RISE OF THE UNICORN BRETHREN

[ReaperCharlie]

Mountainous = get rid of random second weapon

Mafia Scum = Mafia only (1 life for all no last man standing)

Mafia SK = Mafia and SK (1 life and there is a last man standing)

Mafia Cult = Mafia only in game and it can cult (2 lifes for all no last man standing)

Mafia Cult SK = Mafia in game and it can cult, SK there too (2 life and there is a last man standing)

I will likly make them all since I have lots of space on my Xbox, but perhaps I will only put the basic version on my file share. That way whoever is party lead can be the mod and make the listed changes here in the game options before starting the game. Hmm mod with closed setup...)

Criticize X values before tomorrow please!

Can you make it so that in the Mafia Cult and Mafia Cult SK games that there's only 2 lives for townies, but one life for Mafia?

That game would go VERY VERY fast against townies, if the Alpha Zombies (mafia) had 2 lives as well.

Man, if there was a way to differentiate between KILL and RECRUIT as well, that'd be fantastic! Hmmmmmm

[PokerFace]

I believe there is a 10 meter radar setting I can give town. real low and not too helpful in my book

mountainous would be radar off

you could diferentiate kill and recruit by giving recruits or all players a certain color but i feel true mafia wouldn't have any easily seen appearance issues.

Alphas due have magnums so someone who was town and got a magnum at random would be like a miller.

[PokerFace]

sorry can only give all players same number of lives. can't give some people 2 and some people 1

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, I'm pretty sure you can straight up turn radar off for certain groups.

The 10 radar is pretty low, yeah, but it still completely ruins sneak attacks.

I would keep the scum's radar at 25, and put the town's to OFF entirely.

75 seems good in practice, but overall I'd say it's actually pretty useless.

[ReaperCharlie]

sorry can only give all players same number of lives. can't give some people 2 and some people 1

Ah, boo.

Well, scratch that idea.

[PokerFace]

without radar there is no way town can tell who is scum and who is not. no appearance changes can be seen via town so unless they shoot at you or you see their magnums you got nothing. You get reads in normal mafia yes? well thats why I figure they should get some radar in order to get reads

[ReaperCharlie]

without radar there is no way town can tell who is scum and who is not.

EXACTLY.

[ReaperCharlie]

no appearance changes can be seen via town so unless they shoot at you or you see their magnums you got nothing. You get reads in normal mafia yes? well thats why I figure they should get some radar in order to get reads

If you really want you can change their armor color.

But NO radar. I will stand by that.

[tanstalas]

What time is the "Goodbye Fritz" marathon starting? I am sure it was mentioned, but too lazy to go back and read.

[Fritzler]

I'll be on whenever I get off work, which hopefully around 5 pacific time, bu it will probably be later.

[AGar]

I may not get on until 7:30 pacific time, but I plan on being up half the night.

[Flameaxe]

I'm off Thursday...so I'll probably be drinking while I Halo.

[tanstalas]

I'm off Thursday...so I'll probably be drinking while I Halo.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm off Thursday...so I'll probably be drinking while I Halo.

I'm off Thursday/Friday... so I'll probably be drinking while I drink. No Halo for me though.

[Fritzler]

I'm off Thursday...so I'll probably be drinking while I Halo.

I have work on Thursday, but I will probably still drink.

[HamboBlank]

I will be there and I shall be drinking, hopefully red wine... Just did one of today's challenges and thought it was good enough to mention, check out the plasma video on my file share. I guess you Americans will be up late for bye-bye to fritz?

[XAntoftheSkyX]

I'll probably be on roughly 3 or 4 pm PST, at the latest 5pm

[PokerFace]

Well charlie you won't be playing tonight so if you want mountainous you can download the basic and changed it and play that at your own time. Basic is up on my file share for all that want it

I got all versions made

X for surviving without getting zombied = 2

X for kills as SK = 2

SK is harder than being town so getting surviving and kills points should be warranted

X for town radar = 10 meters

In theory one could run arround killing everyone as town and shout out who counts as betrayals and who counts as kills, that would work as an effective investigation method except for betrayals causing you to loose points so you could fight like that but loose the game via points.

betrayals = -1 point

I think these points and X's are valid. If we play a game we should get a good test overall. I'd like to play it at least once during tonight and that should be sufficient testing since the game is 3 rounds

Also Waypoint for scum is seen by allies. So all mafia sees each other as they should.
All other players have No Waypoint (SK) or unchanged (town)
Names are listed as unchanged for all players so you will see someone's name only if you normally do

[PokerFace]

I got some mafia games to play tonight and then after that I will be on halo. roughly 8pm EST I would wager

[Mr. Rogers]

Game should be played while people use party and not game chat so that all players can talk to each other and say whatever they want. Confusing scum hunting info for the win

Players that get magnums randomly are like millers!

What do you call it whenwhen 2 players find each other to be town in that game and stick together to fight the scum? MASONS!

Hey what do you call scum that use party chat and sucessfully trick people of their alignment or masons that betrays eachother near endgame inorder to go SK and get more points? Neighbors!

I think I got this thing planed out real well

[ReaperCharlie]

Hey all'yall in Washington should go to this: http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/news/blog/HaloFest/49437

HALO FEST

[PokerFace]

Actually I think playing the game of choice twice would be best

Basically we pick 1 of the valid game types
Mafia Cult (Mafia of 3 that can cult, 10m town radar, 2 lives)
Mafia Cult 1A (1 alpha that can cult and there is an SK, random role, 10m town radar, 2 lives)
Mafia Cult SK (3 mafia that can cult and there is an SK, random roles, 10m town radar, 2 lives)
Mafia Scum (3 mafia, random roles, 10m town radar, 1 lives)
Mafia Scum MT (3 mafia, mountainous, 1 lives)
Mafia Scum SK (3 mafia and there is an SK, random roles, 10m town radar, 1 lives)

and run 3 rounds with me as party lead and this

Test case 1 fair point test

Mafia Victory = 1
Kills as Scum = 1
kills as Town = 1
Kills as SK = 2
Surviving as SK or Town 2
Betrayals = -1
suicides = -1

^Looks like fair logical values

Test case 2 mafia like point test

Mafia Victory = 2
Kills as Scum = 1
kills as Town = 2
Kills as SK = 5
Surviving as SK or Town 2
Betrayals = -2
suicides = -1

^You killed a townie and then you killed a scum. net 0 in rating of is that person scum

^You bussed a scum buddy. That usually hurts your side if you can't make a good future come back

^A mafia and a town victory should have same values. And SK victory should be more thus killing as him is worth more

^Killing scum at the expense of yourself helps. you get a net of 1 point

ATM suicide makes you a zombie as default. Though I am not sure if suiciding should force zombieing. Consider the idea of stumping or not stumping though suiciding is not always possible because you would have to shoot yourself with a sniper ricochet or explosives.

You guys think suicide should force zombification (mafiacation) or not?

[ReaperCharlie]

Hmmm. good question.

I think no.

They should just die and not come back to life in the normal game.

In the cult game, they should die and come back as town.

[PokerFace]

ATM dying of any kind in
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum MT
Mafia Scum SK
means you are dead

I lean toward not force zombie in
Mafia Cult
Mafia Cult SK

I lean toward suicide forces zombie in
Mafia Cult 1A
since there is only one recruiter and they need help and since you can play to be recruited in some cult games
I will likly get rid of radar and give recruiter a DMR in MC1A since 1 recruiter will need help
DMR > magnum and no radars to town should help them enough

[ReaperCharlie]

You need to make a wiki page for these:

Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes/Mafia Scum
Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes/Mafia Scum MT
Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes/Mafia Scum SK
Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes/Mafia Cult
Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes/Mafia Cult SK

etc.

I have already made the Unicorn Brethren/Gametypes page.