OPEN 310 - Medical Mafia - TOWN WIN

Amrun · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:25 am

Earlier today you didn't like my tim_hill case... Sigh.

I still think tim isn't the worst lynch but that Moratorium is much better.

Quilford · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:28 am

PLEASE, AMRUN.

PLEEEASE?

Amrun · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:35 am

P sure you were voting for me up until tat point.

You suspected Moratorium. Why not him?

Quilford · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:04 am

1) I reread
2) waaaaaay more evidence against tim

AntB · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:50 am

VOTE COUNT - 6 Alive - 4 to Lynch

tim_hill1990

<- HellloooNewman - Quilford

Moratorium

<- Hoppster

Hoppster

<- Moratorium

Quilford

<- tim_hill1990

Not Voting

<- Amrun

DEADLINE

FRIDAY 8 JULY 2011 23:59:59 UTC

(expired on 2011-07-08 19:59:59) remaining.

Hoppster · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:10 am

Amrun wrote:He means I am trying to make a case that isn't there - but there isn't a good case to be made on any single player left, so that defense is meh.

Moratorium, from your absence of a correction I presume this is correct?

Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I'm actually
kinda
wondering about Quilford now, i've seen
mostly
flakey play from him.
The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it
could be
an attempt to gain town cred.
Defending me, while good for me
seems like
a similar ploy.
I also get a
kind of
coasting feel from his play, seems
very much like
trying to fade into the background, rather than become directly involved.
Mostly speculation here though.

OH MY GOD

LYNCH IT
LYNCH IT WITH
FIRE

I don't think this is a scum-tell, certainly not the extent that you seem to believe it is. I have done (probably still do) this as town - if anything, I think I'm less inclined to do this as scum.

Quilford wrote:Provided we do something stupid like not lynching scum, you all do realise that Hoppster will be NK'd, right?

Hoppster NK is better than a Newman NK.

Quilford's recent very town-looking posts make me much more confident in Moratorium's scumflip.

Quilford is no longer auto-lynch if Moratorium is not scum (which at this point I find fairly difficult to believe).

HellloooNewman · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:03 am

I'm personally not seeing the Quilford case. Can you explain it to me Tim?

Amrun · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:11 am

I totally am voting for Moratorium...

VOTE: Moratorium

tim_hill1990 · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:29 pm

Quilford wrote:In what is likely to be seen as a massive OMGUS my answer is tim_hill.

You said it man, OMGUS to the extreme, not long ago you had me as town.

-You Picked out the DK dumb lynch after he was lynched=town cred
-Picked out Jillyne as scum= bussing
-You put me as town=town cred when you thought it likely i'd be lynched
-OMGUS on me now, i've singled you out= a) you don't like it b) you know i'm right
-coasting this game= trying not to get involved: involved enough to get town cred

Quilford wrote:Not only does jilynne's play point to it but he also conveniently avoids mentioning that I had jilynne pegged as scum above.

I didn't know you had, must have been lost in the chaos of posts. This doesn't indicate anything though, in fact this pre-emptive bussing.

Quilford wrote:1) I reread
2) waaaaaay more evidence against tim

Oh so now you re-read? Even though for most of this day most of the attention was on me?
You even agreed with me on some of the points against Amrun=trying to build a lynch on a strong player you know is a threat to you. Yet another point..

Quilford · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:35 pm

THAT'S RIGHT TIM

DON'T REBUT THE ACTUAL CASE

I'LL PICK APART THE REST OF YOUR TERRIBAD POST LATER

tim_hill1990 · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:34 pm

Quilford wrote:DON'T REBUT THE ACTUAL CASE

Why would I, you haven't provided anything new

Haha, you are so flailing scum right now, what with the awesome rampant posting with stuff on me right after i'd voted for you.

Amrun wrote:Earlier today you didn't like my tim_hill case... Sigh.

Exactly.

Amrun and Hoppster can you please rephrase the case on Moratorium? Where was the scumslip?

Quilford · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:04 pm

Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I have no read on Jilynne.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Jillyne> Same as Iceguy, not much of a read> null

HMMMMM

tim_hill1990 wrote:Quilford> Picked out the DK mislynch early, so this renders him town imo, could be scum trying to gain town cred on a dumb lynch but it didn't seem that way to me.

tim_hill1990 wrote:The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it could be an attempt to gain town cred.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

tim_hill1990 wrote:I would agree that the last scum is most likely to be either Quilford or Moratorium

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> I get a town read

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> Active player with some good insight> leaning town

tim_hill1990 wrote:- Other option I would consider is Quilford, but I just get a gut townie read from him more than anything.

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tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun, well I guess I didn't like how she approached the case on me, particularly the attempt to get a quicklynch, but the rest of her play indicates active town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun> leaning scum

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jilynne1991 wrote:Tim_hill is null for me,

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch.

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jilynne1991 wrote:I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

jilynne1991 wrote:You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Isn't Jilly new to this game? In which case how can you truly get an accurate read from her meta?
What someone does in one game isn't indicative of what they do all the time. I'm relatively new and i've changed my way of playing many times, different strategies and game plans etc...

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it's a friggin' goldmine in here

Kindly point to which one of these does not make you scum and explain why.

Quilford · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Amrun wrote:Earlier today you didn't like my tim_hill case... Sigh.

Earlier today I suspected you. That's why.

Quilford · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:07 pm

tim_hill1990 wrote:Haha, you are so flailing scum right now, what with the awesome rampant posting with stuff on me right after i'd voted for you.

I cloned Fate and made him write the rest of this post

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IS THE POSTING OF STUFF ON YOU VALID

CHEEKY FUCKIN SCUM

ahAHHEehahAHA

tim_hill1990 · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:26 pm

Quilford wrote:
Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I have no read on Jilynne.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Jillyne> Same as Iceguy, not much of a read> null

HMMMMM

I had no read on her, hell I had hardly any read on anyone

tim_hill1990 wrote:Quilford> Picked out the DK mislynch early, so this renders him town imo, could be scum trying to gain town cred on a dumb lynch but it didn't seem that way to me.

tim_hill1990 wrote:The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it could be an attempt to gain town cred.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

How does this indict me as scum?

tim_hill1990 wrote:I would agree that the last scum is most likely to be either Quilford or Moratorium

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> I get a town read

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> Active player with some good insight> leaning town

tim_hill1990 wrote:- Other option I would consider is Quilford, but I just get a gut townie read from him more than anything.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Are these taken out of context? I don't consider HN, Hoppster or Amrun to be scum, I think they are all town. This leaves you two. At the time of these posts I didn't really consider either of you two scum

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun, well I guess I didn't like how she approached the case on me, particularly the attempt to get a quicklynch, but the rest of her play indicates active town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun> leaning scum

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Taken out of context, man this is so an attempt to discredit me.

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim_hill is null for me,

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch.

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Town cred

jilynne1991 wrote:I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

jilynne1991 wrote:You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Isn't Jilly new to this game? In which case how can you truly get an accurate read from her meta?
What someone does in one game isn't indicative of what they do all the time. I'm relatively new and i've changed my way of playing many times, different strategies and game plans etc...

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Well what I said is true.

it's a friggin' goldmine in here

Kindly point to which one of these does not make you scum and explain why.

Quilford wrote:
Earlier today I suspected you. That's why.

Bollocks, you had no intention of voting for me.

Quilford · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:57 pm

tim_hill1990 wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I have no read on Jilynne.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Jillyne> Same as Iceguy, not much of a read> null

HMMMMM

I had no read on her, hell I had hardly any read on anyone

Scum typically have null reads on their partners at early stages in the game. Also the latter half of that sentence is false.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Quilford> Picked out the DK mislynch early, so this renders him town imo, could be scum trying to gain town cred on a dumb lynch but it didn't seem that way to me.

tim_hill1990 wrote:The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it could be an attempt to gain town cred.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

How does this indict me as scum?

You go from 'to me it doesn't seem like Quilford picking out the DK mislynch early is scummy, in fact it renders him town' to 'OH HE PICKED OUT THE DK MISLYNCH HE'S SCUM TRYING TO GAIN TOWN CRED'. ie OBVIOUS FUCKING CONTRADICTION

tim_hill1990 wrote:I would agree that the last scum is most likely to be either Quilford or Moratorium

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> I get a town read

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> Active player with some good insight> leaning town

tim_hill1990 wrote:- Other option I would consider is Quilford, but I just get a gut townie read from him more than anything.

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Are these taken out of context? I don't consider HN, Hoppster or Amrun to be scum, I think they are all town. This leaves you two. At the time of these posts I didn't really consider either of you two scum

In the post where you voted me you said that the last scum was likely to be me or Moratorium. In the posts prior to that in which you had stated reads, you put Moratorium and I as town. Between those posts you had said NOTHING about either of those reads changing. Plus the reasons that you did list in the post in which you voted me contradict with your earlier statements.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun, well I guess I didn't like how she approached the case on me, particularly the attempt to get a quicklynch, but the rest of her play indicates active town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun> leaning scum

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Taken out of context, man this is so an attempt to discredit me.

Again there was literally nothing between these posts showing that you had changed your stance on Amrun; explain how it was taken out of context (yes I am requesting you do this) before you go cry about how it was 'an attempt to discredit you' (bullshit).

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim_hill is null for me,

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch.

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Town cred

What does that comment even mean? What's obvious here is that jilynne didn't jump onto your bandwagon nearly as readily as she jumped onto DeityKabuto's. Also she vaguely mentions a 'bad feeling' about you (ie trying to gain town cred when you flip scum) and then says she didn't understand any of the reasoning (blanket statement) instead of pointing out specifically why she didn't understand it.

jilynne1991 wrote:I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

jilynne1991 wrote:You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Isn't Jilly new to this game? In which case how can you truly get an accurate read from her meta?
What someone does in one game isn't indicative of what they do all the time. I'm relatively new and i've changed my way of playing many times, different strategies and game plans etc...

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Well what I said is true.

The point here is that Jilynne said that meta wasn't really useful when analysing her play. Later, she flipped scum. Today, you asked how it was possible to use Jilynne's meta usefully. You are using the same excuse that she did; you will flip scum.

it's a friggin' goldmine in here

Kindly point to which one of these does not make you scum and explain why.

Quilford wrote:
Earlier today I suspected you. That's why.

Bollocks, you had no intention of voting for me.

Kindly learn to read, the quote before that was something that Amrun had said about me not buying her case. Therefore I was talking to Amrun, not you.

Replies in bold.

tim_hill1990 · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:27 pm

Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I have no read on Jilynne.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Jillyne> Same as Iceguy, not much of a read> null

HMMMMM

I had no read on her, hell I had hardly any read on anyone

Scum typically have null reads on their partners at early stages in the game. Also the latter half of that sentence is false.

I gave reads, most of them had no real substance behind them though, mostly speculation

tim_hill1990 wrote:Quilford> Picked out the DK mislynch early, so this renders him town imo, could be scum trying to gain town cred on a dumb lynch but it didn't seem that way to me.

tim_hill1990 wrote:The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it could be an attempt to gain town cred.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

How does this indict me as scum?

You go from 'to me it doesn't seem like Quilford picking out the DK mislynch early is scummy, in fact it renders him town' to 'OH HE PICKED OUT THE DK MISLYNCH HE'S SCUM TRYING TO GAIN TOWN CRED'. ie OBVIOUS FUCKING CONTRADICTION

Except if wasn't a contradiction because I said "it could be scum trying to gain town cred but it doesn't seem that way", I thought about it some more and came to a different conclusion. This was after you coasted day two.

tim_hill1990 wrote:I would agree that the last scum is most likely to be either Quilford or Moratorium

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> I get a town read

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> Active player with some good insight> leaning town

tim_hill1990 wrote:- Other option I would consider is Quilford, but I just get a gut townie read from him more than anything.

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Are these taken out of context? I don't consider HN, Hoppster or Amrun to be scum, I think they are all town. This leaves you two. At the time of these posts I didn't really consider either of you two scum

In the post where you voted me you said that the last scum was likely to be me or Moratorium. In the posts prior to that in which you had stated reads, you put Moratorium and I as town. Between those posts you had said NOTHING about either of those reads changing. Plus the reasons that you did list in the post in which you voted me contradict with your earlier statements.

that's true but I also had previously mentioned that I didn't think Hoppster or Hn were scum. I also made my mind up on Amrun, that she was highly likely to not be scum. This leaves you two. You had points which could be read as scummy or town, initially I felt town but after review decide town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun, well I guess I didn't like how she approached the case on me, particularly the attempt to get a quicklynch, but the rest of her play indicates active town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun> leaning scum

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Taken out of context, man this is so an attempt to discredit me.

Again there was literally nothing between these posts showing that you had changed your stance on Amrun; explain how it was taken out of context (yes I am requesting you do this) before you go cry about how it was 'an attempt to discredit you' (bullshit).

You've got both these quotes round the wrong way, the top one came after the bottom one. The way you've aligned them makes it look like I was being contradictory. Also there is large gap between these posts, things change, so has my opinion.

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim_hill is null for me,

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch.

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Town cred

What does that comment even mean? What's obvious here is that jilynne didn't jump onto your bandwagon nearly as readily as she jumped onto DeityKabuto's. Also she vaguely mentions a 'bad feeling' about you (ie trying to gain town cred when you flip scum) and then says she didn't understand any of the reasoning (blanket statement) instead of pointing out specifically why she didn't understand it.

She knew it was likely either me or DK going to be lynched. She also knew that if she looked like she didn't support my lynch that would make her look better. Also check out post 332 for an example of where I noticed Jillyne's rolefishing ploy, not something scum would ordinarily point out

jilynne1991 wrote:I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

jilynne1991 wrote:You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Isn't Jilly new to this game? In which case how can you truly get an accurate read from her meta?
What someone does in one game isn't indicative of what they do all the time. I'm relatively new and i've changed my way of playing many times, different strategies and game plans etc...

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Well what I said is true.

The point here is that Jilynne said that meta wasn't really useful when analysing her play. Later, she flipped scum. Today, you asked how it was possible to use Jilynne's meta usefully. You are using the same excuse that she did; you will flip scum.

Sure, but that's me arguing theory and not the outcome. Jillyne turned up dead by sheer luck, had nothing to do with meta analysis. I was arguing the theory because Amrun was using it on me, meta use being something I don't agree with.

it's a friggin' goldmine in here

Kindly point to which one of these does not make you scum and explain why.

Quilford wrote:
Earlier today I suspected you. That's why.

Bollocks, you had no intention of voting for me.

Kindly learn to read, the quote before that was something that Amrun had said about me not buying her case. Therefore I was talking to Amrun, not you.

fair enough, no need to be rude.

Replies in bold.

tim_hill1990 · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:29 pm

tim_hill1990 wrote:that's true but I also had previously mentioned that I didn't think Hoppster or Hn were scum. I also made my mind up on Amrun, that she was highly likely to not be scum. This leaves you two. You had points which could be read as scummy or town,
initially I felt town but after review decide town
.

Oops that's meant to be "after review decided scum"

Quilford · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:43 pm

tim_hill1990 wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Quilford wrote:
tim_hill1990 wrote:I have no read on Jilynne.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Jillyne> Same as Iceguy, not much of a read> null

HMMMMM

I had no read on her, hell I had hardly any read on anyone

Scum typically have null reads on their partners at early stages in the game. Also the latter half of that sentence is false.

I gave reads, most of them had no real substance behind them though, mostly speculation

You've used the 'speculation' excuse twice now.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Quilford> Picked out the DK mislynch early, so this renders him town imo, could be scum trying to gain town cred on a dumb lynch but it didn't seem that way to me.

tim_hill1990 wrote:The main thing that stands out for me is his defence of DK after the lynch, seems like it could be an attempt to gain town cred.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

How does this indict me as scum?

You go from 'to me it doesn't seem like Quilford picking out the DK mislynch early is scummy, in fact it renders him town' to 'OH HE PICKED OUT THE DK MISLYNCH HE'S SCUM TRYING TO GAIN TOWN CRED'. ie OBVIOUS FUCKING CONTRADICTION

Except if wasn't a contradiction because I said "it could be scum trying to gain town cred but it doesn't seem that way", I thought about it some more and came to a different conclusion. This was after you coasted day two.

If you had thought about it some more you would've said that you had thought about it some more in the actual post. Bullshit. Also, what made you 'come to a different conclusion'? Also, show that I coasted with quotes, etc. because I think that's just a buzzword you're throwing around.

tim_hill1990 wrote:I would agree that the last scum is most likely to be either Quilford or Moratorium

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> I get a town read

tim_hill1990 wrote:Moratorium> Active player with some good insight> leaning town

tim_hill1990 wrote:- Other option I would consider is Quilford, but I just get a gut townie read from him more than anything.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Are these taken out of context? I don't consider HN, Hoppster or Amrun to be scum, I think they are all town. This leaves you two. At the time of these posts I didn't really consider either of you two scum

In the post where you voted me you said that the last scum was likely to be me or Moratorium. In the posts prior to that in which you had stated reads, you put Moratorium and I as town. Between those posts you had said NOTHING about either of those reads changing. Plus the reasons that you did list in the post in which you voted me contradict with your earlier statements.

that's true but I also had previously mentioned that I didn't think Hoppster or Hn were scum. I also made my mind up on Amrun, that she was highly likely to not be scum. This leaves you two.
You had points which could be read as scummy or town
, initially I felt town but after review decide town.

If you had thought about it some more you would've said that you had thought about it some more in the actual post. Bullshit. Also, what made you come to a different conclusion? Also, what are these points you talk about (underlined)? Quote them and explain.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun, well I guess I didn't like how she approached the case on me, particularly the attempt to get a quicklynch, but the rest of her play indicates active town.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Amrun> leaning scum

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Taken out of context, man this is so an attempt to discredit me.

Again there was literally nothing between these posts showing that you had changed your stance on Amrun; explain how it was taken out of context (yes I am requesting you do this) before you go cry about how it was 'an attempt to discredit you' (bullshit).

You've got both these quotes round the wrong way, the top one came after the bottom one. The way you've aligned them makes it look like I was being contradictory. Also there is large gap between these posts, things change, so has my opinion.

It's contradictory regardless. If you had thought about it some more you would've said that you had thought about it some more in the actual post. Bullshit. Also, what made you come to a different conclusion? (that's the third time I've c/p'd that)

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim_hill is null for me,

jilynne1991 wrote:Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch.

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Town cred

What does that comment even mean? What's obvious here is that jilynne didn't jump onto your bandwagon nearly as readily as she jumped onto DeityKabuto's. Also she vaguely mentions a 'bad feeling' about you (ie trying to gain town cred when you flip scum) and then says she didn't understand any of the reasoning (blanket statement) instead of pointing out specifically why she didn't understand it.

She knew it was likely either me or DK going to be lynched. She also knew that if she looked like she didn't support my lynch that would make her look better. Also check out post 332 for an example of where I noticed Jillyne's rolefishing ploy, not something scum would ordinarily point out

I'll check out post 332 later. She jumped onto DK's bandwagon with practically no reason; why didn't she jump onto yours?

jilynne1991 wrote:I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

jilynne1991 wrote:You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

tim_hill1990 wrote:Isn't Jilly new to this game? In which case how can you truly get an accurate read from her meta?
What someone does in one game isn't indicative of what they do all the time. I'm relatively new and i've changed my way of playing many times, different strategies and game plans etc...

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Well what I said is true.

The point here is that Jilynne said that meta wasn't really useful when analysing her play. Later, she flipped scum. Today, you asked how it was possible to use Jilynne's meta usefully. You are using the same excuse that she did; you will flip scum.

Sure, but that's me arguing theory and not the outcome. Jillyne turned up dead by sheer luck, had nothing to do with meta analysis. I was arguing the theory because Amrun was using it on me, meta use being something I don't agree with.

Why did you not state you didn't agree with meta use when Amrun was using it on jilynne? My point is that she said her meta wasn't useful to wriggle out of suspicion, I see you doing the same thing here. She flipped scum.

it's a friggin' goldmine in here

Kindly point to which one of these does not make you scum and explain why.

Quilford wrote:
Earlier today I suspected you. That's why.

Bollocks, you had no intention of voting for me.

Kindly learn to read, the quote before that was something that Amrun had said about me not buying her case. Therefore I was talking to Amrun, not you.

fair enough, no need to be rude.

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Quilford · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:45 pm

tim_hill1990 wrote:
jilynne1991 wrote:
What I also see is that, roleclaiming nurse doesn't hurt you. Scum has no more reason to kill you than anyone else. What do you guys think of this?

Rolefishing anyone?

How is this rolefishing.

Amrun · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:41 am

V/La for an indefinite period of time. My father had a heart attack. I will probably post a little, or maybe even a lot, depending on how much distraction I want, but I may disappear for a couple of days and wanted to make everyone aware.

Hoppster · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:15 am

Shit, Amrun, that's terrible. Thanks for letting us know, I guess. My thoughts are with you and your family.

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Oh, man, walls.

Quote walls.

Quote wall wars.

Intra-quote wall wars.

Intra-quote multi-format wall wars.

This is going to take some reading.

tim_hill's "LOL QUILFORD WHY U FLAIL" looked just like the kind of scum-flail post that he'd earned mega-townpoints earlier for avoiding.

Having super-skimmed the walls however, he does have a point in that Quilford's manipulation of the chronology of the posts (well at least in the one example I looked at) does make him (tim_hill) look worse than he would otherwise.

Moratorium still my preferred lynch.

Case:

Meh. Nothing paticularly substantial, however, bad gut feeling about him all game.

He's also notably the only player who hasn't, at some point or other, impressed me with his towniness. All other players alive have had phases where I've looked at their posts and thought "Wow, this is awesomely town" - not necessarily consistently, but it has happened. Not with Moratorium.

I've got a couple of non-gut points which I'll get up tomorrow.

AntB · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:36 am

VOTE COUNT - 6 Alive - 4 to Lynch

tim_hill1990

<- HellloooNewman - Quilford

Moratorium

<- Hoppster - Amrun

Hoppster

<- Moratorium

Quilford

<- tim_hill1990

V/LA

-> Amrun (Indefinite)

I hope you dad and a quick recovery and I wish you and your family the bext, Amrun. Take as long as you need.

DEADLINE

FRIDAY 8 JULY 2011 23:59:59 UTC

(expired on 2011-07-08 19:59:59) remaining.

HellloooNewman · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:03 am

Unvote/Vote Moratorium

Moratorium · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:35 am

I'm L-1, so I'll just throw down my two cents:

It's a mislynch, so I'd advise that everyone ISO me and evaluate why it is you are voting for me and compare that sentiment to your feelings on the other players in the game. Other than that, I think i've laid myself out pretty openly, and feel that I'm being persecuted for normal townie activity.

If I do get lynched, and there's a nightkill, please remember that tomorrow is likely LYLO or close to it barring some surprise doctor save.