Mini 1185 - Artemis Fowl Mafia Game Over

[bobsnox]

It's PoE for me but why is Kats ignoring us?

Kats - did you cause any deaths?

[Leiskyrie]

MPR, I had a case on you yesterday. Nothing that has happened, including your response, has changed any of my thoughts.

[Leiskyrie]

EBWOP: Sorry, was tired while writing the previous post. In case it wasn't clear, by "yesterday", I meant D3, not literally yesterday.

[Nexus]

Votecount 4.3:

MehPlusRawr (1): bobsnox

Not voting: Ellibereth, Katsuki, Leiskyrie, MehPlusRawr

With five alive, it takes three to lynch. Deadline is 11th July 2011 at 7pm.

Katsuki has been prodded.

[Katsuki]

Sorry been very busy as of late.

Have not been responsible for any kills thus far (you guys will know when I am).

Bob still needs to answer my questions.

[bobsnox]

I thought my vote switch answered the second question. Not sure about the first.

[Leiskyrie]

So do you think we're facing a 2-man scumteam? <- Kat's question I don't see how you can be unsure of whether or not you answered it...

MPR seems to be unresponsive. He never defended against my case or even mentioned it.

this game isn't really doing much. Nobody's explaining votes against me, there's not really anything I can do.

Nothing you can do? No scumhunting? Nothing to add that could possibly help us move along? He complains that nobody explained their vote (well, so far only one person has actually voted while others have expressed the intent to do so) and doesn't have anything to say about anybody else.

[bobsnox]

I meant I wasn't sure about the 2 man team. I think it almost has to be two though. I doubt Artemis or Butler are fakeclaims/scum. I'm not scum. Unless Mafia get an extra NK on odd nights, I would say we have one more scum and one odd night SK. I have never run across a mechanic that gives Mafia an extra NK, but I guess it's not outside the realm of possibility.

I think this game will be over if we eliminate MPR and Elli. Thoughts?

[Nexus]

Ellibereth has been prodded. I am force-replacing MehPlusRawr because he's requiring a fourth prod, and it's taking the piss.

[Nexus]

Voidedmafia replaces MehPlusRawr

[Voidedmafia]

Leis, by your case against MPR, do you mean This?

[Ellibereth]

Voided
claim

[Voidedmafia]

Yeahno.

Vote: Ellibereth

Try harder when you rolefish, 'kay?

[Ellibereth]

Rolefishing?
Hell no, I'm shooting a bazooka into the water. Or a nuke.
Anyway, if you're the SK you can still be saved by my psychiatric powers. So it's for you own good. You'll probably die if you lie you know.

[Voidedmafia]

You're not gonna get anywhere with this, Elli. I'm not gonna claim until I have to, regardless of how MPR played, and that point isn't here yet.

[Ellibereth]

Let's make it simple.
If you don't claim you die, Lei/Meh/bob/me. We'd all be willing to vote for you in a heartbeat.
If you're town realize saving your own skin is important now and claim, your inability to at this point will just make it easier for the bloodlust to be brought upon you.
If you're the SK, life is easier because you can get psychiatric help from myself and join the side of light.
If you're scum, keep on going with life like now but the noose draws near.

[Voidedmafia]

lol at how Meh's mentioned though he's replaced out.

But, if you're just asking if I'm a SK instead of a full-on claim, that's not as bad. In that regard, no, I'm not a SK.

[Ellibereth]

ooh whoopsy daisy.
so omina. Are you SCUMZ then? Because then you have to die. SK can still be saved.
and did you skim and have random reads or draw names from hats and stuff?

[Voidedmafia]

A.) no, I'm not.
B.) I haven't gotten around to an in-game reread thanks to IRL things.

[Ellibereth]

you only looked for lei's case on meh earlier or something?
like just tell me what happened readingwise so far and looking at any posts at all.

[Voidedmafia]

Well, this is what I've got from page 24 starting at the start of D4 till now

@Lei: List of reads from towniest to scummiest.

Lei never followed up on this.

I doubt both Lei and Elli are scum together, meaning that MPR is definately scum via PoE. I also have other reasons to believe that he is most likely scum.

And Kat hasn't followed up on this, either. Namely saying what her other reasons for voting Meh/me.

I still need to re-read this game. VCA to come when I have time. At first glance, there are quite a few gems to be found in VCA.

This also hasn't been followed up on.

THIS IS IN ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES A VOTE.

FOS: MPR

I'm assuming this is because she doesn't want to put Meh/me and L-1, though I'm not quite sure why. I'd like her to explain in her own words why she didn't just vote, though.

(though at this point, after having examined all the votecounts and doing some minor analysis, I'm having a hard time thinking of elli as town.)

I would like Leis to explain this, as you've asked, Elli.

[bobsnox]

Void - what do you think Elli is?

[Voidedmafia]

Void - what do you think Elli is?

If she's really a PR--or our SK since there's really no other possible explanation for two NKs other than a vig, and from what I remember of Fowl characters, none really match being a vig--I haven't picked up on anything that indicates that. Then again, I suck at that, so take my words with salt.

Having said that, I'm a little worried at how forceful she was with trying to get me to claim SK. I don't like claiming anything unless it's a massclaim situation (the fact that Meh nameclaimed but didn't really roleclaim notwithstanding) or when I'm at L-1 and someone intends to hammer me, so it kinda feels like elli was baiting me to say I'm the SK so she could CC me, or to get the real SK to CC me if it wasn't her. Hence why I reacted so negatively to her demand that I claim.

Given that Meh actually didn't roleclaim and only nameclaimed Grub, and that there was a massclaim at the start of D4, do you want me to fullclaim? (as for why you didn't get Meh to roleclaim during it, I have no clue. Really, why didn't any of you?)

[bobsnox]

Meh did roleclaim...

[Voidedmafia]

*looks back at iso*

Oh, I'm not focusing on this much...Yeah, he claimed non-consecutive commuter.