Mini 1176: Dexter Season 2 (Game Over) Who Won?

[Amrun]

Guys.

I have another reason for

wanting socio to go before hindu

in this situation.

Besides that, Hindu's play is consistent with his result.

If Socio turns up town, Amrun just claimed scum. "Go before" suggests Hindu would go next. But Hindu would only go next if Socio were town and Amrun would know/think this as scum.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

It doesn't actually imply that at all.

Also "food for thught" is scummy as hell. Accuse me or don't.

What I meant is we are obviously lynching one of them today; I preferred it to be Socio.

But now I am confused with the nameclaim.

[SocioPath]

VBP just claimed scum?
Is that so?

[Amrun]

No.

[VP Baltar]

VBP just claimed scum?
Is that so?

No.

However, if you're town you'd either a) have a recruiting ability b) would have immediately claimed your vanillaness and outted confirmed scum Kise. You did neither of these things and yet you claim you have nothing to explain. I's confused.

[SocioPath]

I know that dexter and his wife rita are real roles here - not fakeclaims.

I also have more to my role, but for the sake of keeping my options option, I don't want to actively find Dexter or Rita and join town in case you guys suck. I'm thinking the mod's idea behind my role is that I can instantly lose as survivor, unless

I put forth the effort to join town via my action.

[VP Baltar]

ok, fair enough. why not claim rita so he could join the town?

[Fargrass]

Perhaps SP is an SK and didn't shoot in fear of a PR?
Either way, I think I will vote tonight after talking to my other head.

Grass

[SocioPath]

ok, fair enough. why not claim rita so he could join the town?

This question is silly.

[VP Baltar]

I don't think so. If you're vanilla, it's worth the risk right? At worst you'll draw a scum kill when they fear you're a PR. VTs goal is to lynch scum or take the bullet at night. Seems reasonable to me. Why is it silly?

[Amrun]

Perhaps SP is an SK and didn't shoot in fear of a PR?
Either way, I think I will vote tonight after talking to my other head.

Grass

This is so far away from making sense.

OKAY

Unvote; Vote: Hindu

[SocioPath]

If you're vanilla, it's worth the risk right? At worst you'll draw a scum kill when they fear you're a PR. VTs goal is to lynch scum or take the bullet at night. Seems reasonable to me. Why is it silly?

Because that is not how I play at all.
PRs are fucking crutches.
And fuck PRs and let them get NK'd.
I do more as a VT in games than most do as PRs.
I hate the mentality that roles hold greater precedence than players.

But as far as pertaining to this game, there are so many layers are wrong in the statements.
Assuming Kise is telling the truth, and not a role fishing scum bag, would an innocent child whom has the ability to be confirmed town whenever they choose do so FIRST POST IN THE GAME?
NO. YOU FUCKING EAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND THEN GAUGE REACTIONS BEFORE/AFTER THE BALL IS DROPPED.

I'm not going to fucking make myself a target because someone else goes on D1 'LOLOL IM A SURVIVOR AND THESE PEOPLE I CAN TARGET TO NOT BE SURVIVOR ANYMORE, BUT I DONT KNOW IF I WANT TO.'

And YEAH, YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE CAME OUT AS RITA, EH?
THEN WHERE THE FUCK WAS DEXTER?
HE IS CONFIRMED TOWN AS WELL.

I'd rather eat an NK than a lynch cause of SCUM though.
THAT MUCH IS FUCKING CLEAR.


VPB looks TERRIBLE.

[Fargrass]

Perhaps SP is an SK and didn't shoot in fear of a PR?
Either way, I think I will vote tonight after talking to my other head.

Grass

This is so far away from making sense.

OKAY

Unvote; Vote: Hindu

How and why?
Grass

[VP Baltar]

So, I take it you feel you're the best player in this game? It's about ego? How is Dexter confirmed town? How is Rita confirmed town for that matter? If you thought Kise was lying about being a survivor, why didn't you push that angle? Why wouldn't you want to flip Kise to the town side after he's already proven how much of a detriment he is going to be to the town as a survivor?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, I'm no Harrison Ford, but no need to be cruel, bro.

[Kid Know Nothing]

@hin, do you have any flavor with your ability, specifically with your ability. I'm watching you, this claim seems really weird.

[Kid Know Nothing]

Let me elaborate. Kise is a claimed third party, who could join town or scum I am guessing. BB softclaimed. Two PRs or right there. A two shot tracker makes little sense considering the possibility of ay least three other actions going off in a night. A unrestricted tracker makes more sense in the situation. In my eyes.

[Hinduragi]

VPB looks TERRIBLE.

No. That was probably one of the best questions asked.

I don't buy "LOLOL RITA IS CONFIRMED TOWN CUZ THE SURVIVOR SAID SO". If ANYTHING, best scum gambit ever or Kise misread his PM. I'd go with the latter because you don't trust him except for when it comes to your claim, as per below.

I'm not going to fucking make myself a target because someone else goes on D1 'LOLOL IM A SURVIVOR AND THESE PEOPLE I CAN TARGET TO NOT BE SURVIVOR ANYMORE, BUT I DONT KNOW IF I WANT TO.'

KKN. Yeah, I put the gist of it in my claim. I'm limited because I'm occupied with my personal life(Her boyfriend, I'm assuming) and don't have time to focus on my police work. I have no clue why it's just 2, like I said.

A unrestricted tracker makes more sense in the situation. In my eyes.

I don't get it. Are you saying it's imbalanced?

[Juls]

Official Vote Count

[5]

Hinduragi

(SocioPath, Kise, Fargrass, tanstalas, Amrun)

[3]

SocioPath

(Hinduragi, Blackberry, VP Baltar)

[2]

Fargrass

(Sotty7, Debonair Danny DiPietro)

[0]

VP Baltar

()

[0]

Blackberry

()

[0]

tanstalas

()

[0]

Kid Know Nothing

()

[0]

Sotty7

()

[0]

Amrun

()

[0]

Kise

()

[0]

Debonair Danny DiPietro

()

Not Voting :

Kid Know Nothing

Votes needed for arrest :

6

Deadline for Day 2:

(expired on 2011-07-02 17:25:00)

V/LA:

Until July 4:

Kise

[Blackberry]

I believe 2-shot tracker. Since I have already soft-claimed a PR, I might as well state my ability is odd-ish too and thus I believe 2-shot tracker.

Come on guys, PR claim vs. no-Power claim. Hypothetically: we lynch one, if we are wrong, we lynch the other. Weighing the chances, would you rather lynch the PR first or the VT first? If we lynch PR first and are wrong we just shot ourself in the foot X_x.

Plus, I don't think Rita is confirmed in this game if it's coming from Kise. In fact, for all we know,

Kise knows Rita is the safe claim or something and is some sort of traitor

. And perhaps that is why he claimed in the first place. ^_^

[Blackberry]

So, lynching Socio not only may confirm Hindi, but if he is infact a mafia with a safe claim of Rita, we also know Kise is anti-town.

[Juls]

Sotty did not accept my invitation to return. I will seek a replacement. If it takes longer than 24 hours I will add extensions as necessary

[Blackberry]

I just thought of a crazy out-guess-the-mod idea that means Esmee can not be a town player, and thus has to be a safe name claim for scum.

But it's not enough for me to vote Esmee. I'm going to go do secret stuff.

[Blackberry]

BTW, reading the last game, there weren't that many power roles (4 total), so I say we lynch Socio still X_X.

[tanstalas]

Come on guys, PR claim vs. no-Power claim. Hypothetically: we lynch one, if we are wrong, we lynch the other. Weighing the chances, would you rather lynch the PR first or the

VT first

? If we lynch PR first and are wrong we just shot ourself in the foot X_x.

Except, if I was scum and I knew Hindu was town and was a tracker I would kill him tonight, so no results for you tomorrow. Or Block him if that was an option. It all is coming down to who I think has been more scummy this game. And that person is Hindu.

@BB where did Socio say he was VT? He just said he does more as a VT than PR's in most games, he did not say that this was the case here...?

[VP Baltar]

he said he has no abilities, meaning he's vt. Also, blackberry speaks the truth about lynching socio benefits here.

[Blackberry]

He blantantly said he did not go anywhere last night, thus stating he is not a power role, or at the very least, if he were a power role he most likely isn't helpful X_x (not investigative nor protective). Plus you don't know for sure scum would kill Hindi, and at the very least it'd draw a kill away from someone else or Hindi could be saved from a roleblock or w/e.