Mini Normal 1187: Game Over

[Heliman]

Well, he has dude with an intent to hammer him now, the little weasel doesn't have much of an excuse to not claim at this point.

[xvart]

Ok then Xvart, are you the Mason? You can save us a mislynch right now if you claim.

This is exactly what I was getting at. Heliman - are you concerned at all about the people that wanted a quick lynch in light of there being mason out there unclaimed? And for the record, Barry. I only claim when there is an intent to hammer.

Something else to think about is Ace. I really doubt that scum Foilist would bring a scum partner into the fold as a fake claim when one of his partners already had an unsustainable fake claim out there. That would just be suicide and torpedo the entire town. I really believe it was all a setup so that if Foilist flipped it would incriminate Ace; which another thing to bank on in LYLO. Since it came out early the gambit failed, as Foilist said.

In the coming days be very careful about quick hammers since that is what the scum team is hoping for. Lynch nintendo tomorrow, then mass claim. I am 95% confident I know who the other mason is.

I am a Vanilla Townie. Drop your hammer.

[Heliman]

VOTE: xvart See you tomorrow folks. I'm going back to bed.

[xvart]

It was fun while it lasted...

[Scumhunter]

xvart, I apologize if you are town. I agree that a sensor is very powerful and it doesn't make much sense that he lived. However, Bob was pretty much 100% confirmed town though and people suspected nintendo yesterday so I think it is possible that you-scum didn't fully consider the consequences of letting the sensor live for another day. If you are town, I apologize.

I suppose technically lynching nintendo (and him flipping town) would confirm you scum and vice-versa so meh. It might actually be safer to lynch nintendo, as the worst case scenario for us here is nintendo-scum and we ML you today...

[xvart]

Scumhunter - it's no problem. Once he claimed his fake result I knew I was dead; I just had to buy some time to get as much info out as I could. I'm just glad I'm not the mason. I'll be interested to see post game if Sensor is even considered a "normal" role.

And last thing, for whoever accused me of being scummy for suggesting a mod error, it is a completely justifiable response since the absolute worst possible scenario is if nintendo was town and got a wrong number in the pm or misread or looked at yesterday's pm instead resulting in two dead townies. Since I've given him the opportunity to check, tomorrow he won't be able to say "whoops, I read N1's pm on accident!!!!", not that anyone would buy that. It is an unlikely scenario but I'd rather rule out any outliers.

[Barry Allen]

xvart, I am sorry if you flip town. But, if that's so, then we do know where our votes need to go tomorrow.

[pappums rat]

Vote Count 3.2 (Final vote count of Day 3)

xvart - 5 (nintendoaddict1, Barry Allen, hiplop, Scumhunter, Heliman)
nintendoaddict1 - 2 (ace5993, Valern)

Not voting - xvart, Giitah

xvart, Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 3.

Please have all night actions to me by 1 P.M. on Monday, July 4 or it will not count.

[pappums rat]

Heliman, Town Mason

, was shot Night 3.

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is 2 P.M. on Monday, July 18, 2011.

Day 4 begins now.

[Barry Allen]

Heliman was the person I tracked last night, and as you can guess he didn't visit anyone. This leaves us with what I truly believe are two scum left. One we know, so let's get that vote out of the way...

VOTE: Nintendo

The other may be found in this post...

xvart, I apologize if you are town. I agree that a sensor is very powerful and it doesn't make much sense that he lived. However, Bob was pretty much 100% confirmed town though and people suspected nintendo yesterday so I think it is possible that you-scum didn't fully consider the consequences of letting the sensor live for another day. If you are town, I apologize.

I suppose technically lynching nintendo (and him flipping town) would confirm you scum and vice-versa so meh.

It might actually be safer to lynch nintendo

, as the worst case scenario for us here is nintendo-scum and we ML you today...

This post was made

after the hammer had happened, and with scumhunter's vote on xvart

. WHY say after the fact that "It might actually be safer to lynch nintendo" when you voted for him, and you waited until AFTER the hammer to say this?

My FoS: Scumhunter

[hiplop]

VOTE: nintendo

Obvious scum.

[hiplop]

its gotta be ace/foilist/nintendo..

[Barry Allen]

@ scumhunter - you and I both posted messages indicating we were sorry if the vote turned out wrong. That's not unusual in these rounds. What IS unusual is that your post reads almost as if you

weren't one of the people who voted for the lynch

. In fact,

you seem to be making an argument against the lynch after the hammer but before the results were known

. Please explain yourself.

[nintendoaddict1]

@ scumhunter - you and I both posted messages indicating we were sorry if the vote turned out wrong. That's not unusual in these rounds. What IS unusual is that your post reads almost as if you

weren't one of the people who voted for the lynch

. In fact,

you seem to be making an argument against the lynch after the hammer but before the results were known

. Please explain yourself.

wtf... xvart was supposed to be scum...

[Barry Allen]

Again, nintendo...

1. Scumhunter voted for xvart (as did I and a majority of players). BUT
2. His post almost ignores his own vote to say we should have lynche you (nintendo) and that the worst case scenario is you living and us ML'ing Xvart.

Sooooo, why was he on the lynch if he believed that? Why make this argument AFTER the hammer fell instead of changing his vote and trying to change the town's perception? That's what I'm asking scumhunter to explain. I could be missing something, but this post really hit me wrong.

[nintendoaddict1]

I think I know what happened, though. There must be a Framer who was on xvart N2.

In any case, 1 scum on the xvart wagon.

[Barry Allen]

*ahem* A framer would only work in regard to a cop report. There WAS no cop report, as we don't seem to have a cop. We used YOUR math, nintendo, which left only two possibilities: that xvart was scum or that you were lying and therefore scum. Your report is no longer useful, helpful, or believable.

[Giitah]

It's not necessary for me to say I told you so at this point, is it?

Nintendo, your attempts at trying to justify yourself are pathetic. It's a failed gambit, now drop the act.

[nintendoaddict1]

It's not necessary for me to say I told you so at this point, is it?

Nintendo, your attempts at trying to justify yourself are pathetic. It's a failed gambit, now drop the act.

It's not an act, I seriously don't know what happened.

[Barry Allen]

What happened is you posted a case based on simple math. It left no room for error. The only way for you to be town would be for both you and us to be complete failures as town. Frankly, we may be a fail town based on the way we've played most of the round (including me)...but based on your own case from yesterday I think you're simply scum. Vote stays.

[Giitah]

Vote Nintendo

Use tonight to go investigate everyone left alive. Valern, we need input from you.

Nintendo's at L-1, for anyone interested.

[Giitah]

Hold up, never mind, I take that back. Would anyone else be in favour of making arguments now and shit like that so tomorrow, even if someone's dead we still have their input?

unvote

[Valern]

Why the hell did we not lynch nintendo yesterday?

VOTE: Nintendo

But for the lolz:

Nintendo, did you get any results last night?

[nintendoaddict1]

In any case, 1 scum on the xvart wagon.

@ Valern ^

[nintendoaddict1]

Oh, and by the way:

Self-hammer