Open 315 - Quack Mafia (Game Over)

[glowball]

glowball, if you have a plan that will give us more information than pops' one, I'm more than willing to hear it.

I don't have one as well though out, I've already said. I am not good with numbers- plus I'd rather not waste my breathe on people who've decided DonJosh is the best lynch. I mean if we are going to lynch I'd rather lynch jily and have forest protect DonJosh at least then we don't waste tomorrow lynching jily since she's obvscum(I did a re-read)

[Uncle Pain]

I want to hear from DonJosh if you expect ME to hammer.

True for me as well. There’s a good chance DonJosh is town and if so, I’d like to hear his thoughts before he gets lynched – remember, it’s about scumhunting and we need all the clues we can get. OTOH if he flakes, it doesn’t make sense to replace him and wait for his replacement to recap the game since he couldn’t add anything to the game that we don’t know already. I suggest that we wait until the mod tells us that he didn’t pick up his prod and is about to get replaced. Then I’m willing to put this to an end.

@Mod: What is the current prod/flaking status of DonJosh?

[RayFrost]

As DonJosh was V/LA until last Sunday, he is currently ~26 hours from being prodded.

[Sathoris]

glowball, if you have a plan that will give us more information than pops' one, I'm more than willing to hear it.

I don't have one as well though out, I've already said. I am not good with numbers- plus I'd rather not waste my breathe on people who've decided DonJosh is the best lynch. I mean if we are going to lynch I'd rather lynch jily and have forest protect DonJosh at least then we don't waste tomorrow lynching jily since she's obvscum(I did a re-read)

Sigh.. you needed a re-read to call jylinne obvscum? Waiting to hammer to hear DonJ's final thoughts on players I can understand, but all you're waiting on is for someone to change his mind and switch to jylinne. Lynching your partner now would be better for scum as we'd be no closer to figuring out the quacks. We got one scum, this lynch will tell us more about her partners.

You know it's these little things, you never gave a valid reason why you don't want to hammer. You implied that with the proper response from DonJ you won't even lynch. He can't give us any new information except his reads. Which you haven't mentioned once that you wanted to hear. You're stalling to postpone this lynch for reasons that benefit scum more than town.

[DonJosh]

...wow. Way to put me at L-1 on my vacation.
Obviously I don't totally agree with the plan, but as long as I'm helping the town and not being lynched because of scumminess, I guess it's alright. Plus, I'm going camping again for another 3 days so I'd be V/LA for a while anyway. Anyways, Your guys plan is really solid, and just a heads up, I think I may be quack. Good luck catching scum!

VOTE: DonJosh

[popsofctown]

Er.. It's a combination of you seeming scummy, and helping the town because of your position in the protection web. Your enthusiasm is somewhat correctly placed I guess..

[DonJosh]

Yes, I know, I meant *purely because of scumminess

[Uncle Pain]

Well, I didn’t consider DonJosh self-hammering but I can see why he did it. I wish he had given us some reads though (he isn’t allowed to do this any more as per rule #9).

[DonJosh]

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[izakthegoomba]

Damnit Don, if you're gonna self hammer you could at least do something useful first. And I'm pretty sure #306 isn't allowed either.

[izakthegoomba]

So yeah everyone go with pops' latest plan. See most of you in the morning.

[Apokalyptika]

Man, if DonJosh thought he was quack, it'd be nice to tell us that before self-hammering...oh well. Let's do this.

[Sathoris]

Thoughts are meaningless. DonJ had as much reason to think he was a quack as Empking would have. Assuming they're both doctor's, of course.

[glowball]

someone copy and past the plan please

[popsofctown]

onlyifDonJosh-scum or DonJosh-quack, 4.0
Empking protects forest_air
Forest air protects jill
Jill protects glowball.
Sathoris protects Uncle pain
Izak protects Iceguy
popsofctown protects Empking
IceGuy protects popsofctown
glowball protects Empking
Uncle Pain protects popsofctown

DonJosh is Doc:

forest->jill
jill-> goomba
empking->Sathoris
Sathoris->popsofctown
goomba->uncle pain
popsofctown->forest
uncle pain-> goomba
glowball->forest
iceguy->Sathoris

[RayFrost]

After much deliberation, arguing, and analysis, the group of people turned to one person who seemed to not be saying much. "He must be one of them! Look at his pale coloration, what doctor wouldn't take better care of themself?" The argument went around, slowly convincing people until DonJosh jumped on the table, sighing. "If you guys really think this... at least allow me to end myself."

With that, DonJosh walked to the ropes, putting his own head in the noose and jumping off.

After looking through his pockets once he had stopped breathing, the town comes to find that DonJosh was a

Doctor

.

DonJosh,

Doctor,

has eaten rope Day One.

It is now night, send in night actions and the like now. Mafia may also now communicate in their QT.

Countdown To Night End

[RayFrost]

As a new day begins, the group once again rises to see the results of their night's work. All but two leave their rooms into the communal hall, with only Empking failing to rise. As the town goes to check, they find that Empking is dead. Empking's body had a couple of needle marks in his arm.

As the group searched the rooms, it was found that Empking had a large stock of unsanitized needles and unsafe, outdated medicines. Together, the group brought empking's body out, placing it amongst the others before grimly setting their minds to the task ahead of finding the killers.

Empking,

Quack

, has suffered from an overdose night one.

It is now Day Two.

Countdown To Deadline
Vote Count 2.00:
Not Voting (8): uncle pain, apokalyptika, iceguy, izakthegoomba, popsofctown, satohris, glowball, jillynne
With eight alive, it's five to lynch.

[Apokalyptika]

Well that's unfortunate.

So I "protected" jill, and I can't help but notice she's still here. Unless someone's got a great explanation, I'll be

voting: jillynne

.

[glowball]

onlyifDonJosh-scum or DonJosh-quack, 4.0
Empking protects forest_air
Forest air protects jill
Jill protects glowball.
Sathoris protects Uncle pain
Izak protects Iceguy
popsofctown protects Empking
IceGuy protects popsofctown
glowball protects Empking
Uncle Pain protects popsofctown

DonJosh is Doc:

forest->jill
jill-> goomba
empking->Sathoris
Sathoris->popsofctown
goomba->uncle pain
popsofctown->forest
uncle pain-> goomba
glowball->forest
iceguy->Sathoris

VOTE: jilynne1991
IGMEOY: Sathoris&IceGuy

[izakthegoomba]

Yep, obvscum just got... um... obvscummier?

VOTE: jilynne1991

Apok > jill
jill > goomba
empking > Sathoris
Sathoris > popsofctown
goomba > uncle pain
popsofctown > Apok
uncle pain > goomba
glowball > Apok
iceguy > Sathoris

Assuming everyone went by this:

Well, the fact that jilynne survived a quacking means she's pretty much confirmed scum.

Uncle Pain survived, so I'm pretty sure that makes me a doc.

I also survived, Uncle's doc too, unless he's scum.

IceGuy can't be a quack, otherwise Sath would have died from Emp's protection.

Sathoris also can't be a quack.

EITHER at least one of glowball and pops is a doc, OR they are both scum. So basically, if one of them flips scum, the other one is doc or scum. One flipping doc means nothing, apart from narrowing down the options. One flipping quack confirms the other as a doc.

I guess Emp must have been the NK then. Or somebody ditched the plan, and all of what I said is invalid.

I think that covers it. That's just analysis of N1 though, we'll need to look at it with regard to N0.

As I said in a PM to the mod, I will be V/LA until next Thursday or Friday.

[Sathoris]

Apok - Quack
Sath - Doc
Iceguy - Doc

Glowball - doc/quack
Pops - doc/quack

Uncle_Pain - scum/doc
Goomba - scum/doc

Jyl - scum

There are three quacks in this game which means there's only one unknown left. It has to be either Glowball or Pops as no one else was double protected where we don't already know the alignement of one of the protectors.
Couples with Iceguy countering Empking's quack on me and me not killing Pops means we have 5 out of 8 pegged as town. We know jyl is scum and she will be lynched today. That leaves only two as possible scum.

Before we lynch Jyl we need a new plan.

[IceGuy]

Definite reads:
Apocalyptica = quack
jilynne1991 = scum

Conditional reads:
IceGuy = doctor if Sathoris is town
goomba = doctor or scum if Uncle Pain and Sathoris are town
popsofctown and glowball = if there is a quack between them, the other one is a doctor
Uncle Pain and popsofctown = if there is a quack between them, the other one is a doctor; Uncle Pain is doctor or scum if goomba is town
Sathoris = doctor or scum if popsofctown and goomba are town

THE PLAN:
Apocalyptica -> Sathoris
IceGuy -> Apocalyptica
goomba -> Apocalyptica
popsofctown -> glowball
glowball -> Uncle Pain
Uncle Pain -> popsofctown

This gives us the most information.
If Sathoris flips doctor, I'm a doctor and goomba can only be the quack if Uncle Pain is scum.
If Sathoris flips quack, I'm a doctor and popsofctown and goomba are scum.
If Sathoris flips scum (i.e. doesn't die), I'm the quack.
Additional information will be gained from the popsofctown -> glowball -> Uncle Pain -> popsofctown circle-protect.

VOTE: jilynne1991
Please DON'T put jilynne at L-1, we still need a strategy for tomorrow and since she's going to die anyway she'll likely try a self-hammer.

[Sathoris]

Forgot that quacks don't hurt scum. Regardless Ice is confirmed as doc as I didn't die from Empking's quack protect.

Goomba as quack means I was protected by Muffin or Grey on N1 and Uncle would have to be scum. Not believing those circumstances to be true. If the quack is between Glowball and Pops then the other is a doc as Apok isn't scum. Uncle can be a quack if Goomba is scum.

Uncle is the last quack, Pops is a doc.

Goomba, glowball and Jylinne as scumteam. Nothing has changed to make me divert from my original stance on things.

Not time to make up plan now. Will post my plan later.

[glowball]

Yep, obvscum just got... um... obvscummier?

VOTE: jilynne1991

Apok > jill
jill > goomba
empking > Sathoris
Sathoris > popsofctown
goomba > uncle pain
popsofctown > Apok
uncle pain > goomba
glowball > Apok
iceguy > Sathoris

Assuming everyone went by this:

Well, the fact that jilynne survived a quacking means she's pretty much confirmed scum.

Uncle Pain survived, so I'm pretty sure that makes me a doc.

I also survived, Uncle's doc too, unless he's scum.

IceGuy can't be a quack, otherwise Sath would have died from Emp's protection.

Sathoris also can't be a quack.

EITHER at least one of glowball and pops is a doc, OR they are both scum. So basically, if one of them flips scum, the other one is doc or scum. One flipping doc means nothing, apart from narrowing down the options. One flipping quack confirms the other as a doc.

I guess Emp must have been the NK then.

Or somebody ditched the plan, and all of what I said is invalid.

I think that covers it. That's just analysis of N1 though, we'll need to look at it with regard to N0.

As I said in a PM to the mod, I will be V/LA until next Thursday or Friday.

Check the bolded: It seems like you hinted at the plan possibly not going as planned. Nothing shows that things didn't go as planned, so what makes you think that?

FoS:Izak

[Sathoris]

Way to buss.