Mini 1179: Paranoia Mafia

[LobsterCatapult]

sorry guys, ive been a bit busy, and ill be V/LA till tuesday for fourth of july vacation. i dont think my beach house has internet

well, i have to admit, at first i thought that vezok was town with claiming SK, i didnt see any scum motivation behind it, however, i dont understand why vezok just didnt claim vt earlier. also, looking over his reasoning now, on glass, im beginning to question the town read i had on vezok before hand.

@vezok why do you think cooldog is scum? why do you think glass is scum?

[CooLDoG]

^good question... I wonder if vezo will ever explain his reads.

Correction, he cared very much - when he thought she was a vig, the most powerful town PR.

^That was only after he realized she was in fact the "vig". He he showed no interest in the fact that she could have been town (or in his mind, was town).

UNVOTE:
VOTE: umbrage
I have had enough of your bullshit.

The "going for an easy target" attack is just lame since I would consider half the players here "easy lynches".

'I'm attacking Y who is not an easy lynch'

Notice the similarity?

No, because there is NO similarity. In my quote I said that you attacking me for accusing an easy lynch is lame.
In your quote you're saying that if someone said that they were attacking someone who is NOT an easy lynch they would be scummy. These are two completely different things.

The question that you asked LC? Didn't know I was supposed to answer that.

That was to LC? Oh yeah. So why the hell are we talking about it?

You brought it up as an attack against me. You attacking me for not answering a question that you posed LC shows that you did not even realize what the hell you were talking about.

Remember this? When you LIED, hoping nobody would remember back to D2?

Too bad for you, but anyone can read back and see the truth. Only vezokpiraka had expressed suspicion of LLD before I launched my attack, making the above quote a LIE. A LIE that you're now desperately trying to cover up. But I'm onto you now.

Well, why don't you explain this "lie" then? I see no lie at all, except you saying that I lied.

OK, so let me get this straight...

IS expresses suspicion of nopoint.

IS is killed and flips town.

You think nopoint is scum when you previously thought him town the day before.

And yet this has NOTHING TO DO with the fact that the ONLY person who suspected him wound up dead?

Correct. And IS was not the ONLY person. Have you forgotten surye?

I declare Umbridge the winner. Can we lynch glass now?

Correction, he cared very much - when he thought she was a vig, the most powerful town PR.

Except... LLD never expressed suspicion of me. Judging by day 2 it seems as though she would have shot IS if she lived to the night. Why would I be worried about that if I were scum?

And here comes the omgus. I think we can all agree that this is today's lynch...

[Umbrage]

Yeah, Glass is scum. I'm not going to respond to his latest "argument". If the best he can do is go NO UR RONG, then I don't see any point in continuing discussion.

[Glass]

If the best he can do is go NO UR RONG, then I don't see any point in continuing discussion.

Wow umbrage. Just wow. Not even going to answer this?

Well, why don't you explain this "lie" then? I see no lie at all, except you saying that I lied.

@Cooldog
You still have yet to answer my question as to why vezok lurker is scum but surye lurker is town.

[ThAdmiral]

I'm still here, but have been smashed by work and assignments recently. I'll read up and post.

Sorry about the absence.

[CooLDoG]

Have I ever said that surye is town? I actually haven't talked much about surye.... Vezo is more scummy because he throws his vote around with no reasons, surye hasn't voted. Both, however, have yet to produce real content. And I interpret surye's lack of content as scummy, yes. But vezo is not only lacking content but also voting without reasons.

[Umbrage]

UNVOTE: Glass

His reactions look like genuine town to me. Fuck. Back to square one, I guess.

[CooLDoG]

^Don't bail out on me man. You actually think that him omgusing you is a town reaction? *snif, snif* Do I smell a scum bus?

[CooLDoG]

Also: Sniff actually has two "f" s. I did not know that...

[Umbrage]

OMGUS isn't a scumtell, not like this. Scum attack people they think they can get lynched. Town attack people they think are scummy. Glass is reacting to my case against him. If you know you are town, you automatically assume that anyone who says you're scum is purposefully lying.

[ThAdmiral]

UNVOTE: Glass

His reactions look like genuine town to me. Fuck. Back to square one, I guess.

Back to square cooldog, you mean.

What was it that made his reactions look genuine. The only thing that makes me think twice about glass is him voting you which would be suicide if he was scum. It's still a dumb move for town but probably more likely.

[ThAdmiral]

@ cooldog: fyi vezok ALWAYS lurks and ALWAYS looks like scum. In fact this game is probably the towniest he has ever looked (which may mean he actually is scum but I don't want to open up that can of worms).

[nopointinactingup]

@no point. I had a jail keep. I didn't jk umbridge. If that is insider information then yes I have it.

Glass is scummy for ignoring the LLD wagon because he didn't care if she got lynched. Simple as that. He only cares about surviving and lynching town.

1> Nobody mentioned anything about you jk-ing Umbrage, yet you try to justify. It sounds like insider info to me.
2> If she cares only about lynching town and is scum then why didn't she push the LLD's?

Glass is scummy for ignoring the LLD wagon because he didn't care if she got lynched. Simple as that. He only cares about surviving and lynching town.

I did not ignore the wagon because I "didn't care if she got lynched",

I ignored it because I thought she was town

.

Lol? You think she is town yet you don't defend her? Look at ThAd.

I think that vezok or

nopoint is likely cooldog's partner

.

Mega Lol??

have we ever discussed the probability that cooldog indeed got his "vote block" (to vote block LLD with) from actually entering "worried" status? d2?

this looks really suspicious. i know that flipped SK and def was not town, but im beginning to wonder if in fact cooldog was as scum, bold enough to vote block his Lynchee of choice d2.

fos: cooldog

As much as I love your FoS, I can't understand what you are saying here. The thing that bugs me the most about CoolDog is that he's been ignoring me/ not giving reads about me. It makes it really hard to read his reactions against my pressure

Reads change umbrage. I did think that nopoint was town, but his constant attacks on cooldog with little to no scumhunting anywhere else smells of a bus to me, not to mention his "insider information" attack is incredibly lame. The "going for an easy target" attack is just lame since I would consider half the players here "easy lynches".

I've stated my town reads. And of all of the others, I find CoolDog most likely to flip scum, then why shouldn't I be pushing his lynch? You were attacking CoolDog yourself, is that also a bus I'm smelling? It sounds to me like you're setting me up after the inevitable ScumDog lynch

UNVOTE: Glass

His reactions look like genuine town to me. Fuck. Back to square one, I guess.

How?? Glass is super scum-like defensive

[vezokpiraka]

v/la until the 9th

[CooLDoG]

@No point. I think you mis understand what I'm saying about the JK. That is the only "inside information" I have. All that I know is that I JKed glass. And during the day I vote blocked LLD. And if you read the thread you should know why I think glass is scum. Catch up Before posting next time.

Lets look at Vezok...

Warning: A player is at L-1. Please be careful with your votes.

Occult [L-2] - Glass, Surye, Umbrage, Internet Stranger, vezokpiraka, CooLDoG,

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Occult lynch wagon.

Why Vezo voted for Occult:

unvote
vote occult

He is a very bad scum. He lied backpedaled and did lots of scummy stuff.

Lady Lambdadelta [L-DEAD] - vezokpiraka, Umbrage, Internet Stranger, Surye, Glass, CooLDoG,

The LLD wagon

Why vezok thought LLD was scum:

unvote
vote LLD

Her fight with IS is not a tvt.; It's a scum vs town fight.

I'll bet she is the scum.

Not lack of quoting or clarification on why its not tvt. And whi IS is not scum and why LLD is...

I would post a vote count of the wagon that I just went through, but the mod hasn't posted one...

Vezok's CooLDoG vote:

Cdog is still scum.

unvote
vote cdog

LLD flips SK so there wasn't even bussing there,

Relevant post:.

What is with our status?

Is there any possibility that we have death millers?

Cdog is scum for the way he posts. He's OMGUSING me because I'm voting him. He doesn't try to defend. Just get people off his wagon.

If you want to know about my "OMGUS" then go back and read my posts... Not worth getting into a huge quote wall.

This can't be Mylo.

We lynched correctly one day.
We should have another mislynch at hand.

Glass shoots up the scum list for saying no lynch and wins a

vote glass

Assuming 3 scum it is 5/3. Lynch wrong: 4/3 going into night. Night kill goes through 3/3. However, (Nopoint had better fucking read this) I highly doubt that there is in fact a 3 scum setup. Lynching "right" and lynching scum are differnt things.


Conclusion Vezo is scummy as hell. I want to keep my vote on glass until it becomes apparent that his wagon is dead.

[CooLDoG]

comma needs to be after conclusion. My bad.

[ThAdmiral]

@ cooldog: fyi vezok ALWAYS lurks and ALWAYS looks like scum. In fact this game is probably the towniest he has ever looked (which may mean he actually is scum but I don't want to open up that can of worms).

[CooLDoG]

^so we are now going to use silly meta arguments to defend our partner? Sounds like fun. Just because the player has acted scummy before and flipped town DOES NOT mean he isn't scum right now. Link me to a game where using meta alone (which is the argument you are using) has lynched scum.... Stop defending vezok and start scum hunting.

[ThAdmiral]

I have, and I found you.

[CooLDoG]

Link to a game where you have used only meta to find scum, or prove that someone was in fact town. Meta alone.

unvote, vote: vezo

[LobsterCatapult]

back from vla
reading up now

[ThAdmiral]

Link to a game where you have used only meta to find scum, or prove that someone was in fact town. Meta alone.

In cold war mafia I correctly figured out furc was town via meta, highlighted in post 361.

[LobsterCatapult]

Link to a game where you have used only meta to find scum, or prove that someone was in fact town. Meta alone.

unvote, vote: vezo

why are you voting vezo here?

[ThAdmiral]

^^ he made a case against him.

[Glass]

Sorry I haven't been around, summer job started and blah blah...

Content post when I am not about to fall asleep