DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Swift Justice]

oh and magua i'd nuke anonymously for the fun of it. not that it matters a whole lot now.

[inHimshallibe]

I didn't want to say it because of the shit Socio was pointing out about revealing my N2 target but I've got role info that makes Gamma look like a piece of shit lying Euro trashbag. I am pretty sure I got roleblocked last night. I got a message saying the target has not been received. Good enough for you? UNLESS SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN EXPLANATION TO WHY MY SECOND INHIM PROTECTION FAILED,(which, trust me, I spent a while trying to figure out after what Gamma said to make sure inHim wasn't anything like Air Base and I wasn't about to fuck us up by misreading into a PM or anything) continue on with EuroGamma-nuking

IHSIB should claim if he has the Airbase or not. Assuming that IHSIB doesn't claim Airbase, this is 100% correct -- Magna should abort the nuke on Sociopath and Gamma should die in a fire.

I believe the first protect working and the second not is proof enough, no?

[gorilla]

@Swift Justice:

One of Regfan or Magister Ludi, with more of a preference on Regfan. If Revenge of Wei flips town instead of scum, Internet Stranger.

regfan has claimed to have a nuke, so I want him to target someone before he possibly gets nuked so he can't go "trololo i am scum nook magua" or w/e

[Toogeloo]

Panda's deployment:
1. Counter-Intelligence
2. Fail Safe
3. Fallout Shelter
4. Radar
5. Eavesdrop
6. Air Base
7. Battleship
8. Fighter
9. Aircraft Carrier
10. Submarine
11. Silo


I think lines are clearly being drawn in the sand here, and to be honest, I don't know which side of the camp I am on. On one hand, I hadn't had a problem with Gamma prior to today, and I did have problems with both SDC and Socio from previous DEFCON phases. On the other hand, Gamma suiciding and giving people time to re-evaluate nukesand could save a lot of unnecessary death. And betwixt all of this, I still have the worst feeling about Ludi and would much rather see him dead than anyone. LLDs nuke recall seemed almost as bad as the nuking itself and I wouldn't mind seeing her disappear as well.


Certain players have become camouflaged since the launch party, and that worries me a bit. Specifically dana, Pooky, Ludi, Hez, and Regfan all come to mind as people who need to stand out more. Some are seen as town, others as scum. I have a null on most (except Ludi) just because I forget of their existence.

[Hinduragi]

@Swift Justice:

One of Regfan or Magister Ludi, with more of a preference on Regfan. If Revenge of Wei flips town instead of scum, Internet Stranger.

regfan has claimed to have a nuke, so I want him to target someone before he possibly gets nuked so he can't go "trololo i am scum nook magua" or w/e

If he goes "trololo i am scum nook magua", I'd RATHER have him dead BEFORE he targets someone.

LLD, got anything on the bottom of 1403?

Toog, you need to read the post where I got RB'd. Gamma's scum. Yes, he needs to suicide. No, he probably won't but will instead lurk until his homeland is a crater.

[Toogeloo]

Are we going with scorched earth theory then at this point?

Any WIFOM of alignment should just be craterized? I think you said you had some crazy theory of bussing between gamma and socio, but I'm not sure they would go about that in such a manner in less than a dozen posts, would they? Should MoI be recalling and let gamma drop dead, or since we have a 75% advantage over scum, and them having a single night kill a night, opt for total destruction of all questionables?

[Toogeloo]

I would much rather keep the field as large as possible for as long as possible, simply because mass nukage is going to cull a lot of town in the process, and which of those town were radiated by opportunistic scum, and which were casualties of bad decisions? Meanwhile, scum continue to only get 1 shot per night, while town's reads get stronger the longer the game goes on.

[Swift Justice]

happy scumday Viscum!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hind, it's more likely that the QL is something like ON or ER or ED?

I mean, TH is a common two letter pairing, but as a suffix, it isn't common at all. It's about placement aswell as frequency.

However, I do agree about the HD/DH. Those are all good pairings for that.

I haven't actually run any real analysis on that phrase. I'll try at some point, but I'm not feeling up to it tonight.

I might do some tomorrow night? Or maybe over the actual night phase?

If you really want some TONIGHT, I'll see what I can do in a quick sense.

[Hinduragi]

Are we going with scorched earth theory then at this point?

Any WIFOM of alignment should just be craterized? I think you said you had some crazy theory of bussing between gamma and socio, but I'm not sure they would go about that in such a manner in less than a dozen posts, would they? Should MoI be recalling and let gamma drop dead, or since we have a 75% advantage over scum, and them having a single night kill a night, opt for total destruction of all questionables?

...

Pooky nuked Gamma for IS when IS had to go for Wei.
Gamma said he blocked Toog to confirm his counterintelligence both nights.
MoI nuked Socio.
Socio sub-nuked Gamma and got blocked.
Gamma says it was Katsuki who blocked Socio.
I say I got blocked last night.
That's 3 blocks. Socio's confirmed. I know I was blocked. Toog must be the guy who wasn't blocked.
A.k.a. Gamma lied. Why lie about Toog? Townpoints, buddies, etc. No town-motive, though.

LLD, I was messing around with possible 5x5 grids and I wanted to know if I could shortcut it by looking at some of the stuff you had earlier. It's fine.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That code is completely different from the one I have already solved. All the frequency is based entirely on what is contained withing the message.

To utilize a frequency assumption from the other code would send you down a wrong track entirely.

Starting from scratch is the ONLY way to ensure success. Which is tedious, but it can be done.

My first instinct is that it's probably" ON", but that's a low percentage guess. I'd like to do a further analysis to see if I can't come up with something. But not tonight ;_;

[SocioPath]

Socio sub-nuked Gamma and got blocked.

In other news.
SCREAMING DEATH CLAN needs to die.
They are scum.
Scum.
Scum.
Scum.
Coming from the guy whom can read FATE, you have my word, I guarantee it.
BE TEE DUBS, they were my NOOK target.
So anyone whom wants to follow that up is FINE BY ME.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you're a real american hero and you're not thinking about who to blast into a little crater. there is something wrong with you.

I also humbly suggest euro scum and their sympathizer friends to please sign some nuclear disarmament treaty and make a big deal out of it.

[Magua]

@Magna:

Do you think Hinduragi is town or scum?

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, FATE.

If you bus me you lose one free nuke I only need to buy one more day

If this message isn't faked and gorilla didn't post them a day late or something, we have a few options for this based on activity on Day 2. According to the voting spreadsheet for that day, we had votes fall on the following people:

AurorusVox

, danakillsu, gorilla, HezLucky, Internet Stranger, MagnaofIllusion, Revenge of Wei, Screaming Death Clan, SocioPath, Swift Justice

Of those people, danakillsu, Internet Stranger, MagnaofIllusion, Revenge of Wei, and SocioPath are confirmed to have nukes. gorilla has claimed his ability and thus does not have a nuke. HezLucky, Screaming Death Clan, and Swift Justice have, to my knowledge, claimed nukes but have not yet launched them.

Based on the amount of votes, gorilla and HezLucky stand out as having the most votes; however, Revenge of Wei was also falling under pressure if my memory isn't being biased by my rampant nationalism or something. The voters are listed below:

HezLucky (3) -

AurorusVox

, danakillsu, Gammagooey
gorilla (8) -

AurorusVox

, Hinduragi, Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, MagnaofIllusion, Regfan, Swift Justice, Toogeloo
Revenge of Wei (3) - Internet Stranger, Regfan, Swift Justice

To note, the HezLucky wagon fizzled out and died in favor of other targets with the exception of danakillsu, who stuck to his guns. gorilla's wagon died when he claimed Eavesdrop, and so far I do not see a reason to disbelieve him. The best candidate here is most likely Revenge of Wei, who has done next to nothing except nuke us as their dying vengeance, and the "I only need to buy one more day" part seems to apply to them the most. I recall seeing people call Revenge of Wei scum but not vote them, so I'm going to hop about the thread and see what basis I have for that line of thought.

[Gammagooey]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY FATE!
Hinduragi is scum battleship about to get outed by Revenge of the Wei not dying.
Katsuki blocked Socio.

YEP.

[Swift Justice]

Gamma did you think you and Vi would be the first 2 of your scumgroup to die?

[Gammagooey]

IM NOT SCUM SO NOPE.

[Swift Justice]

equinox maybe we don't have a nuke! man i wish we'd picked cop now like i was planning to, pity.

[Swift Justice]

IM NOT SCUM SO NOPE.

CONFESS! btw <3 u for making lists, time to go through them with a fine tooth comb. thanks for confirming mina as town beyond all reasonable doubt though, troll.jpg.

[Gammagooey]

IMA BREAK YOUR COMB.
*SNAP*
TAKE THAT.

[Swift Justice]

jw: why did your scumbuddy vi nuke us? are we that big of a threat, I mean what with everyone calling me suspicious i was like WOAH maybe i'm not as good as I think I am but now that you 2 are scum i realise that's not true.

[Equinox]

(Equinox)

equinox maybe we don't have a nuke! man i wish we'd picked cop now like i was planning to, pity.

YARLY.

IMA BREAK YOUR COMB.
*SNAP*
TAKE THAT.

AW, DAMMIT, THAT WAS AN EXPENSIVE COMB. OH WELL! IT WAS MADE IN ITALY, ANYWAY, GO FIGURE.

FARADAY, USE THIS AMERICAN-MADE COMB.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

Spoiler: The Contents of Post 1522

(Equinox)

equinox maybe we don't have a nuke! man i wish we'd picked cop now like i was planning to, pity.

YARLY.

IMA BREAK YOUR COMB.
*SNAP*
TAKE THAT.

AW, DAMMIT, THAT WAS AN EXPENSIVE COMB. OH WELL! IT WAS MADE IN ITALY, ANYWAY, GO FIGURE.

FARADAY, USE THIS AMERICAN-MADE COMB.

DERP.

[Internet Stranger]

What if Wei has the Fallout Shelter. Can we just nuke her again?