@Stevie wagon-
Glad to see the wagon disperse. It still strongly looks like a mix of town-scum jumping aboard an acceptable wagon not because Stevie was actually scummy, but rather because he's a weak player who can't defend himself very well. Even his refusal to claim was hardly scummy; it's simply anti-town play that tends to get a player lynched. The townies on the Stevie wagon were likely getting themselves hung up on the bad/anti-town play and fallaciously convincing themselves that anti-town/bad play = scummy play.
Iec wrote:enough of his analysis seems motivated to support theses that I don't think are very plausible that I am suspicious
How does this differ at all from my behavior in BatB1? All of my analysis support the conclusions I reach; and in both this game and that you agreed with some things and disagreed with others.
Iec wrote:GreyICE, which, while reasonable questions, seemed to be presented in lieu of other game participation, if that makes any sense.
An issue I have with this is that you don't address whether I avoided other game participation or not. There's plenty of posts to form an opinion on whether your initial feeling proved true or not.
@
Tajo-
Your pattern is kinda old.
Each game we play you start by saying you hate me for my wallotexts. Then you proceed to wall it up yourself and admit I'm town when you finally read my posts.
@Malthusis-
Overall, he's an acceptable lynch, primarily for his initial GreyICE overreaction vote and for his current Surye "I've gotta get people off my case" vote.
Malthusis wrote:I also have good gut feeling that this is probably a mislynch, but unless Stevie has one hell of a claim (and now, don't do any retarded stalling!) I won't mind him being lynched at all.
It looks like a lot of people are harping over this line. It's not anywhere near as blatantly scummy as has been proposed. On the face of it, this simply states he thinks Stevie's behavior is extremely anti-town and if he gets lynched for it, then he deserves it, regardless of affiliation. It could potentially indicate Malthusis setting up to go with the prevailing attitude (which would be a bit scummy).
Malthusis wrote:All you are doing are just following the crowd, picking out whatever quotes support yours, trying to break town trust between townies, instead of actually trying to find scum.
Are you describing your own post? LLD/GreyICE's Surye attack is just as bad now that you're sheeping it as it was when they first pushed it forward.
@Town Bloc-
CandleJack wrote:As town,
you want to get as many town
(hopefully mutual)
reads as possible
, not vote any of them, and collaborate and hunt down the scum that way.
This summarizes my disagreement with the prevailing town bloc philosophy. It reads like a core scum philosophy, ESPECIALLY the underlined portion. As town we should be searching for SCUM primarily. Town reads are helpful along the way, but giving players free passes simply because they agree with you or because they made a few pro-town sounding posts is BAD PLAY. This game has plenty of players who have solid scum games where they play just as if they were actually town. That alone makes searching for town-reads INSTEAD OF searching for scum reads a bad idea. With the way people are handing out town reads simply based on 1 or 2 posts that they like, this is even worse.
If a group of players all agree on a case and all decide to vote on that case; that's great. When a group of players decides to vote on a case, irresepective of it's merits and simply do it because the most vocal players are also doing it; we're just letting scum blend in and avoid responsibility.
drew wrote:Because if there's a talented and vocal scum in that group, he or he could have control of six votes. That's a good thing?
This, but also just if there's an idiot and the rest just follow the group think. Like what's happening now with LC pretty much getting a free pardon.
Of the players in the bloc, I'm liking LLD the least; she pretty much just called all the other members townies based on...
playing with them before?
; sheeped/buddied/whatever you want to call it the reads of her proclaimed townies, then took some WTF?! potshots at her "approved" scum list.
@Surye-
LLD's attacks on Surye re:GI are a huge misrepresentation. (Lulz, go ahead and put me down as his buddy for disagreeing with you
). GI's and Maltusis' attacks are similarly bad.
@Noc-
Goodpost, but you're prolly still scum.
