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[Amrun]

Ironhead: he actially tends to vote hop morre as town.

Earworm: I actually did not copy monk's reads...

Deadline soon. Chkflip wagon gogogo.

[earworm]

Deadline coming.

@Everyone

: The viable lynch targets are Vezo or Chkflip. If you aren't voting one of these two people in your next post you better have a damn good reason why.

[Empking]

Vote Count 31

Cobblerfone
Pine
Nocmen
TheMask (2) - Cobblerfone, vezokprika
Amrun
Surye
jilynne1991 (1) - TheMask
vezokprika (4) - Ironhead, Surye, PeregrineV, sorasgoof
earworm
chkflip (4) - Amrun, Nocmen, jilynne1991, earworm
PeregrineV (1) - Pine,
Ironhead
sorasgoof

Not Voting: chkflip,

With 13 alive, its 7 to lynch.

[PeregrineV]

I cannot in good conscience switch my vote to chkflip, who is also being voted on by Amrun and Nocmen.
If chkflip has half a brain, he'll survival vote vezok.

Either way, @Earworm, response to your question is on its way.

[sorasgoof]

I've been prodded. Nothing has changed my mind on Vezok.

[chkflip]

So, what. I've got votes on me because I have a personal life? That's silly. Check my personal ISO guys, I haven't played in

any games

, this isn't some lame ass attempt at active lurking.

VOTE: vezok

I'm catching up right now.

[Amrun]

VOTE: vezokpiraka

I do not prefer this lynch, but I don't want NL either.

[Amrun]

L-1, btw.

[Cobblerfone]

So, what. I've got votes on me because I have a personal life? That's silly. Check my personal ISO guys, I haven't played in any games, this isn't some lame ass attempt at active lurking.

Please answer this question:

ITT people claim asinine things and we just beleive them.

VOTE: PeregrineV

How is that claim asinine in an open setup game?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chkflip

[chkflip]

My fault, I've been trying to catch up on the earlier pages first. I still feel like Pere went with the safest fake-claim and stuck with it. The fact that nobody CC'd only means that the potential "real" one just didn't want to out themselves and have us potentially down a nice PR.

[PeregrineV]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chkflip

Did anyone else notice Monk reads=Amrun reads and just not comment on it because it's not worth it?

Fully explain why you think this is scummy. Why would scum just copy the same reads as their predeseccor. In other words, where is the scum motivation for doing what she did?

I don't think it's a question of scum motivation, but player motivation. Why re-do work that has already been done for you? It elicited no negatives reviews the first time around, so why re-invent the wheel?

And honestly, how many people checked? She could most likely expect to copy the previous reads and fully get away with it. 20+ players and I'm the only one to notice. And care enough to comment on it.

If she had quoted the reads and said "I agree with my slot's earlier reads, except maybe for Vezok", would that be cause for concern? Would that make her more likely to be town or more likely to be scum?

[jilynne1991]

I'm willing to hammer vezo, since he's not much of a player and he's null for me.

Just waiting for you guys to finish up the discussion.

[Amrun]

Peregrine, you are seriously pissing me off. Like, seriously.

I showed ALL my work - all of it, post by fucking post - and you have the gall to say I copy pasted reads. The reads aren't even the fucking same. You're obviously totally and completely wrong and I'd appreciate if you shut up about it. Even if you were right, it's not indicative of alignment, and you're not even right. I hate how you're undermining the 5+ hours I put into catching up to this game.

Unvote: vezok ; Vote: Chkflip

With cobbler's switch, this wagon is more viable and I prefer it. L-1, I think.

P-edit: why don't you discuss, jil?

[Surye]

My fault, I've been trying to catch up on the earlier pages first. I still feel like Pere went with the safest fake-claim and stuck with it. The fact that nobody CC'd only means that the potential "real" one just didn't want to out themselves and have us potentially down a nice PR.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Chkflip

You're trying to justify things you admitted you were wrong (or misleading about), as still being legit. And his "everyone attacked me because I was gone" with addressing questions was weak. And then voting vezok without actually looking at the game first? Because it was his competing wagon? All of these say one thing, he's not even trying to scum hunt, even when he is here. He's trying to not get lynched, and doesn't care who goes down in his place.

[Surye]

EBWOP: You didn't admit you were wrong, I misread that. But you are. A sanity with the claim made that a very unsafe fake claim. Come on.

[Surye]

I'm willing to hammer vezo, since he's not much of a player and he's null for me.

Just waiting for you guys to finish up the discussion.

Amrun, you still think she's totally town?

[Nocmen]

I cannot in good conscience switch my vote to chkflip, who is also being voted on by Amrun and Nocmen.
If chkflip has half a brain, he'll survival vote vezok.

Either way, @Earworm, response to your question is on its way.

I understand your concern with Amrun, but why am I an issue with the wagon? Your mediocre at best case on me? The fact that I disagree with your "case" on Amrun?

But yea, deadline in under 24 hours. I'm perfectly content with chk being the lynch.

[Amrun]

Yes, Surye. Sadly.

[chkflip]

Yeah, so kill a townie because he has a different opinion than you do. Good show.

[Surye]

My fault, I've been trying to catch up on the earlier pages first. I still feel like Pere went with the safest fake-claim and stuck with it. The fact that nobody CC'd only means that the potential "real" one just didn't want to out themselves and have us potentially down a nice PR.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Chkflip

You're trying to justify things you admitted you were wrong (or misleading about), as still being legit. And his "everyone attacked me because I was gone" with addressing questions was weak. And then voting vezok without actually looking at the game first? Because it was his competing wagon?

All of these say one thing, he's not even trying to scum hunt, even when he is here. He's trying to not get lynched, and doesn't care who goes down in his place.

[Ironhead]

Vote count:

chkflip (6) - Amrun, Nocmen, jilynne1991, earworm, Cobblerfone, Surye
vezokprika (4) - Ironhead, PeregrineV, sorasgoof, chkflip
TheMask (1) - vezokprika
jilynne1991 (1) - TheMask
PeregrineV (1) - Pine

chkflip is at L-1. Deadline is looming; I recommend chkflip claim now.

I think that the dichotomy of today's wagons will be good for the town. I much prefer a vezokpiraka lynch, but I don't think it is in the cards today.

[Pine]

Yeah, so kill a townie because he has a different opinion than you do. Good show.

If nothing else, I do not perceive this as a Town response to the wagon on oneself.

Unvote
Vote: Chkflip

Just got back from V/LA. Had a great time with my family and my girlfriend's family in the Adirondacks, but had even worse 3G coverage than expected. See you all on D3.

[chkflip]

DERPADOO.

You killed the vig. Good show. Now sit around holding hands singing coombaya because the mafia has this in the bag.

[jilynne1991]

OMG...what the heck?

Amrun, I don't see anything to say. When I saw everyone transfer their votes to chkflip, I had to admit, I'm really suprised votes change like that *snaps*.

I think town's screwed. Just saying.

[jilynne1991]

Oh wait nevermind, I forgot the setup of this game for a second. There's still only 3 mafia. (and a ton of pr's.) So nvmmmm.