Return to Gambits (SK Win!)

[vezokpiraka]

His vote was there to deflect from the wagon he was going to get.
Cobblerfone was scummy from yesterday, he still is.
It's probable bussing because I consider both of them scum.
No it wouldn't be , but cobblerfone was a big target yesterday so today he is just trying to get away with it.

[Empking]

Vote Count 27

Cobblerfone
Pine (1) - earworm
Nocmen (1) - PeregrineV
TheMask (2) - Amrun, Cobblerfone
Amrun
Surye
jilynne1991 (3) - Nocmen, TheMask, Pine
vezokprika (1) - Ironhead
earworm (1) - vezokprika
chkflip (1) - jilynne1991
PeregrineV (1) - Surye
Ironhead
sorasgoof

Not Voting: chkflip, sorasgoof

With 13 alive, its 7 to lynch.

[Amrun]

I'm not making a full towncase on someone - I have already made a fairly good one anyway.

Jilynne is town. I have played with jilynne scum twice and read through her completed scum game and played with jilynne town once and skimmed some other games.

She is town.

[Surye]

I'm not making a full towncase on someone - I have already made a fairly good one anyway.

Jilynne is town. I have played with jilynne scum twice and read through her completed scum game and played with jilynne town once and skimmed some other games.

She is town.

I don't like it... all meta, and your analysis of her play seems off, especially when you said she had solid reads on everyone. But you seem fairly confident, and I think pressing the issue won't help town. Besides, I wasn't super gungho about her wagon anyways, I like where I am, but I could use some company.

Jilly, have you read my posts on PeregrineV? Or any of our interactions? Comments on that? Also, why do you give earworm scummy to null, but ironhead town? Do you not believe the claim? Or do you?

[Amrun]

I meant she expressed reads, not that the reads themselves were good.

[earworm]

@Amrun, Surye + Cobblerfone: Thoughts on Pine?

Mod: v/la 30th-3rd

[Amrun]

It's in my readslist.

[Amrun]

Surye, thoughst on Mask?

[earworm]

what about his voting? They've all been pretty bad.

Sathoris-->silly OMGUS
DeityKabuto-->opportunistic vote, with little reasoning
earworm-->bad reasoning, opporunistic, and didn't unvote when I claimed.
Jily-->Hella opportunistic

[Amrun]

Good point.

I will keep it in mind, but I am more convinved of mask and pv.

[PeregrineV]

@Amrun- I would normally ignore you since you've presented zero evidence, but I'm trying to avoid work, so I'll give you some posts to quote and yell "Scum!"

[Cobblerfone]

@Amrun, Surye + Cobblerfone: Thoughts on Pine?

Somewhat townish I guess. I can't think of any examples of why, except maybe that he hasn't done anything scummy. If he's scum, I'm thinking he's the Serial Killer. His "gambit" plus this:

The SK is also a roleblocker, earworm. Could also be that the Mafia hit their traitor.

Seems more SK oriented than mafia.

[PeregrineV]

coolies, I've caught up with all my games now, yay!
Now for my reads:

Town:

Cobblerfone
Deitykabuto
CMAR
Sathoris
jilynne
earworm
Surye
Ironhead

Scum:

Vezok

wredfar

PeregrineV

TheMask

null:

CWorl

sorasgoof

TheJackalope

Pine

SCUM

PeregrineV
Mask

Nocmen

Sorasgoof

Pine

C-Worl

Vezokpiraka

Cobbler
Surye
Earworm
Ironhead
Jily

(as per another post)

TOWN

Amrun replaced Quilford who replaced monk.
Monk's reads are at the top, Amrun's reads below.
2 distinct players,
One male, one female.
One US east coast, one Australian East coast.
One day1 reads, one day2 reads

Almost exact same reads? Who are you kidding? Might happen if you were town, but totally doubt it. Guessing you replaced into a scum slot, and it's easier using what the slot already posted then redo their work.

Unvote. Vote: Amrun

[Amrun]

That is honestly the dumbest reason to vote that I have ever seen. Have fun with that.

[Nocmen]

Wait....so the reads are possible if Amrun is town so therefore you vote her because she's scum?

....

....

Unvote, Vote: Peregrine

[Amrun]

Unvote; Vote: PeregrineV

Don't care which one goes first.

Peregrine, seriously, thanks for totally ignoring the pages and pages of work that I did (and posted) in order to come to those reads. I like it when my suspects claim scum.

[Surye]

coolies, I've caught up with all my games now, yay!
Now for my reads:

Town:

Cobblerfone
Deitykabuto
CMAR
Sathoris
jilynne
earworm
Surye
Ironhead

Scum:

Vezok

wredfar

PeregrineV

TheMask

null:

CWorl

sorasgoof

TheJackalope

Pine

SCUM

PeregrineV
Mask

Nocmen

Sorasgoof

Pine

C-Worl

Vezokpiraka

Cobbler
Surye
Earworm
Ironhead
Jily

(as per another post)

TOWN

Amrun replaced Quilford who replaced monk.
Monk's reads are at the top, Amrun's reads below.
2 distinct players,
One male, one female.
One US east coast, one Australian East coast.
One day1 reads, one day2 reads

Almost exact same reads? Who are you kidding? Might happen if you were town, but totally doubt it. Guessing you replaced into a scum slot, and it's easier using what the slot already posted then redo their work.

Unvote. Vote: Amrun

I told you guys. "easier using what the slot already posted then redo their work", Amrun clearly did a hell of a lot of work to catch up, that is insulting.

And "Might happen if you were town, but totally doubt it" is terrible.

As for Mask, I don't like his play exactly, but he feels like town to me. I just don't agree with his opinions. Pine, I need to re-read.

[earworm]

coolies, I've caught up with all my games now, yay!
Now for my reads:

Town:

Cobblerfone
Deitykabuto
CMAR
Sathoris
jilynne
earworm
Surye
Ironhead

Scum:

Vezok

wredfar

PeregrineV

TheMask

null:

CWorl

sorasgoof

TheJackalope

Pine

SCUM

PeregrineV
Mask

Nocmen

Sorasgoof

Pine

C-Worl

Vezokpiraka

Cobbler
Surye
Earworm
Ironhead
Jily

(as per another post)

TOWN

Amrun replaced Quilford who replaced monk.
Monk's reads are at the top, Amrun's reads below.
2 distinct players,
One male, one female.
One US east coast, one Australian East coast.
One day1 reads, one day2 reads

Almost exact same reads? Who are you kidding? Might happen if you were town, but totally doubt it. Guessing you replaced into a scum slot, and it's easier using what the slot already posted then redo their work.

Unvote. Vote: Amrun

lol

VOTE: peregrineV

[jilynne1991]

I want to shoot myself. This game is so freaking frustrating. Just saying, but I have no clue whatsoever how to find scum, so I'm just listening to other people and seeing if any case happens to be really persuasive.

One thing I'm so sure about, is that Surye is town. No freaking idea why I think that, but I have a feeling that's true. Also, I'm wavering on earworm's claim, so I kind of believe it, but I've always though ironhead was town, and since I partly believe the claim, that supports my thinking that ironhead is town. I would believe ironhead if town, even if the claim wasn't there, but I still distrust earworm.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I'm hammering.

VOTE: ToastyToast

Gawd, I have a sick feeling in my stomach.

[earworm]

Ok, I'm hammering.

VOTE: ToastyToast

Gawd, I have a sick feeling in my stomach.

LOL

wrong game there bucko

[jilynne1991]

UGH, OMG, I WAS SO SURE I WOULDN'T MAKE A STUPID MISTAKE LIKE THIS!!! WHATEVER. IT'S MY FIRST ONE SO FAR.

[Pine]

Being 13, means that I don't have to work and that, yes, I do have time to sign up for 10+ games

But apparently not with the capacity to give all of them their due. Please do not sign up for more until you get down to a manageable number. You're droppng the ball in every game we share.

Unvote
Vote: Peregrine

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote peregrnie

LOL. I don't see town saying something like that.

[Ironhead]

That's L-1. Please refrain from hammering until PeregrineV can defend himself and claim.

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vezokpiraka, what is it that PeregrineV said that you "don't see town saying something like"? Your vote looks awfully opportunistic -- as did your vote on earworm -- and I'm wondering just how convinced you really are about this wagon.