Any Band U-Pick (Town Wins)

[nintendoaddict1]

I have said this many times before, but why the HELL do I get only one e-mail? Guess I missed it a couple days ago, but I'm all caught up now. Anyway, EPM is looking bad. I'mma give him some L-1age.

Unvote, Vote: EPM

[CryMeARiver]

I'm here for the hammer, but I'd rather finish my reread.

[Furry]

Wow this wagon is ugly

unvote
Vote Parabollics

Correct lynch is still ToD or Diddin, but its hard to get more incorrect then EPM.

[AntB]

@Juls
Not always true, look at the UK Government.... *ba-dum tss!*
You three strike me as being pretty similar in your goals today

Look, I am very close to replacing out due to the venomous anger I am getting my way for no fucking reason.

I haven't seen much venomous anger aimed at you, but if you feel the need to ragequit.. O/

[Trumpet of Doom]

Response to things after post

442

441 coming tomorrow.

That's probably true in some timezones... (goddamnit why did I agree to replace into a large, especially one on D1)

epm's claim doesn't do a whole lot to convince me he doesn't need to die; if any of my townreads that are on the wagon specifically ask for me to join it (or if deadline starts getting close and he's still a viable wagon), I'll hop on.

I disagree, that role (as well as tracker) are two of the most underestimated roles in the game.

If they are played and claimed right, town would win more games.

And this is different from every other town-aligned role how?

I'm not denying that dayvig's a powerful role in the right hands, I just think that assigning as much power to it as you seem to be is probably overestimating it.

You are rediculous. I guarentee you if you have actually "caught" someone for trying too hard, you got lucky and probably only got them lynched because they did something ELSE scummy. It would be like me catching someone for being the first one to cast a second vote on a player, sure im going to get lucky and catch scum at times, but more like then not im going to approach scum populus percentage. Its a crappy tell that for some reason has caught on and gotten mixed up with aspects of active lurking so a few think it is valid.

I've used it four times in the past, and three of them have been scum. That may not be a large sample size, but you'd think I'd have been wrong more than once if it wasn't a legit tell. (For the curious: Petr in Newbie 889, peanutman in Mini 912, and RICO ACT in Newbie 1089 were all scum, while DreadKnight in Mewbie 915 was town; if you care enough to look, you can make the extra click to go to my wiki page.) And for the record, I wasn't actually able to get any of them

lynched

, though I did get close on two of them.

Is it a foolproof tell? No, of course not, there's no such thing. Townies do scummy things all the time.
Is it better than random? Damn straight it is. All scum need to try to look town; if townies are trying to look town, they're Doing It Wrong.

You say "before I got my role" he read as scum, which should mean that he no longer reads as scum.

...Nice quote mining there, sir. (WARNING WARNING LINK GOES TO TVTROPES) The entire sentence was something like (italics added) "

Now I remember why

I thought you were scum earlier," or in other words, "As I was rereading the first part of the game, I wasn't finding much scummy, but this thing that I'm commenting on is scummy."

Gaoth 473: The important part here is that the posts in question feel

forced

. "Happy" is merely what about them feels forced.
(I wouldn't have noticed this if I hadn't looked at Newbie 915 just a little while ago, but post 473 feels a lot like some of the things one of the scum asked me in that game. My scumdar is getting noisier about you.)

Last line of Powerrox 481: This is setting off major alarm bells.

Juls/Groundsel/TS business: Obviously, TS joining as an alt is a nulltell. The reason he gave seems a bit -worthy, but that in and of itself doesn't make it lynchworthy. I can kinda see what Juls is getting at with "he lied when I called him out on it, lynchlynchlynch," but I don't know what kind of a reputation TS has/thinks he has that CMAR's idea about "he didn't want people to judge him based on his main" might be accurate.

Powerrox 554: Can I see this experience, please? More than one game would be ideal.

Juls 560:

several of ToD's initial reads are similar to mine so I like his way of thinking. I would like him to look at the two instances I quoted of Nintendo-town and tell me how he can read those and think Nintendo is scum.

Basically, I don't think that they necessarily

have

to come from town. Whatever you're seeing that makes the posts so very obvtown, I don't see it... help?
166: I may be biased here, but I think it's not impossible that he could be scum trying to get a townie (or hell, if Furry is for some reason town, maybe two) lynched/vigged.
194: Total nulltell, AFAICT.
Also, regardless of alignment, nintendo needs to die before LyLo, since if he's town and makes it that far, he'll probably be a very inviting mislynch target. Y/N?

I can pretty much guarantee I won't be looking at this thread tomorrow, as I have two concerts tomorrow.

[Nikanor]

GUYS. CANADA DAY IS OVER.
I'm gonna catch up and stuff now.

[diddin]

Look, I am very close to replacing out due to the venomous anger I am getting my way for no fucking reason. I am really getting sick of it.

diddin, I have shown you over and over again. I don't know what you want from me if this isn't for the daykill then what is it for?

The band claim bullshit, that's what.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Band claim was absolutely a pro-town thing.

[CryMeARiver]

Band claim was absolutely a pro-town thing.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

It gives the scum a negligible amount of information while reducing their ability to fake claim appreciably (want to claim doc? well shucks, none of the band's songs make sense as a protective role)

[CryMeARiver]

It gives the scum a negligible amount of information while reducing their ability to fake claim appreciably (want to claim doc? well shucks, none of the band's songs make sense as a protective role)

...Any intelligent scum in that situation would choose a popular band with many songs or would have thought of that before. I think it served as more of a distraction.

[CryMeARiver]

It gives the scum a negligible amount of information while reducing their ability to fake claim appreciably (want to claim doc? well shucks, none of the band's songs make sense as a protective role)

...Any intelligent scum in that situation would choose a popular band with many songs or would have thought of that before. I think it served as more of a distraction.

EDIT: However, I don't personally find the idea scum driven.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

And risk getting counterclaimed? I think the natural impulse for scum here is to just claim truthfully anyway, even if it's not the optimal move.

[CryMeARiver]

And risk getting counterclaimed? I think the natural impulse for scum here is to just claim truthfully anyway, even if it's not the optimal move.

Exactly. I still don't think it narrows claims down in the least. Songs can be twisted to mean many things and bands have many songs.

[gorilla]

It probably doesn't make very much difference and quibbling over it won't help much.

[Nikanor]

First of all, I know I'm just Nikadorable, but the second-last consonant in my name is an N, not a D (here's looking at you, Reg).

Juls, do you dislike Spoony or something? Being secretive about your main account is not a scum-tell by any means.
Plus, Groundspoony is town.

So what we have now is this:
DH, Reg, CMAR, Pine, CSL, Seraphim, Furry, ToD, Groundsel and CES are all probably town. That's half the people, so if we don't lynch any of these people we'll probably win.
I still think that nintendo is scum, but he's not going to get lynched today, so.
I'm not considering hammering EPM because I don't think that he would have included "I was thinking of PR gambitting but decided not to" in his claim as scum.
Parabollocks is scum for using too many ellipses in 286.

Unvote. Vote: Parabollocks.

[nintendoaddict1]

Parabollocks is scum for using too many ellipses in 286.

Unvote. Vote: Parabollocks.

24 pages in and you decide to use RVS logic? No.

[Nikanor]

It's not RVS logic. It's a sound tell. The logic is that a person who uses ellipses in a post is attempting to look hesitant or confused. Scum have much more reason to fake these conditions, so using ellipses is scummy.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Juls, you should get on the Parabollockswagon.

[CryMeARiver]

It's not RVS logic. It's a sound tell. The logic is that a person who uses ellipses in a post is attempting to look hesitant or confused. Scum have much more reason to fake these conditions, so using ellipses is scummy.

I like this guy.

And he used a portmanteau with nikadorable. Awesome.

[CSL]

Limited Access for July 4th

[Furry]

It's not RVS logic. It's a sound tell. The logic is that a person who uses ellipses in a post is attempting to look hesitant or confused. Scum have much more reason to fake these conditions, so using ellipses is scummy.

Yeah this is like the smiley tell. If they dont normally use them, its actually an effective minor tell... again only if they arent normally used, so I would need to check up and see if he does that in other game though. As far as I know though, im one of the few people who spam ellipses in every game.

[Nikanor]

Wheeeee.

Even if he did spam ellipses as much as you do, Furry, using a million fricking dots in one post would still be scummy.

[Trumpet of Doom]

This is a wagon I can get behind.

Unvote; Vote: Parabollocks.

[evilpacman18]

Oooooh loving Nikanor's latest posts. It's always great to see reads based on grammar. It's more important than people think.