DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Screaming Death Clan]

Can't say I'll be returning the favor though, as I have no silo.
AND EVERYONE ELSE (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.) SHOULD KEEP THEIR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT ON THE SUBJECT.

Also look at this.

This implies HEAVILY that Socio knew he was RB'd. (He has claimed Sub, right?) This means he fired his secret nuke VERY EARLY to realize it had been blocked.

If I had a secret nuke I'd stay in the shadows until a Euroscum surfaced and blow it to hell. Not blow my load ASAP like a scumbag trying to get a free nuke.

Seeing as I now know that secret early nuke was targeted at ME, towniest Rage-town, I see this as DEFINITELY coming from Socio scum.

He's not calm or collected at all. He NEEDS to live to win this game (Euro-scum, as opposed to town who do not value their lives as much.)

As SOMEONE WHO CAN READ SOCIO, I'd bet my two shoes that he's going to flip scum at this point.

And I will laugh.

LAUGH at the scum who tried to secret nuke me and got cockblocked JUST LIKE DANA COCKBLOCKED ME LAST GAME.

Its frustrating as hell when town foils your plan, aka the whoever the Town RB is.

I would know Socio, oh I would know.

HEHAEHAEHHAHAHAHHA

[Internet Stranger]

So we shouldnt be discussion super pro townies, unless its "townies Rage-town" then?

And sod off, if people want to launch their nukes, it is within their God given American rights of sovereignty to do so. Only communists and socialist scum would try to dictate nuke launches.
If you have a nuke, do whatever the fuck you want with them, dont trust SDC, FATE, socio or any of these scumbags. Trust your country, trust your pride, trust your own freedom.

[ToastyToast]

People who should be nuked/lynched: Sociopath, 'vengofwi, HezLucky

It's too bad I'm obvtown.
What, exactly, has your contribution to the game been?

Wait. You think you're obvtown? You, who was a counter-wagon day1 and day2 for people who flipped town? BAHAHAHHAHA.
READ.

LLD and Hindu get townpoints for the code stuff. I'll try to help out, but no promises on how useful I'll be

hez, dana is still town.
MoI shouldn't get nuked even if socio flips town, socio death absolutely needed to happen today and scum would be more likely to hold onto theirs in case they got nuked and wanted to retaliate to avoid living obvtown.

Why? MoI is sitting on thin ice right now.

What are everyone's thoughts on the bussing comment? Having that revealed will likely make scum-team rethink things. In other words, we should keep in mind that scum may nuke scum/ be on scum wagon. Sociopath claiming submarine may link him to the message.

Really not liking Gamma's newfound reads. Pooky is scum? Hez and dana are town? what about there play is indicating this?

good, dana called off his nuke. Now thats worth some town points

Oh look, Ludi hopped off the regfan wagon after it started to gain support!

If either dana or Hindi is scum, the other is scum as well.

So if dana flips scum, then hindi is scum
If hindi is scum, then dana is scum
If either is town, the other is town? Or do you just not give a shit?

Okay, just to sort this out

Toogeloo is telling the truth about his claim

. Strikes me as some weird double-gambit b/w gamma and SP.

Everything SP after this moment sounds like a desperate scum. FDIFUHFURUFURH KILL SDC DJOFRFUHUDFH OMGUS DLKJFORIFHRUG DIE.....Maybe he's speaking in code. LLD, Hinduragi, can you tell me what he's going on about plz?

LLD is also scum that cracked the code imo.

what makes you come to this conclusion? The fact that it only worked for one?

Gamma is making me rethink revealing the above information.

And If I had ACTUALLY blocked Socio then why in the fuck would I claim not to when he claimed non-nuke, it's just fucking ASKING for him to claim fighter or radar or some shit and do exactly what he just pulled a second ago.

Gamma definitely wouldn't have lied about his target. Which assumes that SP is lying about something. I feel like i'm missing something tho (dam headache). also, how does it ask for socio to claim fighter/radar?

ludi-hez-regfan triple bus? there is scum somewhere in those three, and I don't think its just one. Especially given how weak their votes on each other are.

okay, i'm starting to see the angle at which LLD is coming from, but if you don't mind I would like you to pull off the nook on toogeloo until the flip. Then, if anyone else is available for teh nuking, they can do so based on the flip, or we can use it for the lynch.

Regfan's list of nuke targets gets a big EW. But, he reminded me of revengeofwi. The lack of ANY COMMENTS from a hydra means that nook is staying on.

One of {SDC,

Reg

, Toog} needs to be replaced with

Toasty

Socio on that scumlist,

Socio

.

FTFY
Actually, Socio can replace both SDC AND TOOG

SDC and IS are goodposting again. I also think SDC's whole "I know how SP plays" comes of as genuine.

[Magister Ludi]

Toasty, I was voting for gorilla, not Regfan. As far as I'm concerned, for being the lowest poster, Regfan should get a nuke.

[ToastyToast]

Toasty, I was voting for gorilla, not Regfan. As far as I'm concerned, for being the lowest poster, Regfan should get a nuke.

sorry bout that, but i think you guys as scum together makes sense for other reasons. Primarily the similar want to reduce the playing field to about 4 obvtown players.

[inHimshallibe]

@Toast: may have been a bit hasty with that, as hinduragi explained the codecracking a bit more.

[Magister Ludi]

Whats the problem to reducing the playing field to four really strong town reads?

We could be wrong? Yeah, its always possible, but I trust myself to at least reason out two or three other townies over the course of an entire game.

[ToastyToast]

Whats the problem to reducing the playing field to four really strong town reads?

We could be wrong? Yeah, its always possible, but I trust myself to at least reason out two or three other townies over the course of an entire game.

My problem with it is that you suggested yourself. And I didn't have you as a strong town read. Regfan's reasons are a bit more selfless, but he's basically trying to set EVERYTHING up, which I also have problems with. Quite simply, things change. With the toogeloo issue, hindu and SP's suspicions on me, Mina disappearing...its just not good to try to set up the entire game.

[Revenge of Wei]

My nuke is going to fire in about an hour or so. Be warned, because it could be you!

[Screaming Death Clan]

Whats the problem to reducing the playing field to four really strong town reads?

We could be wrong? Yeah, its always possible, but I trust myself to at least reason out two or three other townies over the course of an entire game.

Ok strong townreads ok fine, let's just auto-assume they're all town and bank the game on that WITHOUT A SINGLE SCUM flip?

I don't buy it.

Plus of course you throw YOURSELF in the mix with a "tehee im conftown to myself course im in there"

So NO ARMAGEDDON FOR U

[Screaming Death Clan]

So we shouldnt be discussion super pro townies, unless its "townies Rage-town" then?

And sod off, if people want to launch their nukes, it is within their God given American rights of sovereignty to do so. Only communists and socialist scum would try to dictate nuke launches.
If you have a nuke, do whatever the fuck you want with them, dont trust SDC, FATE, socio or any of these scumbags. Trust your country, trust your pride, trust your own freedom.

K let's all fire with limited information and paint the sky red.

OR

We could drop the bravado act which was fun for 1 and a half games and play WITHOUT our heads up our asses.

If you have a nuke today you fire it this game day NO QUESTIONS.

But is firing NOW more optimal than later? What will change except MORE INFORMATION?

For fucks sake IS, you're really starting to piss me off.

At least I have my glorious TOWN PM which I will get to flaunt in your face post-game that you were so fucking wrong with your ALL WHITE KNIGHT=SCUMZ bullshit.

[Revenge of Wei]

Nuke: Swift Justice

It was either you, SDC, or IS.

And SDC needs to eat a nuke or rope.

[Regfan]

Swift, my scum reads on them are independant and not reliant on the other one being correct however at the same point I'm unsure how you're so willing to state that it's imposisble for them to be partners considering the fact that Vi's intial attack towards IS/Zhero read was weak to the point that it was never likely to take of.

Gorilla, quite the opposite actually. Prior to my exam completion there was an obvious decline of content site-wide from me due to not having the energy to sit down and read through the copious amounts of content. When they ended however I attempted to devote the needed time to this game. Furthermore what pressure do you believe was placed on me that I 'turned up for' so to speak because the extent of pressure I believe that has been thrown this way is an attack due to the number of posts I've made which if I wanted to counter I would have posted my 'walls' in multipls smaller posts.

Toasty, the more nukes that occur throughout the day phase the less number of kills scum get in terms of lynches attained therefore the more kills that happen today the better odds we have of hitting mafia and winning the game. The best way to proceed in the current situation is attempting to agree on a select few individuals that everyone is content to have in the end game and nuking everyone else.

[SocioPath]

One of {SDC, Reg, Toog} needs to be replaced with Toasty on that scumlist, Socio.

Its Toog, most likely.
But you are actually correct here now.

Toasty just confirmed himself to me.

With this:

SDC and IS are goodposting again.

I also think SDC's whole "I know how SP plays" comes of as genuine.

Let us repeat that for a few times as to not miss it:

I also think SDC's whole "I know how SP plays" comes of as genuine.

I also think SDC's whole "I know how SP plays" comes of as genuine.

I also think SDC's whole "I know how SP plays" comes of as genuine.

The Silent Death Death is the genuine one.
Glad to know that between SDC and SP, that SDC is the genuine one.
Let us let that sink in...
Sink in yet?

For the uninitiated, of every game I've ever played with FATE, when it comes down to it, pretty much every person ever sides with SP.
Why is this?
Because SP is of unprecedented caliber.
Because you can't get more genuine than a SocioPath.
Where as FATE always comes across ass halfassed when compared to me.
And people see this.
Why?
Because I Am The Alpha And the Omega.
They are the student, and I am the master.

Anyone new, such as Toasty, coming it, and seeing the our posts, and goes 'one is superobvtown, the other is flailing scum' and then sides the way he does?
That is not natural.
Regfan is guilty of the exact same thing.

And for more meta fun, when FATE or RECK -IS- in a game with me, and they are town, they are way less PARANOID.
They both -love- working with me.
Not against me.
And given the chance at greatness, FATE would RISK a town read of me, if it meant we could team up and take out the whole town.
Nothing would fuel his ego more, as well.
As it stands? He is trying to pin shit on me post NOOK IN MY FACE. Essentially kicking me while I am down.
Why? Because he isn't concerned with GOING OUT WITH STYLE, CATCHING ALL THE SCUMS AND BEING NK'D FOR ALL THE GLORY.
He is concerned with ONE-UPPING SP, FINALLY BEATING HIM WHEN THE ROLES ARE REVERSED.
SHOVE HIM OUT NOW AND RULE THE TOWN.
This isn't how townFATE not townRECK operates.

Fun fact: SCREAMING DEATH CLAN was a hydra made based for the joining of this game, but was meant to include FATE, RECK...AND SPYREX...AND SOCIOPATH.
But due to some logistical miscommunication, that didn't happen, and so the hydra was just FATE/RECK, and SOCIOPATH and SPYREX were 3 spots.
Which you may think, 'oh hey! with 3 times as many slots, that COLLECTIVE HIVEMIND WOULD DESTROY WHATEVER THEY PUT THEIR MINDS TO.'
And TOWNFATE would be ALL. OVER. THAT.



And so, to think Toasty is reading SDC as GENUINE in 'their' style, and NOT SOCIOPATH, well, SOMEONE MISSED THE FUCKING MEMO.

[ToastyToast]

SDC has said more in his limited posting than you have with your active posting. Your blowin hot air, what he's saying is genuine/legitimate.

[SocioPath]

WHAT HAS HE SAID?
DO TELL.

AND BY HE I MEAN FATE.
BECAUSE RECK IS STILL UNCHARACTERISTICALLY ABSENT.

[SocioPath]

Can't say I'll be returning the favor though, as I have no silo.
AND EVERYONE ELSE (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.) SHOULD KEEP THEIR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT ON THE SUBJECT.

Also look at this.

This implies HEAVILY that Socio knew he was RB'd. (He has claimed Sub, right?) This means he fired his secret nuke VERY EARLY to realize it had been blocked.

Actually, what I was heavily implying was I had a Sub.
I said I had no silo.
ANYONE whom has ever played DEFCON with me knows I go for NOOKS NOOKS NOOKS, and that means my list contains SUBS SUBS SUBS, cause either I get a SUB, or default to NOOK.
So those that knew that if I didn't have a SILO, was because I had a SUB, that those shouldn't blurt that out.

Just like in the other DEFCON games, WHICH YOU WERE IN, YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR NOOKS GET RB'd UNTIL YOU TRY AND LAUNCH ONE.
And there is no delay mechanic on SUBS.
This game is real time.
When it is sent in, is when it fires off.
So you can read from the postings, and when AGM is in the thread throwing out the notices, that the times don't match up.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Magister’s “Prove it to me with multiple points of Evidence” sthich is humerous given he doesn nothing of the sort to support his own reads.

If Socio does indeed flip scum SDC is probably a partner. This whole sudden “SDC is confirmed Scum” posting would 100% be a WIFOM smoke-screen in that case.

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I'm agreeing with the school of thought that Kats didn't aircraft Sociopath. Leaving only Gamma to possibly do that.

QFT.

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MoI shouldn't get nuked even if socio flips town, socio death absolutely needed to happen today and scum would be more likely to hold onto theirs in case they got nuked and wanted to retaliate to avoid living obvtown.

Your obvious last ditch effort to link yourself to me is noted as obv.

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I'm agreeing with the school of thought that Kats didn't aircraft Sociopath. Leaving only Gamma to possibly do that.

Which means Toog's been working his counter-intelligence.

Nuke: Toogeloo

Yeah, this is a horrible line of thought. LLD needs to glow or hang sooner rather than later.

Oooooohhhhhhhhhh.

Fuck.

Not like it makes a difference. Gamma's reaction to the sub nuke RB was scum anyway. I'm sure of it.

Teehee, I don’t even know how my own role works. That makes me Town, right?

Especially coming right on the heels of Dana getting 'Town cred' for a similar play.

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It's too bad I'm obvtown.

Weren’t you just harassing Ludi for calling himself Obvtown?

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I, on the other hand, go out of my way to be vague and cryptic with my views and suspicions in order to NOT be NK'd N1, or any other night for that matter, until it is too late.
There is only so much that you can do, as a townie, on D1.
Blowing your load on D1, and then eating a bullet N1, really isn't my style.
And this game, where the majority of the roles are what they are, are useless for a ways past D1/N1, so laying lower is generally the key here.

When it comes to crunch time is generally when I let it all hang out.

So you go out of your way to play in a scummy manner until ‘Crunch Time’ when if you are Town you ‘turn it on’? Yeah, I’m very happy with where my Nuke is heading. Because I have zero reason to see you as Town. Sorry, them’s the breaks. I’d rather have read-able players around towards endgame, even if I’m not here.

I’m really enjoying your squirming. So much for ‘Not Feeling the Pressure’, huh.

The Nuke is

NOT

getting recalled.

MoI flings off a nuke, without second thought, at a person whom hadn't even posted in the thread yet since the thread opened, and DEFCON 1 hit.

Yup. I’ve been saying you need to glow for awhile. Did you think I was kidding? You had DEFCON 3 and 2 to look even remotely Pro-Town. You failed miserably. If that’s your playstyle don’t cry to me. Don’t be Scummy McScummypants and maybe you will not eat a Nuke immediately.

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Socio's town as fuck now. He might be lurking but trust me. Scumsocio without a nuke? NOPE.

Based on the fact that Socio has claimed Sub if for some ungodly reason Socio is American then Hind is pretty much scum for the above. Claiming meta-knowledge that clears Socio as Town when Socio himself clearly indicates that he would NEVER go non-Nuke. Grasping for Town-Cred engaged.

Also, his claimed ability useage is bad.

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meh fuck it

i gotta get IS's back

nuke Gammagooey

So you didn’t wait to ‘get IS’s back’ til after his Nuke hit, just as you advocated in 1259 with me? Why is that Mr. Inconsistent?

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

MoI needs to glow when Socio flips town. And Socio WILL flip town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI needs to glow when Socio flips town. And Socio WILL flip town.

OMGUS!!!!!!

Seriously is this the best you can do?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OMGUS is a buzzword that scum uses to attack town~.

Of course, I've already advocated my concurrence that you need hot nuclear death the second Socio flips town.

So, yeah.

[Magua]

LLD, you need to recall your nuke.

[MagnaofIllusion]

OMGUS is a buzzword that scum uses to attack town~.

Of course, I've already advocated my concurrence that you need hot nuclear death the second Socio flips town.

So, yeah.

I noticed you didn't bother to dispute a word of what I mentioned.

1. That your 'logic' behind nuking Toog was scummy.
2. That your 'Oops, I didn't know my role' little play doesn't match up at all with the meticulous manner in which you approach the game as Town.

Yup, instead the minute I mention you are likely scum for that launch and surrounding facts your response is "Die".

Yeah, that's not Town at all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I find it funny that you claim to understand my meta. :3

I've explained my logic, though I admit I was a little trigger happy.

[Magua]

UNVOTE: Revenge of Wei
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta