Mini 1185 - Artemis Fowl Mafia Game Over

[Katsuki]

I'll provide my reads later. I do think that the remaining scum can be found by PoE though.

Meanwhile, I'm curious as to your thoughts on me, Lei.

[Leiskyrie]

I said I still think MPR is probscum...wasn't that clear enough in my post? Unless you're asking me to choose somebody else.

My thoughts about Kat: in all honesty, I generally have absolutely no problems in reading Kat with absolute certainty, and usually by D2 at the very latest. This is the first time I've ever had to constantly second-guess myself. Going to lean town at the moment, but I'm still waiting for that list of reads...

Elli, please explain why you've called bobsnox obvtown. I'm not seeing it.

[MehPlusRawr]

So do we have a scumteam that can make multiple kills, two scumteams, or an SK? If there was a vig, he would have claimed.

[bobsnox]

Have we heard a claim from Katsuki? All I saw was modified elite bodyguard. I haven't been asked to claim yet either which is sorta weird. Leis said she (she?) asked someone to claim but I can't find it.

[Ellibereth]

Someone to claim next I meant.
And bobtown ummm...without reading back it was from his bad attitude transform to good attitude-atron sometime in d1 with some bigpost. Yeah.
We need to finish this masslciam guys...I think bob and Katsu are yet to go? SO LEI CHOOOSE.

[Nexus]

Votecount 4.1:

Not voting: Everyone (bobsnox, Ellibereth, Katsuki, Leiskyrie, MehPlusRawr)

Deadline is 11th July 2011 at 7pm. However, if activity is slow, I reserve the right to shorten it.

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[MehPlusRawr]

Someone to claim next I meant.
And bobtown ummm...without reading back it was from his bad attitude transform to good attitude-atron sometime in d1 with some bigpost. Yeah.
We need to finish this masslciam guys...I think bob and Katsu are yet to go? SO LEI CHOOOSE.

Wait, didn't they claim? Oh, I thought we were finished.

[Leiskyrie]

bob, claim.

[bobsnox]

Here's why I have a hard time believing all the VT claims. I'm a VT.

I think our votes are best placed on either MPR or Ellibereth. Artemis Sr. is not in this game. I doubt his wife is either. So, I'm thinking we have an odd night SK in Ellibereth. The absence of Artemis Sr plus the fact that Elli claimed VT is why I'm picking him over MPR. It's possible (if not probable) that MPR is scum. I would say we have at least two more scum in a game this size: perhaps one SK, one mafia. But Elli gets my vote for now because there are just too many VTs IMO.

VOTE: Ellibereth

[Katsuki]

Ok.

I highly doubt Bob is scum. Acomist didn't think so either.
I know that I am dripping in townie goodness.

As such, scum are 2 of Leiskyrie, MPR and Elli.

Lei usually doesn't leave as many options open as she has this game. Looking back, I can't see who she's thought is town this game.
Then again, she was pushing for MPR lynch all yesterday.
The fact that I didn't get immediate scum-vibes from her at the start of the game is also worth noting.
@Lei: List of reads from towniest to scummiest.

Elli I honestly have no idea. As scum, he usually isn't this active.

However...

MPR is probably scum.

I doubt both Lei and Elli are scum together, meaning that MPR is definately scum via PoE. I also have other reasons to believe that he is most likely scum.
We can probably work Lei/Elli out tomorrow.

I still need to re-read this game. VCA to come when I have time. At first glance, there are quite a few gems to be found in VCA.

THIS IS IN ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES A VOTE.

FOS: MPR

[Katsuki]

Here's why I have a hard time believing all the VT claims. I'm a VT.

I think our votes are best placed on either MPR or Ellibereth. Artemis Sr. is not in this game. I doubt his wife is either. So, I'm thinking we have an odd night SK in Ellibereth. The absence of Artemis Sr plus the fact that Elli claimed VT is why I'm picking him over MPR. It's possible (if not probable) that MPR is scum. I would say we have at least two more scum in a game this size: perhaps one SK, one mafia. But Elli gets my vote for now because there are just too many VTs IMO.

VOTE: Ellibereth

So you think that there'd be a 2-man scumteam in a 13-player game?...
And that lynching the supposed "odd-night SK" is the right play for today???

[MehPlusRawr]

Here's why I have a hard time believing all the VT claims. I'm a VT.

I think our votes are best placed on either MPR or Ellibereth. Artemis Sr. is not in this game. I doubt his wife is either. So, I'm thinking we have an odd night SK in Ellibereth. The absence of Artemis Sr plus the fact that Elli claimed VT is why I'm picking him over MPR. It's possible (if not probable) that MPR is scum. I would say we have at least two more scum in a game this size: perhaps one SK, one mafia. But Elli gets my vote for now because there are just too many VTs IMO.

VOTE: Ellibereth

Why would you lynch an SK that supposedly can't kill tonight today?

[bobsnox]

Here's why I have a hard time believing all the VT claims. I'm a VT.

I think our votes are best placed on either MPR or Ellibereth. Artemis Sr. is not in this game. I doubt his wife is either. So, I'm thinking we have an odd night SK in Ellibereth. The absence of Artemis Sr plus the fact that Elli claimed VT is why I'm picking him over MPR. It's possible (if not probable) that MPR is scum. I would say we have at least two more scum in a game this size: perhaps one SK, one mafia. But Elli gets my vote for now because there are just too many VTs IMO.

VOTE: Ellibereth

Why would you lynch an SK that supposedly can't kill tonight today?

wow good call.

too bad for you though lol

UNVOTE: Elli
VOTE: MPR

[Nexus]

Votecount 4.2:

MehPlusRawr (1): bobsnox

Not voting: Ellibereth, Katsuki, Leiskyrie, MehPlusRawr

With five alive, it takes three to lynch. Deadline is 11th July 2011 at 7pm.

ALSO: I have updated all of the flips with flavour. Please read it. I told you I'd get it done eventually

[Ellibereth]

Katsu aren't you still left?
to claim

[Leiskyrie]

I think our votes are best placed on either MPR or Ellibereth. Artemis Sr. is not in this game. I doubt his wife is either. So, I'm thinking we have an odd night SK in Ellibereth. The absence of Artemis Sr plus the fact that Elli claimed VT is why I'm picking him over MPR. It's possible (if not probable) that MPR is scum. I would say we have at least two more scum in a game this size: perhaps one SK, one mafia. But Elli gets my vote for now because there are just too many VTs IMO.

VOTE: Ellibereth

Am I the only one who finds this post terribly illogical?
First of all, how does Artemis Sr.'s existence (or rather, lack thereof) in this game have anything to do with whether or not Angelina is included? This conclusion is without evidence and based purely on flavor speculation.

[bobsnox]

It's not illogical if my flavor speculation is accurate. That's really where you have an issue right?

Before we go any further, though, Kats needs to claim.

[Leiskyrie]

I don't actually think that flavor speculation could extend as far as saying that because one character isn't in the game, the other isn't as well. We had extremely minor characters like Vinyaya after all. And after all, elli did counterclaim Sleepy (though at this point, after having examined all the votecounts and doing some minor analysis, I'm having a hard time thinking of elli as town.)

[bobsnox]

I think we're mostly agreed. Where the heck is Kats?

[Katsuki]

Still a modified elite bodyguard here.

Not clarifying how my role works before tomorrow though.

[Ellibereth]

Were you cause of any blood?

[Ellibereth]

TBH my hunch right now is MPR being some sort of commuter-SK hence the alternation and stuff. I'm not sure if it makes sense yet, just though of.

[Nexus]

MehPlusRawr has been prodded. He has one more chance, and if he's prodded again he will be force replaced and blacklisted.

[Ellibereth]

though at this point, after having examined all the votecounts and doing some minor analysis, I'm having a hard time thinking of elli as town.

Ummm where you see this?
I tried to do some vote stuff earlier void of my own reads and think I got stuck and gave up.

[MehPlusRawr]

this game isn't really doing much. Nobody's explaining votes against me, there's not really anything I can do.