with me jailkeeping him, there can only be 4 possibilities:

a) IS was killed by a strongman.
b) I was roleblocked.
c) I'm lying scum.
d) The mod is a bastard.

I think the mod said something about my JK having a chance to fail in the PM, so d) is entirely possible.

I am a VT as well. That leaves us with 3 confirmed VTs and 3 VT claims. If nobody's lying, there's no way that there's 3 scum. Town would need some heavy PRs to beat 3 mafia and an SK.

perhaps you yourself were jked?

im vt.

im going to go back and reread d2

Umbrage · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:56 pm

My point stands then. There's no way there are 3 mafia and an SK against all VTs.

I'm going to ISO LC, see if I still find her scummy with LLD flipping SK.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:22 pm

might as well

vote: cdogg

can we get a vote count?

Surye · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:29 pm

Are you people serious that LLD started as town? With a modconfirmed fake post restriction? What? Glass makes sense here. MYLO fears are unsubstantiated though I think. LC ignoring glass on this and not realizing LLDs restriction fake is odd. Posting from my phone from bed, more to follow in the morning.

CooLDoG · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:06 am

^exactly.

Glass is scum that's it. Unless you guys want to lynch a lurker now.

@TA/glass, Case?

vezokpiraka · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:32 am

unvote
vote glass

He is scummier than Cdog. He shall live another day.

Umbrage · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:40 am

VOTE: vezokpiraka

I've had just about enough of this. You're sheeping onto every single wagon you see. Don't you dare try and pull the VI card either. I know your town meta and that's to stick with a wagon even if nobody else is on it. You are stubborn as town, not indecisive.

nopointinactingup · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:43 am

I'm plain vt too

CooLDoG wrote:Is this not mylo?

vote: glass
Blatantly ignoring the LLD wagon.

Why does ignoring the wagon means she's scum?

Umbrage wrote:
There is NO FUCKING WAY that ...

nopoint via Umbrage wrote:... that LLD was not an SK at the beginning of the game.

That's just beyond imagination

vezokpiraka wrote:
We lynched correctly one day.
We should have another mislynch at hand.

Wrong.

Umbrage wrote:
Besides, another town flip won't help us. We don't need flips, we need a full day of solid scumhunting. This means NO MORE LURKING.

QFF(ucking)T

CooLDoG wrote:I doubt strong man. Its sorta out there (I have never seen one. In fact I have never heard of one). I also highly doubt d. His mechanics have to have something attached to them. The only possibility I see is ether b or c.
I did not jk you last night
. I jked glass last night to rb him.

Hmm .. Insider Info?

Vezo, put your vote back on ScumDog.

Surye · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:21 am

Oh, and VT.