New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)

[xRECKONERx]

Oh man.
JDGA noobdefended his fakeclaiming scumbuddy who fakeclaimed an innocent result on his scumbuddy for WIFOM purposes who just scumslipped and revealed himself

THIS GAME IS NOW SLAMDUNK STATUS

[Celebloki]

How is it insider information? Palisade said he was going to vig, KoC, San, or me and why would mafia kill their own goon? They obviously targeted 65535.

[Palisade]

First off, my apologies. I was V/LA again, and informed Redhead that he could post while I was away.

I realize now that leaving him unrestrained was quite the mistake.

You see, Redhead's a bit...inexperienced. His joindate is 2011. He doesn't really understand how to play the game, and makes a lot of false assumptions about matters that I have to correct him on later. With my absence, I was unable to do so.

For instance, Redhead had an early Reck suspicion. You can actually observe this in-thread, if you look through our ISOs. Suspicion from Redhead on Reck which is noticeably absent from me, Almond-Hair. The main reason?

"Reck seems too aggressive to my gut."

After a moment facepalming, I had to explain to him why Reck wasn't scum and essentially knock some sense into him.

Later-on, he pulled this same move on Thor, thinking Thor looked like scum based on gut.

A double facepalm was not enough to convey my feelings. I simply told him, "No. Just no."

This is his first time as a Vig. He doesn't know how the role works, unaccustomed to the site meta of how a vigilante operates. He makes mistakes, assumptions which are false. He assumed two cops in a game is impossible. (I have personally witnessed it. Albeit before cop sanity was guaranteed. Improbable, sure.) He assumed he had the authority to say "we", when I was absent.

I did not have any input on his assessment of "we do not intend to be manipulated"; that was all him. (Speaking of which, I'm making it quite clear in our QT that Redhead's power of the word "we" has been vetoed.)


I, however, have been here for years. I know how the game works, and have actually been a vigilante before. I am aware of how they work. I know how to play the game very well, and am essentially stuck on cleanup duty for Redhead's mess, because he doesn't understand how things work.


Technically, it's true--we don't intend to be manipulated. That sentence does not carry the weight Redhead implies, though. Advice, opinions, and recommendations are good--and, in fact, help get me reads on players based on their answers. (A fact Redhead seemed to be unaware of when he made that declaration.)

But I DO trust a significant number of players in this playerlist, those who I have been defending as town. I do not necessarily think they're right, but I certainly listen to them and think they're town. Redhead's "We" there was quite false.

I've seen Redhead play, and I know he's quite paranoid as town.

I, however, am quite the opposite. I trust a lot of people. We did decide amongst ourselves who to vig (We shot Khan, due to a scumread we had on Khan's predecessor, Sancho), but it wasn't without taking into consideration the reads of others.


My suspects going into the night were chkballin, sancho/Khan, and one of {PBuG, Parabol} (but not both). Sancho/Khan was determined to be our best shot. NS was out of the question, since I had the experience to know the claim was not in fact the BS Redhead had thought it to be. (This is not the first time Redhead has misinterpreted a claim as being scummy when it essentially confirmed someone as town.)


I really am sorry that Redhead was allowed free reign for a while. Honestly, you'd think this was a teaching hydra with how frequently I have to come in and rescue him.


Khan was supposed to flip scum, so I'll be re-reading and analyzing things right now.

~Almond-Hair.

[xRECKONERx]

Dear Christ.

NS dies today unless he produces a guilty result. Then we can test his claim.

Palisade is probably the truevig despite being a stupid one. The real vig would've shot the fakeclaiming SK overnight unless he's RETARDED, which clears Palisade in my book. Now to SK hunt.

[xRECKONERx]

How is it insider information? Palisade said he was going to vig, KoC, San, or me and why would mafia kill their own goon? They obviously targeted 65535.

OR
You're the SK who shot scum, so you could easily assume where the scumbullet went

[xRECKONERx]

I find it all hilarious that NS faked a guilty on the SK

[xRECKONERx]

*faked an inno

[Palisade]

-If NS is lying scum:
The scumteam is {JDGA, NS, Celebloki, one of PBuG/Parabol, chkballin?}

-If NS is SOMEHOW truthful:
The scumteam is {JDGA, one of PBuG/Parabol, chkballin, and two mysterious others}.

...Yeah......

Vote: NS

.

[xRECKONERx]

Doesn't matter because we're gonna PEWPEW the SK tomorrow

ACTUALLY PALISADE

pew pew the SK tonight pl0x

[Celebloki]

So because I m the only one that can actually think logically I am the sk?

[SleepyKrew]

Where's NS with that result?

[Celebloki]

I do believe that NS is scum however. Being scum he knows I'm town and was attempting to white night me when he saw people voting me. Why would he vehemently defend me if I was his scum buddy and I were lynched to just show that I was scum? If he were trying to do a cop gambit the only way that would work is if he knew I'd flip town otherwise he'd just be caught anyway.

Vote: NS

[Celebloki]

EBWOP: Knight

[xRECKONERx]

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[Thor665]

I'm debating what I think right now, an NS action claim will be aces.
I've gone from town to neutral on Pallisade.
That's all for now.

@Reck - you're frothing about Pallisade as regards Vig/SK interactions without thinking about scum interactions with his claim - whassup wit dat?

[SleepyKrew]

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[xRECKONERx]

I'm debating what I think right now, an NS action claim will be aces.
I've gone from town to neutral on Pallisade.
That's all for now.

@Reck - you're frothing about Pallisade as regards Vig/SK interactions without thinking about scum interactions with his claim - whassup wit dat?

what the fuck are you talking about
Pallisade claimed vig yesterday
Pallisade was not shot or counterclaimed
There were three kills
Pallisade is vig

stop smoking meth

[Nobody Special]

I have received a Guilty result on SleepyKrew.

Lynch me, and you lose a cop. Set your personal feelings for me aside, please, and work with my role. Deal?

Lynch Sleepy, and if he does somehow flip town, you know I'm insane -- feel free to kill me overnight, if you must, but then realize that Celebloki is Not Innocent. (I am unclear whether an insane Innocent would equal scum or 3rd party; I don't have a lot of experience as a Cop, sorry.)

Lynch Sleepy today, and:

Best case: We've gotten another scum.

Worst case: We've lost a townie, but we know I'm insane, and therefore Celebloki is Not Innocent.

Because, in either case, I KNOW that I will flip town Cop. You can deal with that after my flip.

For now:

Vote: SleepyKrew

[SleepyKrew]

lol
VOTE: NS

[bvoigt]

Hey, I was probably going to vote him anyway.

VOTE: SleepyKrew

[xRECKONERx]

Oh my god that WIFOMy claim is making me froth like fucking crazy

"BUT MAYBE I'M INSANE LOL SETUP MISLYNCH ON CELEBLOKI AS WELL LOL"

fuck it

Vote: SleepyKrew

Keep in mind it's REALLY FUCKING CONVENIENT that NS comes back with a guilty right after I say the only way to avoid his lynch is to produce a guilty. POSSIBLE BUS AS WELL but I mean NS is dying at some point anyway

[Palisade]

Fail.

All cops in a normal game are required to be Sane.

And if I'm not mistaken, most mods make it quite explicit in the PMS that they ARE Sane, and NS just said he could be insane.

Additionally, if he wasn't Sane, then that'd make Celebloki scum, something he fails to address.

And furthermore, he knows SleepyKrew will flip town, and that he needs an excuse for it.

Confirm

VOTE: Nobody Special.

[SleepyKrew]

I totally forgot all Cops are Sane.
LOLROFLXDFATELULWUT

[Thor665]

Vote: SleepyKrew

We have a claimed Vig and a claimed cop guilty, so...scum is dying by tomorrow morning no matter what. I'm fine with that.

[xRECKONERx]

Palisade oh my god what