Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia (Game Over)

[Iecerint]

Do the flavor names seem sort of out of place ala "airstrike" ?

[Iecerint]

Ah, nevermind. Forgot something.

[Iecerint]

OMG ACCIDENT CRUMBS I THINK

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #35

Amrun (0)

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Kawaii (0)

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GreyICE (0)

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Antifinity (0)

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Candle Jack (0)

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populartajo (0)

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Iecerint (0)

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Nocmen (0)

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Surye (0)

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Celebloki (0)

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malthusis (10)

- ZeL1nK, Surye, Celebloki, Nocmen, GhostWriter, populartajo, Iecerint, LobsterCatapult, Lady Lambdadelta, Candle Jack

Starbuck (0)

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ace5993 (1)

- StevieT92

drewoftherushes (0)

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ZeL1nK (0)

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StevieT92 (3)

- drewoftherushes, GreyICE, SpyreX

GhostWriter (0)

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SpyreX (0)

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Kast (1)

- ace5993

vollkan (0)

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Pomegranate (0)

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LobsterCatapult (3)

- Amrun, Kast, Pomegranate

Lady Lambdadelta (0)

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No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (5)

- Kawaii, vollkan, Starbuck, malthusis, Antifinity

23 votes available, 12 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is July 18, ~ 10 am PDT

[SpyreX]

Well DUH he could be a SK.

And, like I said, he could have flat claimed that and I still wouldn't want him dead right now.

[populartajo]

willing to give malthusis one night to vig ace.

unvote vote: loobstercatapult

[populartajo]

after an iso, I think Id like drewofthersuhes killl, everyone agree with me so we can make malthusis target him tonight?

[GreyICE]

That's not news to me - I'm one of the mods who STARTED that trend (*COUGHMINDSCREWCOUGH*). You can still ma

Agree.

Protip: malthusis's claim is 99% lie. I made that clear early on (though I forgot to note that the ability doesn't fit flavor even setting aside issues of Misato being the single most likely safeclaim in the game by my reckoning). However, stock play with 1-shot vigs with shots remaining is to leave them be for a day and ask them to fire, THEN lynch them. Besides, it would give us an opportunity to test the ability I'm 99% sure Stevie is claiming.

The other two have, respectively, claims that make much more flavor sense (assuming I know what StevieRei is claiming*), and a confirmable ability paired with rolebased that I KNOW is correct.

* - If I saw that ability being hinted from ANY other character I would lynch it, but it makes WAY too much sense on Rei.

What the fuck I don't even see why Rei would be town in NGE mafia. REI'S A FUCKING ANGEL IN

END OF EVANGELION

.

SHE'S MOTHERFUCKING LILITH.

THERE NOW I'VE DESCENDED TO THE LEVEL OF ARGUING FLAVOR. I'M IN PAIN. PHYSICAL PAIN. EVEN IF HE'S CONFIRMED REI THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE HOST OF MOTHERFUCKING

LILITH

MOTHERFUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.

SO WHAT THE HELL WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO LETS LYNCH SOMEONE LESS SCUMMY THAN ONE OF THESE 'TARDS?

[Kast]

@Malthusis Claim-
Malthusis claim reads like an SK. In a large game, the value from killing an SK early by far outweighs the risk in letting him "play along" with town and "miss vig". If we lynch him D1 in a 25ish man game, that generally works out to an extra 3-4 days of game play for town.
-The flavor is off, as has been noted, and is typical for Kdub's large game safe-claims.
-Zeln1k's point about "targets" is irrelevant nitpicking
-Complete untargettability is already scummy, and put it on a

one-shot

vig? Not plausible
-Mod warning is null.

Dislike Spyrex's plan since I doubt we'd guaranteed ID 3 scum and I have no doubt it would be easy for Malthusis-SK to aim for the one he thinks is most townie. Additionally, we don't know how many kills and or manipulative roles are going to be running around tonight. HOWEVER, if Malthusis is not lynched today, I FULLY EXPECT him to shoot Ace.

Seriously though what scum goes SUP I AM VIG unless there's waaacky mechanics at play?

Normally, the disadvantage to scum claiming vig is that the real vig will kill them the following night. Scum claiming (and being) unkillable does not have this disadvantage. But he's more likely SK than Mafia anyway.

Docs should DEFINITELY consider protecting me tonight.

It's already done and I've announced that publicly...

@Noc-
The day-cop is an

Angel

Day Cop (CJ can confirm this tomorrow when he gets the power). It's a factional investigation.

@Vollkan-
You don't appear to assign townpoints and you don't appear to assign points based on claims. Are these factored anywhere?

I get frustrated by the notion that a player is only contributing if they are positively building a case - rather than investigating to see if there are grounds for suspicion (eg. by questioning people's motives) or by actively opposing an existing case/wagon that they perceive to be invalid.

Like this.

@Tajo-
My ability is called "Program".

VOTE: Malthusis

[Amrun]

Like 5 pages of catchup, and my LC vote is still as golden as ever.

Malthusis is probably SK, but we can give him a night... Although I don't see how that will help, really, as if he is really SK, he will have a shot and we'll have to give like 3 nights to truly test. Kast put him back at L-1, btw.

vollkan, what is your actual stance on Candle Jack?

[StevieT92]

My ability does indeed have a nice flavorful name. As far as getting confirmed by the mod, he didn't..ur right. And the airstrike thing does not make sense at all to me as well. So you know what? let's lynch him anyways. we don't need to wagon more people today imho, lets rope someone up and get to tomorrow already.


As far as spyrex, i do find it scummy that he was still the only person besides greyice shouting to lynch me after i claimed. I understand GI doing it, i think he would punch me in the face if he saw me in the street and we have a weird thing going where i think we are both town (i'll get into why my mind has changed later tonight) and we are clashing egos at this point. However spyrex doing it seemed scummy to me, and he didn't really have a good reason at all.

[LobsterCatapult]

Like 5 pages of catchup, and my LC vote is still as golden as ever.

Malthusis is probably SK, but we can give him a night... Although I don't see how that will help, really, as if he is really SK, he will have a shot and we'll have to give like 3 nights to truly test. Kast put him back at L-1, btw.

vollkan, what is your actual stance on Candle Jack?

of course king midas.

do you think he is sk or not? it seems like me you do. your post makes no sense.

malthusis' claim is shaky at best for me. i believe kast and stevie before i believe malthusis.

I am not understanding why Misato is the most optimal for a safeclaim, im thinking that this must be some flavor i forgotten.

I agree with kast on this one. his claim reads as sk and completely untargettable seems like a farfetched idea especially along with a vig shot. i dont buy it. i decided to iso malthusis to see if maybe his vig claim could reflect his playstyle.

Care to explain exactly why you are

LYING

about being a Mason with me?

Unvote, Vote: GreyICE

No town player would lie about being masons with another, and I'm far more inclined to believe Tar then you.

Unvote, Vote Greyice

this is really what set off my scumdar. the only post he had before this was a rvs on cj. why believe tar more than greyice? why would you think that greyice was being serious here anyway? more importantly, your logic is wrong here, why on earth would SCUM lie about being masons with someone? this was a meaningless prod-dodge sheep vote on noc that reeks of scum, this does not seem like a town post to me, and having a safe place to put your vote, along with buddying up to a semi-solid town read at that point reads a lot more like scum/sk trying to blend in.

There's just something about Stevie's playstyle that seems to really clash with playstyle scum should have. Normally scum either stay in the weeds and try to appear inconspicious, or try to appear really pro-town to help manipulate lynches. Stevie seems to have tried to be helpful to the town by trying to making a case on someone, but seemed to trip on his own feet somewhere in saying it. If he was scum, why wouldn't have he just backed away as soon as he started messing up instead of just making more mistakes? He also seems to ignore defending himself, which makes more sense for a townie player then a scum player.

I also have good gut feeling that this is probably a mislynch, but unless Stevie has one hell of a claim (and now, don't do any retarded stalling!) I won't mind him being lynched at all.

this to me doesn't seem like a town post at all. this seems to me that he thinks that stevie is town, but doesn't mind being lynched. this doesn't come from a town mindset. if he was truly set on stevie being town, why the second bit? the tone of this post makes it look like he is fencesitting, and if he is an sk, what a better way to fencesit.

stevie gets lynched,and is scum."oh,well i totally didnt mind him getting lynched, i was pretty wrong but i didnt think he was protown"

stevie gets lynched and is town "he was just inept townie, i called it"


infact, this play looks very similar to what Zel1nk posted in regards to his stance on the kast wagon. staying off of it, and simply not stating a solid read on kast at all. i find this odd because malthusis' vote was on greyice for a long while, why wouldn't he have a more town feeling on kast based on his suspicion of greyice? again. i feel like this is an sk trying to skate by and give minimal to no reads on major wagons.

the only time he gives a read is when he decides, imo, to get attention off himself and go after surye, which succeeded. his post before he attacks surye is crap as well. him LURKING was not the only reason there was a major wagon on him, he has been either sheeping,wishy washy, passive, until surye where he deflects, unvotes, and continues to be passive, even with his own defence.

i dont buy he is town. he has never read as town to me in this game, and in conjunction with his play, i dont believe his claim.

[GhostWriter]

You know, I said I was gonna answer Kast's post, but I actually won't even be doing that. There's no point to it. I think he's town, I'm not bothering to argue with him anymore about his playstyle. There are better things to do. Though I will say me questioning the key vote thing wasn't out of fear, it was out of confusion. My vote hardly seemed key to anything. You answered why you thought it was, and that's about the only non-playstyle thing in the post, so whatever.

But Malth? Lynch him. We lose, what, a 1-shot vig at most? 1-shot? Nope, not interested.

[Pomegranate]

Thirdly, DO NOT DO CANDLEJACK'S PLAN. that is all.

I trust CJ a hell of a lot more than I trust you right now, Stevie. Just sayin'.

And I agree with GI-- they're simply not all town. There's scum there. This day is dragging, and we need a freakin lynch already. So, although I'm not exactly sure how many votes are on him, VOTE: malthusis.

[GhostWriter]

According to Amrun, you just hammered and put us into Twilight.

[Pomegranate]

At this point, I can't say I really regret it.

[GhostWriter]

Meh, it is what it is.

[ZeL1nK]

No, he's at L-1, I think. tajo unvoted.

[populartajo]

i still think we should use malthusis to get rid of scummy people and make the game more manageable. Limiting himself to 1-shot was a bad choice if he is indeed a sk but good news for us since he now cant kill more than once.

what do you guys think of loobstercatapult?

[populartajo]

According to Amrun, you just hammered and put us into Twilight.

why does it feel like you knew that vote wasnt the hammer?

[GhostWriter]

Because I did.

[populartajo]

so what were you trying to do there?

[GhostWriter]

Reaction-fishing.

[populartajo]

did you ever suspect Pome?

[GhostWriter]

No, but that's no reason to not check her reaction.