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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:15 am

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ThAd was voting MLudi because he demanded to know what ML thought was wrong with Seraphim.

ThAd thought Battousai is scum.

The night before, ThAd was blocked.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:15 am

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Seraphim wrote:Exactly, but I definitely don't want any lulzy WIFOM innocent results.

I don't understand what you mean, are you saying you're worried that I would claim an innocent on a scumbuddy?

@Fritzler: You have my permission to start voting. If I have a result that should influence the lynch - either a guilty or an innocent - then I will claim it if and when that's necessary.
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:28 am

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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:30 am

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I don't understand what you mean, are you saying you're worried that I would claim an innocent on a scumbuddy?
That's part of it.

This game differs for a cop in two regards. The first is that the cults don't always want a cop dead; they would rather recruit it and use it to hunt out the other cult. This means that even if you're recruited, your guilty results are still trustworthy, because you're still accountable for them.

However, innocents have dual weaknesses: you might be lying and that player might get recruited later. All innocent results are a game of Russian roulette.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:31 am

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Hint: every person heavily suspcted the previous days reduce their chance to be scum unless you think that person was recruited previously of their wagons.

thats why cobblerfone wagon is stupid as hell
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:32 am

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ftr I think Hero is likely cult at this point but for now I think its best to keep him alive.
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:34 am

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I'm also waiting for Ludi to respond.

Herodotus wrote:@Fritzler: You have my permission to start voting. If I have a result that should influence the lynch - either a guilty or an innocent - then I will claim it if and when that's necessary.


I was going to say that that probably means that you found an innocent. But then I realized that if you gave the guilty away immediately we all wouldn't be able to see if anyone's changed.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:23 am

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Oh yes.

Since Porochaz was recruited, we know that at least one recruiter isn't jockeying for quality on his team.
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:24 am

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Oooohhhhhh that's interesting. Andrius is dead...

Give me a little bit to think about this.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:39 am

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Seraphim wrote:
I don't understand what you mean, are you saying you're worried that I would claim an innocent on a scumbuddy?
That's part of it.

This game differs for a cop in two regards. The first is that the cults don't always want a cop dead; they would rather recruit it and use it to hunt out the other cult. This means that even if you're recruited, your guilty results are still trustworthy, because you're still accountable for them.

However, innocents have dual weaknesses: you might be lying and that player might get recruited later. All innocent results are a game of Russian roulette.
Ok.

populartajo wrote:Hint: every person heavily suspcted the previous days reduce their chance to be scum unless you think that person was recruited previously of their wagons.

thats why cobblerfone wagon is stupid as hell
The argument, from those who have made it, is that he was recruited on N0. If he wasn't, then setting aside suspicion, the fact that he claimed unrecruitable means no one would have tried to recruit him unless the scum felt they knew better.

populartajo wrote:ftr I think Hero is likely cult at this point but for now I think its best to keep him alive.
Let me make sure we're clear. You just said that you want to keep someone alive whom you think is scum. Correct?
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Cobblerfone wrote:I was going to say that that probably means that you found an innocent. But then I realized that if you gave the guilty away immediately we all wouldn't be able to see if anyone's changed.
Why were you going to say that? Do you believe that speculating on my actions and results would help the town?
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:39 am

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@LLD

It's not that interesting... Andrius and his temp-replacement ToastyToast didn't do much.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:40 am

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No... No... It's interesting for [redacted].
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:43 am

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Herodotus wrote:
populartajo wrote:Hint: every person heavily suspcted the previous days reduce their chance to be scum unless you think that person was recruited previously of their wagons.

thats why cobblerfone wagon is stupid as hell
The argument, from those who have made it, is that he was recruited on N0. If he wasn't, then setting aside suspicion, the fact that he claimed unrecruitable means no one would have tried to recruit him unless the scum felt they knew better.

cobblergone night 0 recruit. yeah right.

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populartajo wrote:ftr I think Hero is likely cult at this point but for now I think its best to keep him alive.
Let me make sure we're clear. You just said that you want to keep someone alive whom you think is scum. Correct?
VOTE: populartajo

yes, in the same vein as we keep alive a claimed vig that can be a sk and use him to our advantage

do you sincerelythink your chances to be recruited last night or even nights before are low?
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:54 am

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Tajo this is your scum meta.

Were you recruited?
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:08 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Tajo this is your scum meta.

No.

DrippingGoofball wrote:Were you recruited?

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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:10 am

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Sreiously, why are people still considering cobbler cult when its painfully obvious only a noob would have recruited him?

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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:11 am

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everyone, thoughs of tanarin in next post plz
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:04 pm

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Finally back. I had no access for the end of day two yesterday.

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I think it is time I claimed.

I have two abilities. Firstly, I am a Jailkeeper. I have jailed Yosarian2 on night one and night two, which means (hopefully, other wise this role isn't very good) that he was unable to be recruited on those nights. So far, all Flay has been clear about is that I roleblock and doctor protect Yosarian.

What Flay was ambigious about (despite me asking) is whether or not I roleblock anyone performing an action against Yosarian on those nights. Obviously, if this is true, there is no possible way Seraphim could have gotten anything (pertaining to role information) from Yosarian night one like he claimed to.

So, to everyone else, If you targeted Yosarian on either night and got No result (or something indicitating you were blocked), post in thread immediatly saying "I got no result", and then we lynch Seraphim.

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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:17 pm

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Anyways, we definently need to be lynching DrippingGoofball today.

I can't believe this wagon doesn't have any more votes. Yesterday she came out and gambited in the hope no one would lynch her, and it worked. She claimed that we needed to lynch her for some unknown reason because otherwise town loses, (so we don't listen to the confirmed scum, which we aren't and weren't doing anyway) but then drops that line of thought to persue other votes, and never mentions it again.

Also not to be forgotten is her insistence of living through day one so she could hatch a master plan to catch the scum, but when day two rolled around her plan amounted to a pile of sawdust, and yet she got away with this massive gap in logic scot free.

The following is also a series of quotes by Tajo the detail some other inconsistences.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3148192

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The following people I think are town, know are town, or unlikely to be recruited, as of day three. I'm debating whether or not massclaiming in an effort to expand this group is nessecary. At this point, with five potential cult out there and only townies dying by night, another mislynch is game over for town.

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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:26 pm

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Vote: Seraphim


Ludi, by definition, a Jailkeeper will roleblock any action that is taken on your target.

It's an action immunizer+ roleblocker combined.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:27 pm

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I got no result.

Unvote

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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:28 pm

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I received a no result on Yos which would match up with what you're saying. Either that, or I was roleblocked.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:29 pm

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Magister Ludi wrote:The second ability pertains to Herod. Because we 'work the beat' together (cops), I know if he has been recruited that night or not. As it stands he has not been recruited on night one or night two.
I don't think you should have claimed that so soon, but what's done is done.

Unfortunately I would expect your doctoring ability to keep the person alive, not prevent them from being recruited.

Also, if town would lose after two mislynches and one scumlynch I will be disappointed.

Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ludi, by definition, a Jailkeeper will roleblock any action that is taken on your target.

It's an action immunizer+ roleblocker combined.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:30 pm

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Seraphim wrote:I received a no result on Yos which would match up with what you're saying. Either that, or I was roleblocked.

I think you're going to need to explain.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:34 pm

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WAIT

WAIT HOLD ON

HOLD JUST A SECOND.

On N1, I got a no result on Yos, which matches up with what ML is saying...Yos was roleblocked so I can't have gotten a result.

Magister Ludi, where did you go last night?

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