Mini 1195: The Beehive Mystery (GAME OVER)

[Beck]

Ice: You have Beck down as lurker, he's been the most active? Where you just joking?

I thought that at first, than I actually slowed down and read the words leading up to it.

[Da Koolzzy]

I'd like to jump in here and address a couple of your points there ICE:

First off, from what I understand, the CS vote was not a serious PL attempt, but rather just an extreme form of protest in response his actions. I agree it was an unnecessary overreaction.

The "Don't hammer" post was nothing more than trying to get time to give some input on the situation and reevaluate our position on Yank. We didn't understand at first the significance of the mason role in relation to the setup, nor how it could be confirmed without a lynch. In that case, Yank's actions outweighed the possibility of an odd setup. Hence the vote.

@Beck: Site
Scroll down for completed games. It wouldn't be unfair to say that this site is not the pinnacle of mafia play XD. Setups are complex and a lot of play is done through private messaging. We’re just now trying to move away from that.

Putting stuff together between heads. Bigger stuff on the way.

[Tommy]

V/LA until Monday evening.

[ICEninja]

Holy crap everyone needs to seriously go back and read my post again, and actually carefully this time. All of those reads I posted were summaries of what Koolzzy said HIS READS were in his second post of the game. These are not my own opinions. I wasn't

at all

ambiguous about it, and it really shows that people are skimming my posts instead of reading them. That's what happens.

[ICEninja]

Putting stuff together between heads. Bigger stuff on the way.

Be aware that expectations are quite high for your next post. You did very little to dissuade my suspicion. Nothing, actually.

[ICEninja]

Alright, the game is over now, and since Yank flipped vanilla mason, I feel comfortable sharing my information before post-game. In New York 131 (horrible game, just read the set-up not the whole thing) the mason team was weakened by having 2 of the members being lovers. When one of us was night killed, the other died as well. Granted a mini is going to have fewer town power roles than a large, a weakened mason trio isn't strong at all.

That is why I believed Yank's claim so readily, because if a normal large game allowed weakened masons, I'm sure a normal mini would as well. There are other possibilities for a weakened mason team, but I've probably already given scum more help than I should have, and am only saying this much because I practically went ahead and told scum to look at my ongoing game to find out what I was saying anyway.

[Greymarble]

1/3 of Grey's posts look like he's active lurking...and he's only posted 15x.

10 useful posts, Grey. Way to go.

Also, feel free to make as many excuses as you want, but I still don't see an appropriate reason for you to vote someone you don't think is scum. When you play as town, you're not going for self-preservation.

Pot kettle Wheee! As for my lack of content that was life-related and true across all my games.
So who do you think is scum miss J?

Masons with a lover-member is an interesting concept. It would count as the game's stretchy role, but yeah that more or less makes sense of you buying triplemasons.

[Ivan the Pleasant]

Tommy
Subgenius
ICEninja
rblinker

At least two scum is between the above four. Guaranteed.

[rblinker123]

So Ivan once again you add my name to a list of people you think is scum, yet you still havent said anything about me that explains it. Care to explain.

[Beck]

Can we just pick jily or Koolzy and lynch one of them?

This game is stalling because we wait for them to play

Jily basically said She isn't lurking but will posts when she feels like it
Calls soneone out for their lack of posting
Claims her play style is to do wall of posts, but hasn't done one yet
Hasn't given her reads on day 1, even though I asked twice
Has posted nothing but garbage.

Koolzy isn't really much different except he isn't a replacement.


Regardless, they are doing nothing in the game to catch scum

[ICEninja]

I'm very quickly running out of patience for our lurkers. I'll be buying in to Beck's idea if they don't start actually playing, with the obvious preference of lynching Koolzzy.

[Klazam]

Day Two: Vote Count Three

Da Koolzzy (2)- Captain Spoon, Beck,
Greymarble (2)-, Subgenius, Tommy,
Tommy (2)- Greymarble, Ivan the Pleasant,

Not voting: (5) – Da Koolzzy, ConfidAnon, ICEninja, rblinker123, jilynne1991,

With 11 alive, it’s 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-07-19 17:00:00). (5 PM EST on July 19.)

Tommy's V/LA has been noted.

Stinging (Prodding) ConfidAnon.

Will sting Subgenius in two hours.

[Ivan the Pleasant]

Yeah, lynch people you know nothing about to make yourself feel better. good job.

[subgenius]

Sorry about not posting. Honestly, I'm a bit stuck. We have more than enough players to suspect, and none of them seem to be doing a lot to defend themselves.

Koolzy and Jilynne are at the top of this list.

Greymarble has been posting a bit, but I don't find his defense especially compelling. While I agree that lynching a likely townie is better for the town than allowing one's self to be lynched (assuming the person in question is also town), I think Grey is overstating the danger he was in. It's true that he was probably the second leading lynch candidate, but we were still far off from the deadline, and he really didn't make any effort to present a case against one of his suspects.

Grey's point on Tommy is interesting, but after re-reading Tommy, it does appear that he had other reasons for suspecting Acro besides his defense of SK, which does explain his lessening suspicions of SK somewhat.

Rblinker, on the other hand has done the same thing that Grey accused Tommy of (pushing an acro lynch based on his mutual defense of SK then backing off on SK. I'm finding this a bit more suspicious in Rblinker's case, because he really didn't have much of a case on Acro besides the mutual defense thing. Also, he still hasn't applied much pressure to anyone through out the entire game. I'm starting to lead towards Rblinker as a good suspect.

I don't know. I should probably do a re-read. I agree with Beck about the game stalling. We have too many lurkers, and they aren't responding to pressure. I'd rather not rush to lynch yet, but we need to get some movement. I'm just not quite sure how atm.

preedit:

Yeah, lynch people you know nothing about to make yourself feel better. good job.

How about helping rather than just posting sarcastic comments? It's really wearing thin.

[Beck]

Yeah, lynch people you know nothing about to make yourself feel better. good job.

you do realize there is no town motivation to lurk and avoid answering questions and providing reads.

you do also realize if one of these people were put at L-2 or even L-1 it would force them to participate and answer questions.

Sometimes, town's best and strongest weapon is the vote.

why not pressure one of the lurkers who has been under suspicion almost the entire game.
Jily replaced SK and that slot is at the top of almost every single person's scum list ATM (or should be) and she responds by ignoring requests to provide reads and says she will post when she feels like it?

i'm sorry that is crap and to excuse that behavior is also crap.

Vote: Jily

i'm not suggesting she be lynched just yet, but putting her at L-2 isn't a bad idea right now.

[subgenius]

agreed

vote: Jily

[ICEninja]

Alright Koolzzy hasn't followed through on anything. My patience is done. Play or hang.

Vote Da Koolzzy

.

I approve of the jily votes as well, and would consider her the second best place to have a vote right now.

[Llamarble]

Grey says he doesn't really have the time to play this game, so I'd like to replace in with my main account (this one) just so I don't have to deal with login-logout shenanigans when posting in multiple games.

Jily & Koolzy wagons aren't bad. I think I like the Jily wagon better, but I'mma do some reading now.

[Beck]

@ mod - prod on confid?

[rblinker123]

Should confid have not been replaced he hasn't posted in nearly a week?

[ICEninja]

Stinging (Prodding) ConfidAnon.

Will sting Subgenius in two hours.

Less than 10 posts ago. Come on guys.

[Beck]

lol. Oops

[jilynne1991]

Ok, V/LA until Monday.

I'll reply to everyone on Monday.

[Beck]

Ok, V/LA until Monday.

I'll reply to everyone on Monday.

not acceptable. why replace into a game and than flake, and now go on a V/LA

you are scum, I am happy with my vote on you, I suggest everyone else puts you to L-1 so when you come back from your V/LA of 1 fucking day, you will be forced to contribute.

[Ivan the Pleasant]

I've played with Jilly before Beck, get VERY used to not hearing from her. She will not post anything, at all, even if you lynch her.