Mini Normal 1187: Game Over

[nintendoaddict1]

In any case, 1 scum on the xvart wagon.

@ Valern ^

I was DIRECTING your attention to that post, not saying it was about you.

[nintendoaddict1]

There is a maf roleblocker that and a one-shot scum neighborizer that we've already gotten

That's interesting. Who said anything about a maf roleblocker?

[Giitah]

Better, explain that to everyone else tomorrow.

Lmfao, thanks for that one Nintendo. ^^

So what was that about a Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Tracker?

[nintendoaddict1]

Lmfao, thanks for that one Nintendo. ^^

To what 'one' are you referring?

[Giitah]

Pointing out that there was no scum roleblocker, it was a town one - Pine.

[Valern]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3175023

^ bob post on ace

@nintendo: oh. NOT LIKE IT MATTERS BECAUSE IT'S SCUMMY WIFOM LOL.

[Barry Allen]

BA, explain to me why you're alive instead of Heliman.

Leaving me alive after so many "cases" on me just leaves me looking bad and allows people like to you FoS on me instead of real scum. If I had been fully accepted as Town Tracker instead of voted on so many times, I would likely have been hit a long time ago.

Bottom line, Giitah is that I am what I say I am - Town Tracker. Remember that Bob's case on me was "there can't be that many roles". Turns out he was right in that respect, as there ARE NOT that many roles. If I'm NOT town, then it looks like the only role we had was town mason. Does THAT make sense to you? The maf had a role blocker and a one-shot neighborizer. Looks like there really IS room for a Town Tracker to exist - without there being "too many roles". Like it or not, giitah, that's exactly what I am.

[nintendoaddict1]

@nintendo: oh. NOT LIKE IT MATTERS BECAUSE IT'S SCUMMY WIFOM LOL.

Exactly.

[Barry Allen]

Pointing out that there was no scum roleblocker, it was a town one - Pine.

I apologize, you are right giitah. Roleblocker was town.

I stand by my point, though. Having mason, roleblocker and tracker is NOT "too many roles". Certainly "Sensor" turned out to be fake, as did "neighborizer" (turning out to be a scum role). However, there IS still room for a Town Tracker, and that's me.

[Giitah]

Fuck... good point. Foilist's choice in involving Ace. I forgot about that.
>___>
Well, this makes things more complicated...

Never mind about the BA is scum if he's alive tomorrow thing, there's something else amiss.

[Giitah]

Apologies to BA, if I get killed tonight it's probably to incriminate BA.

[Valern]

Amusingly enough I think this kind of memory slip up points to Barry being town because LOL at the idea of scum forgetting who they are or are not in a QT or whatever with.

[Scumhunter]

Barry, I was actually just about to unvote. I didn't realize he was hammered until after I had made that post. I do find it suspect that you didn't die Barry. I suppose nintendo was the scum sending in the kill or what not so ok...

[Scumhunter]

vote: nintendo

Question at those more experienced than I on here: How likely is it for there to be 4 scum in a mini normal?

[nintendoaddict1]

vote: nintendo

Question at those more experienced than I on here: How likely is it for there to be 4 scum in a mini normal?

I already hammered myself, SH.

[Scumhunter]

nintendo oh well lol. I'm a little butthurt that I didn't get to at least officially vote you after yesterday. You presented your report well and with the right tempo/pace/amount of pushing to secure the ML even though your role was so powerful that it didn't make sense not dying.

I think Barry is probably legit unless we have another town PR that hasn't claimed. Otherwise we would just have 2 masons + roleblocker?

Barry feel free to track me tonight if you doubt me although if you are real I'm sure you will die =/

[Scumhunter]

I think foilist saying ace is a mason partner with him was a gutsy play regardless of ace's alignment. It's one hell of a gambit to fake claim mason to bob but also to say that a townie is a 3rd mason with you would be serious wtf. I would think that the implication of a 3rd mason is something that most mafia would realize would come out in the wash eventually and that ace saying he was lying (like ace-town inevitably would and did) would ultimately confirm him as scum. I think it actually incriminates ace a bit, but to be honest its a massive wifom at this point and ace's wtf reaction to the whole scenario seemed fairly sincere.

[Scumhunter]

Ace yesterday LOOKS townie by wanting to lynch nintendo however
a) bussing is possible here really if Barry is the lone pr left. Ace could get away with bussing nintendo and still having some nice and tidy night kills lined up for him (barry/heli) and still be able to justify being alive because of foil's claim
b) there were plenty of townies myself included strongly pushing for the lynch on xvart so that taking an opposition stance wasn't all that risky in terms of nintendo actually being lynched.
c) if I were in ace-scum's shoes with 2 night kills lined up (assuming BA is real which I think he is) I would have bussed the hell out of nintendo probably.

[pappums rat]

Vote Count 4.1 (Only vote count of Day 4)

nintendoaddict1 - 4 (Barry Allen, hiplop, Valern, nintendoaddict1)

Not voting - ace5993, Giitah, Scumhunter

nintendoaddict1, Mafia Goon

, was lynched Day 4.

Please have all night actions to me by 6 P.M. on Wednesday July 6 or it will not count.

[pappums rat]

Barry Allen, Town Tracker, was shot Night 4.

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 5 is 3 P.M. EST on Wednesday, July 20, 2011.

Day 5 begins now.

[hiplop]

hiplop
ace5993
Valern
Scumhunter
Giitah

I'm thinking valern or ace are the scum. I have been thinking badly of giitah all game tho. At this point; scumhunter isn't on my scumdar, and im not either obviously.

[nintendoaddict1]

Yeah, go scum, yada yada. =P

[Scumhunter]

Ok...I see Barry had a no visit on hiplop night 3.

Given that foilist flipped mafia neighborizer and that nintendo flipped goon, I think hiplop is very likely clear (he no visited n3). The fact that scum killed Heliman instead of Barry N3 makes me think Heliman was likely role copped earlier (otherwise why wouldn't mafia kill the claimed tracker? Furthermore why kill Heliman?) Unless hiplop specifically chose to not role cop or in the odd scenario we have 4 weak scum roles (and possibly additional town power role(s)?)

I think it is much more likely we have 3 scum and that hiplop is like 85-90% clear here. Either way I think we might as well mass claim. I'm a VT.
I need to reread ace/Giitah/valern...pending the result of the mass claim. My initial gut fos is on valern, but im due for a solid readthrough.

[hiplop]

we're doing it popcorn style, scumhunter pick someone to claim next.

[Giitah]

Just something to think about now, BA got killed last night and was proven to be a Town Tracker. The fact that they chose to kill him now indicates that they've given up on their scheme that BA pointed out for us - that they longer he lived the more suspicious BA looked.
This tells us any of these things:

• Day 6 is highly probable (indicating either of these things: 1) They think one of their scummates will die today, 2) There is only one scum remaining)
  
• BA is viewed as a dangerous townie (not just in role, but in playing, meaning they're wary of his scumhunting)

Of these possibilities, I'm inclined to believe either of the possibilities from the first possibility (err... heheheh. maybe I should have a different way to write this out. xD!) that either there's only one scum left or they think of their mates will die today. If the latter is true, I would say it's pretty incriminating on Ace.

I guess this is wild speculation now, but if anything these are just some quick thoughts. Now that I rethink now I also realize it's not exactly the best idea to try and speculate the intentions of the killer since it's all WIFOM anyway, so...
S:
Looks like I need to do some rereading.