ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

Hinduragi · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:19 am

It isn't BUT Father represents judgement so if anyone would be a cop, it would be him. And scum nk'ing the cult cop is laughable at best. They want to kill the cult too. Hell, cult cop could even be a mafia fakeclaim or actual role.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:20 am

Thor665 wrote:@DGB - you're saying that an unrecruitable cult cop would be unbalancing?

I think it might be.

hascow's lack of breadcrumbs, nonsensical choices, and his

claim-and-run

act aren't inspiring confidence.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:21 am

Hinduragi wrote:Cult too. Hell, cult cop could even be a mafia fakeclaim or actual role.

Yep. I could be a mafia role.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:21 am

EBWOP

"It" not "I"

Hinduragi · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:22 am

Neither is his going for Locke and defending himself yesterday but being fine with his wagon today. Anything like this meta-wise?

ooba · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:22 am

Vote Count

Magua (4)

- Empking, AlmasterGM, Nexus, SpyreX

hasdgfas (6)

- Espeonage, Hinduragi, vezokpiraka, DrippingGoofball, Thor665, Benmage

Benmage (2)

- Locke Lamora, Magua

Espeonage (1)

- Setael

Nexus (1)

- LynchMePls

Not Voting (2)

- hasdgfas, Lost Butterfly

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

Deadline is in

(expired on 2011-07-06 23:59:59)

Magua · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:25 am

SpyreX wrote:Where in the hell are you getting this from?

Flavor.

Cult is R'hllor worshippers. Cult recruits by convincing someone who worships the Seven to worship R'hllor instead. Those who are strong in their faith in the Seven are not convertible. All of this is fact.

The assumption is that the Embodiments would be strong in their faith in the Seven.

SpyreX · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:29 am

Why would a cult cop be not NK'able?

Flavor.

Cult is R'hllor worshippers. Cult recruits by convincing someone who worships the Seven to worship R'hllor instead. Those who are strong in their faith in the Seven are not convertible. All of this is fact.

The assumption is that the Embodiments would be strong in their faith in the Seven.

With one dead and that not being mentioned this is a stretch.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:31 am

SpyreX wrote:Why would a cult cop be not NK'able?

Because... who would kill a cult cop? Unless the cult has killz.

Magua · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:32 am

I didn't say not NK'able. I said not convertible.

I did say that scum would be morons to NK the cult-cop, though.

PEdit: Ninja'd. Odd that DGB would agree with me after stating that the "real" cult cop shouldn't counterclaim.

SpyreX · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:32 am

Ohhhhhh

Well if the cult cop in fact turns up some actual cults then the scums would have to make them dead or give a killer backrub.

That first part was at DGB. The second was at you because that business strikes me as super odd.

SpyreX · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:33 am

It isn't BUT Father represents judgement so if anyone would be a cop, it would be him. And scum nk'ing the cult cop is laughable at best. They want to kill the cult too. Hell, cult cop could even be a mafia fakeclaim or actual role.

If cow is a cult cop this is the slimy words of a cult

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:34 am

Magua wrote:DGB would agree with me after stating that the "real" cult cop shouldn't counterclaim.

My thoughts are evolving.

SpyreX · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:44 am

Unvote, Vote: Cow

Looking at iso no way would a cult cop be tepid about SK getting run up as cult. Either after the vig claim you turn it around or you show some bite.

Hinduragi · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:45 am

Spyrex wrote:If cow is a cult cop this is the slimy words of a cult

Explain, Spyrex.

I've got a theory I will share later. Right now it's still forming.

SpyreX · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:50 am

Hell, cult cop could even be a mafia fakeclaim or actual role.

The setup for him not being NK'd (which if we hit cult you know will happen) and, more importantly - why only mafia? Cult cop as cult going down makes a lot more sense.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:51 am

I don't buy the claim.

Look at the numbers. We have four mafia if we think DGB's theory is correct. They are probably unrecruitable because it would be incredibly stupid to have a culted scum.
7 spirits if I understand correctly. They should be unrecruitable too. Imagine having the cult with a vig. Or a culted cult cop. Then we have the CR.

That just leaves 8 people that can be culted.

I think I'm flavorgaming a bit too much here, but does 11 unrecruitables sound reasonable?

Hinduragi · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:51 am

No, I mean what does him flipping cult cop or not have to do with it. There's no way I know his role as any alignment.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:51 am

Also I've seen Cult leader claim Cult doctor. Cult cop is not such a stench.

SpyreX · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:54 am

I don't buy the claim.

Look at the numbers. We have four mafia if we think DGB's theory is correct. They are probably unrecruitable because it would be incredibly stupid to have a culted scum.
7 spirits if I understand correctly. They should be unrecruitable too. Imagine having the cult with a vig. Or a culted cult cop. Then we have the CR.

That just leaves 8 people that can be culted.

I think I'm flavorgaming a bit too much here, but does 11 unrecruitables sound reasonable?

Scum being unrecruitable makes sense balance wise (or wacky hijinks).

You hit the nail on the head about the other part. Can't recruit until N2 AND 11 unrecruitables?

Unless it was a cult group at the beginning, no way.

Hinduragi · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:54 am

Cult cop as cult going down makes a lot more sense.

Oh, I didn't read this. I guess a cult cop claim as cult could make sense.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:21 am

Unvote, vote: cow

L-1

hasdgfas · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:24 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:Mmmmmmmm

I just iso'd hascow.

There is a lack of role breadcrumb, resul breadcrumb, and suspicion breadcrumb.

Hascow left no hint that Thor and Lock were investigated and cleared.

And no hint that they were his suspects to begin with.

Am I wrong, cow? Prove me otherwise.

Me Day 1 wrote:I'm also a little worried about Thor, but that can wait until Day 2, as I have to see some of his D2 behavior before knowing what I think of him.

And then I didn't mention anything about looking at Thor Day 2. As far as Locke goes? I really didn't know who I was going to investigate until I sent in my choice.

I didn't role breadcrumb, because those are easily faked.

As far as result breadcrumbs? Why in the world should I breadcrumb "not cult"? All that means is they're not cult that night, it means literally nothing as they could be culted the next night or be mafia.

hasdgfas · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:26 am

Empking wrote:Has: Why didn't you investigate Magua?

Because I didn't buy the non-reasoning of everyone else saying he was obv-cult leader

hasdgfas · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:27 am

SpyreX wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Cow

Looking at iso no way would a cult cop be tepid about SK getting run up as cult. Either after the vig claim you turn it around or you show some bite.

I have no idea what you're saying here.