New York 131: Tricycle Mafia (Day 5)

[Pine]

Except for the fact that you're unmitigated, lying scum.

I have perhaps made foolish roleblocking decisions, but I've openly claimed them and explained my reasons. Zepher has LIED to us for his own agenda. At least twice, one of those being to deflect a lynch off of himself and onto A COP CLEAR.

OF COURSE I BLOCKED HIM.

Plus, I've got a good shot at blocking the scum kill and CATCHING THEM IN THE ACT tonight.

Lynch Zepher, and we've got a great shot at winning. Lynch me and we lose.

[Uite]

Scum

[Pine]

WHY?

[MrZepher]

PROVE WHERE I LIED.

PROVE IT.
You say that I lied and all this ish, but NOTHING to back it up.
Your evidence is questionable at best, and you're using it as justification for the truth and your blatantly anti-town decisions.
THAT'S why you're scum.

Uite has had SO MUCH time to hammer you and end the game, and that fact alone confirms him as town.
At least IMO.

[Pine]

Lie #1: Claimed to have three powers, then changed his story to two. Of his three/two powers, only one was ever stated...

Lie #2: ...And that one power that was claimed magically removed the COP CLEAR on Nobody Special, throwing the lynch off of himself and onto a confirmed Townie...who, guess what, flipped Town.

Also, this is the most damning scumslip of the game (BRAND NEW EVIDENCE!):

Uite has had SO MUCH time to hammer you and

end the game

, and that fact alone confirms him as town.

Zepher knows that hammering me will win the game for him and his buddy.

[MrZepher]

Lie #1: Claimed to have three powers, then changed his story to two. Of his three/two powers, only one was ever stated...

Lie #2: ...And that one power that was claimed magically removed the COP CLEAR on Nobody Special, throwing the lynch off of himself and onto a confirmed Townie...who, guess what, flipped Town.

Also, this is the most damning scumslip of the game (BRAND NEW EVIDENCE!):

Uite has had SO MUCH time to hammer you and

end the game

, and that fact alone confirms him as town.

Zepher knows that hammering me will win the game for him and his buddy.

1. I stated exactly what the two were
a watch and a doc protect

2. He was not a confirmed townie

3. Don't strawman me. This was said in the hypothetical that Silver and Uite were the scum team (if you forget, silver also has his vote on you)
I know that hammering you and you being town will end the game, regardless of whether or not I'm the last scum or not.

Again, you're struggling to find adequate evidence to pin me as scum.

[Pine]

No, you're ignoring or dismissing perfectly good evidence.

Additionally, cop clear + dead GF + not SK = Confirmed Town. You, sir, are a liar.

[Pine]

Additionally, though I will stipulate that I probably just missed your 1-shot Doc claim, the fact remains that you consistently claimed three until it was no longer convenient to do so.

[MrZepher]

I claimed 3 once, maybe twice, and I've already stated my reasoning for claiming 3 without actually claiming what the third action was.

I tried really hard to do everything I could to draw the night kill, and I feel like it was very scummy that I was role blocked just in the way the things were supposed to happen.

[Pine]

I feel lying to us and using a Townie as a human shield was scummy.

[silverbullet999]

Actually I did. If you look at mu posting history, you can see that I was online after MrZepher's vote. I didn't have a lot of time, and I was still debating what to do, so I didn't post.

Too lazy to check but it's proven now at the least (Though that doesn't necessarily force you to be town >:D Ala Pine-Uite team is a possibility however low or high I do not know)

[MrZepher]

I... don't think I find Pine/Uite to be very logical, but considering Uite's been lurking up a storm all game I'll take a look back.

I mean... I never had any sort of gut indication that Uite could be scum so I've pursued the possibility.

[Pine]

I... don't think I find Pine/Uite to be very logical, but considering Uite's been lurking up a storm all game I'll take a look back.

I mean... I never had any sort of gut indication that Uite could be scum so I've pursued the possibility.

It isn't logical. We're both Town.

[MrZepher]

Only one of you is town.
I'm leaning towards Uite. Scum Uite would have hammered already.

[silverbullet999]

I'm saying it's a possibility is all. I'm only certain of Pine at this point.

[MrZepher]

V/LA: Till Monday afternoon

Mod already knows, I''m just letting you all in on the plan.

[nhammen]

Given that if Uite was scum and Pine was town, Uite would have hammered, Uite can only be scum if Pine is scum. If Uite is town, this leaves three players: Pine, Zepher, and Silver.
Thus, the possible scum combinations are Pine/Uite, Pine/Zepher, Pine/Silver, and Zepher/Silver. I will now do an in-depth reread of each of these four possibilities to determine which are likely and which are not. Note that only one possibility does not contain Pine. Thus it is most likely the case that it is Pine that is scum. However, I would prefer not to vote until completing my analysis.

[MrZepher]

Given that if Uite was scum and Pine was town, Uite would have hammered, Uite can only be scum if Pine is scum. If Uite is town, this leaves three players: Pine, Zepher, and Silver.
Thus, the possible scum combinations are Pine/Uite, Pine/Zepher, Pine/Silver, and Zepher/Silver. I will now do an in-depth reread of each of these four possibilities to determine which are likely and which are not. Note that only one possibility does not contain Pine. Thus it is most likely the case that it is Pine that is scum. However, I would prefer not to vote until completing my analysis.

I like you.
You're cool.

[Pine]

Suck up a little more, Zepher. We all (and by that I mean me, the dead QT, the mod, and apparently no one else) know that it behooves you to encourage without qualification those who agree on your one real point. You only need one Townie to vote with you.

...Which thought just completed the game for me. It is only possible for Zepher and Silver to be scum together. Scum would have hammered by now I there was one outside that pair. Choose correctly and this is a Town win in the bag.

[silverbullet999]

Dead QT? Care to expand on this?

[Uite]

Sorry guys, I'm going to be v/la until probably Sunday.

[Pine]

Dead QT? Care to expand on this?

Are you dense?

Scum choose who they take into LyLo. They weed out those who are on the right track and those who have a clue, and leave the people who are advocating a mislynch. This is the case here.

The extreme speed with which Silver and Zepher voted is indicative of scum confidence, not Town caution. Town wouldn't ever dare to rush like that. The caution of Uite and nham is exemplary Town behavior, but they've obviously been left alive for their dearth of strong reads.

I'm the scum mislynch planned for the win. Double vote me early, and all they have to do is convince one person. The final vote in LyLo is easy, but putting someone to L-1 is risky. They've taken care of that. Commendable strategy, really.

[silverbullet999]

I'm not connecting what a dead qt has to do with any of what you said.

Also why did it take you so long to come to the realization that from you being a "townie", me and zeph must have been a scum pair.

[Uite]

The extreme speed with which Silver and Zepher voted is indicative of scum confidence, not Town caution.

Town wouldn't ever dare to rush like that.

The caution of Uite and nham is exemplary Town behavior, but they've obviously been left alive for their dearth of strong reads.

(emphasis mine)

First vote of Day 5:

Pine

. Thanks for claiming.

[Pine]

Town wouldn't rush to L-1 like that, Uite. A single vote can be moved if the response to it looks suspicious. Silver and Zepher had a plan.