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[Surye]

ITT people claim asinine things and we just beleive them.

VOTE: PeregrineV

How is that claim asinine in an open setup game?

[sorasgoof]

Okay, VOTE: Vezok.

I read through the last few pages, and I don't like Vezok's posting whatsoever. I haven't liked it all game. Also...

I'll tick that as a scumslip for you, but I don't consider it such a big of a deal.

You consider it a scumslip, but it's not a big deal? I'm not following. A scumslip should be the biggest deal ever. If you think he slipped, why aren't you voting him?

[vezokpiraka]

Okay, VOTE: Vezok.

I read through the last few pages, and I don't like Vezok's posting whatsoever. I haven't liked it all game. Also...

I'll tick that as a scumslip for you, but I don't consider it such a big of a deal.

You consider it a scumslip, but it's not a big deal? I'm not following. A scumslip should be the biggest deal ever. If you think he slipped, why aren't you voting him?

It's something that both town and scum could say. Usually scum use it more than town.

[vezokpiraka]

I want to hear what you think about appearing town. Where do townies fit in with that theory? What should townies be doing that's different from what scum does acting town? I'm not disagreeing with it, but I want to hear your personal stance.

Townies don't need to "act" town; they have the advantage of authenticity, so their actions should speak for themselves. Scum must try to blend in and feign authenticity. If they do not, they immediately exude their scumminess, as it appears vezokpiraka is doing.

I may be wrong -- I was wrong about earworm -- but we won't know until vezokpiraka is forced to defend himself.

I'm not sure who vezokpiraka's partners might be -- although Amrun does jump out as a candidate -- and I don't want to stumble into the pitfall of guessing scum teams before anyone flips scum. My suspicion of him being protected is in the general sense in that (nearly) everyone is ignoring the case on vezokpiraka (except me and Surye so far). Everyone else's inaction allows scum inaction to blend in.

Let me understand. I am scum , because I don't act townie, but townies don't have to act townie because they are authentic.

Do you see the problem in that statement?

[Empking]

Vote Count 30

Cobblerfone
Pine
Nocmen
TheMask (3) - Cobblerfone, Amrun, vezokprika
Amrun
Surye
jilynne1991 (1) - TheMask
vezokprika (4) - Ironhead, Surye, PeregrineV, sorasgoof
earworm
chkflip (1) - jilynne1991
PeregrineV (1) - Pine,
Ironhead
sorasgoof

Not Voting: chkflip, earworm, Nocmen

With 13 alive, its 7 to lynch.

[Pine]

Gah. Preemptive prod dodge. In regard to people telling me how to vote, I need to do some catch up and re-familiarize myself with this game.

[Ironhead]

Let me understand. I am scum , because I don't act townie, but townies don't have to act townie because they are authentic.

Your perceived scumminess is not related to "because [you] don't act townie;" your scumminess derives from your poor play in general, including shameless and unprincipled vote-hopping today. The way you are acting reinforces this scum-read; not because you are acting unauthentic (like a scum trying to appear town), but because you are acting like an authentic scum (like a scum who doesn't care that he is acting scummy).

[vezokpiraka]

Let me understand. I am scum , because I don't act townie, but townies don't have to act townie because they are authentic.

Your perceived scumminess is not related to "because [you] don't act townie;" your scumminess derives from your poor play in general, including shameless and unprincipled vote-hopping today. The way you are acting reinforces this scum-read; not because you are acting unauthentic (like a scum trying to appear town), but because you are acting like an authentic scum (like a scum who doesn't care that he is acting scummy).

You think I'm scum that doesn't care he's acting scummy?

Why am I not town doesn't care he's acting scummy?

[Cobblerfone]

I'm 90% sure that vezok is town. However it doesn't really look like either wagon is really taking off.

I don't really like the vote on a claimed power role by chkflip, since we can keep an eye on him. And even if Peregrine is mafia the serial killer could take care of him. The same goes if he's the SK with the mafia. (Though admittedly it's POSSIBLE that a scum faction is already wiped out). Personally, I'm going to wait for chkflip's response to Surye.

[Amrun]

Ironheadn have you checked out vezok's other games?

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I was just going to say that I think vezok is town based on his meta and all that, but then I realized I've never seen him play as scum. Anyone care to link me to a few games you've played with him as scum or something. (I'm asking for that, so I can get a better meta on 2 people.)

Also, I don't usually use meta, but I just realized if I have a background of how everybody plays, it probably is useful.

[vezokpiraka]

V/LA until the 9th

[Empking]

Earworm will be prodded

[earworm]

:/ I said I was V/la.

Anyways reading up now. First impressions are 1) not liking vezok wagon right now and 2) thinking chkflip is better. Better post will be up later.

[Amrun]

Chkflip might actually be a better wagon, since everyone won't join me on mask.

VOTE: Chkflip

[jilynne1991]

Somehow, I'm not seeing Chkflip as scum...I'll read up on his iso though.

[jilynne1991]

What the heck. No wonder I didn't see chkflip as scummy.

Ok, but seriously? Lynching someone for inactivity sucks.

[Nocmen]

jil: You voted C-worl, yet you don't think of chk as scummy?

Pedit: I see that changed a bit. But seriously, you had the vote on C-worl, and now reluctant for chk?

I'm okay with pressuring to get posts from chk.

Vote: Chkflip

[jilynne1991]

Oh...it looks like I'm having double standards...One second, I can't believe I honestly voted someone just for inactivity. Also, when you say you're just pressuring, doesn't that take most of the pressure off???

[jilynne1991]

LOL...was just trying to figure out how C-Worl connected with chkflip, until I suddenly realized. Ok, my brain's getting a little hazy...hmmm, I think working with a headache isn't a good idea. Anyways, I totally forgot he replaced in.

I can see chkflip as scum. VOTE: chkflip

[Cobblerfone]

@empking: chkflip has gone past 72 hours hasn't he? Have you prodded him?

[Ironhead]

Ironheadn have you checked out vezok's other games?

No. How does his vote-hopping in this one compare to previous games where he was town? How does it compare to when he was scum?

[earworm]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chkflip

Did anyone else notice Monk reads=Amrun reads and just not comment on it because it's not worth it?

Fully explain why you think this is scummy. Why would scum just copy the same reads as their predeseccor. In other words, where is the scum motivation for doing what she did?

@The Mask- Care to consider changing your vote?

[Empking]

Just a reminder that its deadline in three days. Prods are going out.

[chkflip]

Prod response. My personal life has been outrageous. I promise to post some greatness in the next post since life has finally gotten a little more normalcy.