ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[AlmasterGM]

Damnit AGM/ HINDU!!

DO YOU TWO ONLY ALWAYS VOTE YOUR TOP SUSPECT... OR DO YOU VOTE YOUR SECOND IF THE LYNCH SEEMS MORE VIABLE?!?!?

the latter obviously what the fuck kind of question is this

[AlmasterGM]

wasn't there just a GIANT ASS MD thread about how the latter is always better?

[Benmage]

Damnit AGM/ HINDU!!

DO YOU TWO ONLY ALWAYS VOTE YOUR TOP SUSPECT... OR DO YOU VOTE YOUR SECOND IF THE LYNCH SEEMS MORE VIABLE?!?!?

the latter obviously what the fuck kind of question is this

Maguas a dumbass.. what do you want from me.

wasn't there just a GIANT ASS MD thread about how the latter is always better?

Yeah there was... so why don't you help shed some light on our village dunce.. so we can do something.

[Benmage]

Also, what do you think Cow is stalling? Where is the strategic value in him stalling? Drawing more suspicion?

[Magua]

Because you flat out said that I was scummier than hasdgfas, whereas Hinduragi and DGB have both just said that we're both scum.

And bullshit if "1% difference" is the cause of "in this case.. i guess Cow. (Tho i think at this moment I'd prefer Magua)"

I say I preferred you over Cow. I never say Cows not scummy. And my example is to illustrate that clearly I found the difference between you and cows scumminess negligible. I don’t understand how this concept is hard for you to understand… It is one of the most basic.

Oh, no. I get what you're saying. But it's the difference between you saying "hasdgfas and Magua are both scummy, Vote: hasdgfas" and "hasdgfas and Magua are both scummy, I'd prefer Magua, Vote: hasdgfas". Similarly, there's the difference between "Settling for a second best scum read when you can't get the first lynched" and "Settling for the second best scum read when you can get the first lynched".

Yelling at me isn't going to change the fact that I find this incredibly scummy and I'm voting you for it. Likewise, calling me a fucking retard isn't going to convince me, but, trust me, I appreciate the ad hominem on a fundamental level.

I WOULD LOVE IT IF EVERYONE WEIGHS IN AND TELLS MAGUA HE IS A FUCKING RETARD.

Everyone in their next post say how you in EVERYGAME do not always vote your top suspect.

I am literally dumbfounded that you are pursuing this.

Now, then. Do you think I'm pursuing it because I'm a fucking retard, or do you think I'm pursuing it because I'm scum?

Also, this is me not listing three people I would pick as CR. Same "am I a fucking retard/am I scum" question can be applied.

[Benmage]

Also, this is me not listing three people I would pick as CR. Same "am I a fucking retard/am I scum" question can be applied.

This is me policy voting you. Or omgus-ing if you want.. spell it out. Thats how I feel.

unvote vote Magua

Look at the quote again boss. Tho.... I....

THINK

... I prefer... WHERE is the concrete you're 100% scum Cow isn't anywhere nearly as scummy..

[AlmasterGM]

Also, what do you think Cow is stalling? Where is the strategic value in him stalling? Drawing more suspicion?

as i've stated before, it's my opinion that (mostly because this is a cult game) that scum are intentionally not bussing. They think they can get away with it, and by doing so, they make it insanely harder for town to get lynches.

afa cow specifically goes, he's at that point where anything he says will probably just be construed as scummy anyway by his attackers, so it's probably a better strategic move from him as scum to just shut up, hope the town can't mobilize a lynch on him, and wait for his buddies to bail him out.

And there's really no point in arguing with Magua. Just lynch him, he is le scum.

[Benmage]

I would also love to hear the logical scum mindset in saying Vote XXX, I prefer YYY..... Why add the I prefer??? What is gained by adding the YYY..

Seriously... Everyone take out your pencils for this lesson.

If you're town. And you don't

understand

someones actions. Pretend for second you're scum. And ask yourself if thats how you would act. (Ideally we are acting logically here)... If the answer is hell fucking no. Odds are the person isn't acting that way because they're scum.

[Magua]

This is me policy voting you. Or omgus-ing if you want.. spell it out. Thats how I feel.

Do you think I'm a fucking retard, or do you think I'm scum?

I would also love to hear the logical scum mindset in saying Vote XXX, I prefer YYY..... Why add the I prefer??? What is gained by adding the YYY..

Scum votes XXX, XXX flips town, scum can then say, "Whelp, should've lynched YYY." I literally cannot believe that you cannot see the scum benefit in doing this.

[Benmage]

I would also love to hear the logical scum mindset in saying Vote XXX, I prefer YYY..... Why add the I prefer??? What is gained by adding the YYY..

Scum votes XXX, XXX flips town, scum can then say, "Whelp, should've lynched YYY." I literally cannot believe that you cannot see the scum benefit in doing this.

LOL.. So everytime someone has a scum list they're scum setting up mislynches!!!Listen to this bahahahahhaha.. ROFL.

[Benmage]

This is me policy voting you. Or omgus-ing if you want.. spell it out. Thats how I feel.

Do you think I'm a fucking retard, or do you think I'm scum?

Well you've proved the first true. You've been a wishy washy read that is incomplete... As my reread is incomplete. But I'd lose no sleep lynching your ass.

In fact I can only see it benefiting the town.. regardless of how you flip.

[Benmage]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE.

That Maguas logic just got broken down into making a scum list = scum setting up mislynched.. godddamn!!

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh yes.

Since Porochaz was recruited, we know that at least one recruiter isn't jockeying for quality on his team.

[Empking]

Oh yes.

Since Porochaz was recruited, we know that at least one recruiter isn't jockeying for quality on his team.

Wrong game?

[Benmage]

U2. 3 people you'd recruit if Cult.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ooooooooooooopsy

[Lost Butterfly]

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Oh, let's lynch cow. Magua and Benmage are both probably town I think.

[Hinduragi]

Damnit AGM/ HINDU!!

DO YOU TWO ONLY ALWAYS VOTE YOUR TOP SUSPECT... OR DO YOU VOTE YOUR SECOND IF THE LYNCH SEEMS MORE VIABLE?!?!?

AGM is right. Shit question. I know you're doing it to prove a point, but still. Second if the lynch seems more viable, everytime. Unless, you've got something like a cop on the first one, but come on, that's mafia 101.

CR Recruits?
-Cyber. His play does not match up at all to yesterday and there's some kind of fake way in which he points out the Esp lurking that I didn't like. That's why I want him to sign his posts.
-Nexus. Former townread and plenty of lurking makes a good survivalist. I liked his response to my lurking question.
-Empking/Locke. No reason really, except they've been coasting.

Also, what do you think Cow is stalling? Where is the strategic value in him stalling?

....Really? This is worse than the last question. He's the top lynch candidate and there are competing wagons that could possibly out-drive his.

Since Porochaz was recruited, we know that at least one recruiter isn't jockeying for quality on his team.

DGB handles cults all day long and doesn't afraid of anything.

Magua, Faraday? Elaborate.

[Benmage]

Hindu

Who is your top 3 scum?

[Benmage]

ooba changed his avatar


Oh, let's lynch cow. Magua and Benmage are both probably town I think.

Whose your top 3 scum?

[Benmage]

Hindu

You misunderstood my question. The question is who would YOUUUU want to cult recruit if you were the CR. And why.

LB you need to answer this too.

[Benmage]

Also, what do you think Cow is stalling? Where is the strategic value in him stalling?

....Really? This is worse than the last question. He's the top lynch candidate and there are competing wagons that could possibly out-drive his.

I think him coming in and acting protown i.e. voting someone for a viable/logical reason... Defending himself a bit, etc etc would be better for him if he was scum... Rather than him not participating as that would in my mind, only strengthen the suspicion surrounding him.

[Lost Butterfly]

agm, empking and you, ben. cult needs recruits and presumably can't recruit scum + you've all a decent chance of making it quite a while in the game.

these are just my personal choices admittedly, not lost butterfly's.

[Thor665]

Let's play a game.

Everyone

ought to list the 3 people they, if the CR would seek to recruit.

List 3 please... a bullet as to why would be much appreciated.

I like AGM's answer - definitely I'd be aiming at people who are town looking survivors, but not so town looking as to draw Mafia targets.

You'd be on the list if I hadn't been pushing you so much, because easing off of you subtly would be a pain - but everyone's 'Benmage is town while doing nothing' read is perfect cult universe.
Emp would be a top call - everyone called him obv. town Day 1 but he's barely around now.
LMP would be a good choice too - active, not omg active, no apparent suspicion on him.
I would have done LB if I thought I could be on a definite team with Mina, but Faraday is boring compared to her, so I'd avoid that one

It's like "trololol let's go after Benmage cause he's not doing anything"

WELL WHAT ABOUT LOCKE OR ESPEONAGE THEN, HMMM?

I've agreed to get on Espeo if Benny can't happen, and I've cited Locke as a townread.
Are you saying we should go after Locke and Espeo - or are they just as townie as you called Benmage?

[Empking]

If I was cult, I'd recruit: LMP, Nexus or Hindu.