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Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:11 am

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Magister Ludi wrote:Well every post comes from Town, so overall, Town.


Give me a concentrated timeline. Make sure you don't miss anything re: wagoning me.
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Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:12 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:ML is probably town. I can confirm that he jailkept me again last night.


How does that make him non-recruit?
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Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:12 am

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Battousai wrote:Yos- He hasn't linked me there, he is only assuming I wasn't there because the mod flavor said SL was alone. Which makes sense as how could anyone kill SL if SL wasn't alone.


Ah, I get it now. This line of questioning was based on your job as a bank clerk, right?
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Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:15 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:ML is probably town. I can confirm that he jailkept me again last night.


How does that make him non-recruit?


If he had gotten recruited, wouldn't he be blocking the claimed cop or something now instead?

Anyway, you can't lynch him. He's the guy who's keeping me town.
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Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:19 am

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I'm going to drop it because any meaningful results would require her to claim her target.
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Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:21 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:If he had gotten recruited, wouldn't he be blocking the claimed cop or something now instead?


Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhh....

I still want his self-iso, though.
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Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:24 am

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Bunnylover, 2488 wrote:I mean look at Kinetic first post this day. HE IS EXCITED THAT ABR IS GONE. WHY? BECAUSE HE CAN KILL AND RECRUIT WHOEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO KNOW.
While ABR was alive, Kinetic had to choose carefully who he wanted to recruit and hope that ABR doesn't kill of one of his recruit or attempt to recruit the same person and therefore it would be who sent in their action first.

Why do you care that recruiter was excited about something? It is still
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I really think ooba is stretching the lines of flavor and reality a little too strongly. It doesn't even matter about PRness or not; he could have just visited another location without performing an action at all.

Whoever suggested that SL was a failed recruit and then killed because of the failed recruit by Kinetic is out of his mind. Unless Kinetic has a vig in his control that would be two wasted recruitment opportunities.

I also heavily dislike Seraphim's play today. Asking DGB about her movement and then absolutely no follow up? Considering the mess that it caused yesterday is suspicious.

I need to do a little follow up but I could swing for a ooba or Seraphim lynch at this moment. I'm still processing the Scumputer results but based on my preliminary understanding of DGBs thought process I could probably swing for a Darox lynch.
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Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:26 am

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How about tajo?

Tajo is my number #1 Kinetic recruit at the moment.
Tanarin/Darox is #2.

I can even see them being recruits together, with tajo distancing.
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Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:31 am

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ITT Seraphim is not a Careful Reader.

Just sayin.
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Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:32 am

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Nobody Special wrote:ITT Seraphim is not a Careful Reader.

Just sayin.


Do you have referrals for me? Business cards? Potential clients?
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Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:33 am

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I'm looking.
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Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:33 am

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If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the majority of points against me relate to my predecessor being crazy. Which kinda doesn't make sense to recruit, but whatever. Knowing what I know, he wasn't 100% crazy, just whenever he opened his mouth it all came spilling out. Don't ask me to explain his votes because I'm just baffled.

Still digging tajo as cult.
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Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:35 am

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Darox wrote:If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the majority of points against me relate to my predecessor being crazy. Which kinda doesn't make sense to recruit, but whatever.

What's your ability (he asked innocently)?

Also, your second paragraph there is worded very strangely. Try again?
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Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:38 am

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You don't stick your cult in the crazy NS, you don't stick your cult in the crazy.
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Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:46 am

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Darox wrote:You don't stick your cult in the crazy NS, you don't stick your cult in the crazy.


Looking at his ISO, Tanarin dosn't look especially crazy to me on day 1. He makes cases, asks questions, votes fairly aggressively, usually giving reasons for his votes, and generally doesn't look bad.

Day 1 ends on June 14th. Look at Tanarin's posts from the start of day 2 onwards. Suddenly he gets a lot lurkier, his posts get shorter, he a lot less aggressive, and basically gives no reasons for his votes.

That kind of sudden change can very well mean someone just got recruited.
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Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:47 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:summary of my suspects.

dont know why you felt the need to quote all my stances on players at the time (shrug).

DrippingGoofball wrote:Tajo had me town on Day 1, and Tanarin/Darox as scum.

yeah you were townier than town.

DGB wrote:On Day 2, when Kinetic starts to frame me and go rabid, populartajo changes his stance on my alignment, but never explains why there is a change in his opinion from one day to the next.

Do you seriously want me to explain why there is a change in my opinion from one day to the next IN A CULT GAME?

DGB wrote:On Day 3, both Kinetic and tajo continue theit campaign against me, believing I am an ABR minion.

When did I say you were an ABR minion?

DGB wrote:Tajo is my number #1 Kinetic recruit at the moment.
Tanarin/Darox is #2.

"Vote: town, FOS: scumpartner" powers ctivated.

If you were town and you had really read my iso with an objevtive agenda, you would have realized Im obvtown. But as I said yesterday, its painfulluy obvious you are scum with Tanarin specially with all that crap about Katsuki and me being scum because we were attacking you, and not saying a single word about Tanarin that was also attacking you

Also you are attacking me for not but supossedly NOT GIVING A REASONING TO MY VOTE, but you dont say a single word about Darox loltajoiscult attacks.

Good to know you are selective voting AGAIN.
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Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:49 am

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also lol at the accusation I could be distancing with Tanarin/Darox when IVE BEEN WANTED HIM TO DIE since FREAKING DAY 1.

try again, I guess, SCUMBAG
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Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:57 am

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populartajo wrote:also lol at the accusation I could be distancing with Tanarin/Darox when IVE BEEN WANTED HIM TO DIE since FREAKING DAY 1.


Hypothetical question, Tajo. If you were town and were attacking person X, and then later you got recruited and it turned out that you were now scum with person X, would you suddenly stop attacking person X on the spot, obvious way, or would you continue to "attack" him in order to avoid making any obvious connections or changes in behavior?

In a cult game, I don't think "I've been attacking person X all game so we can't possibly be scum together today" is really a strong argument.
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Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:01 am

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Nobody Special wrote:
Darox wrote:If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the majority of points against me relate to my predecessor being crazy. Which kinda doesn't make sense to recruit, but whatever.

What's your ability (he asked innocently)?

Also, your second paragraph there is worded very strangely. Try again?

And your response, again, was odd (but that's likely just my paranoia).

Gonna answer the first question? :good:
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Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:03 am

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Now what would be the fun in that?
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Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:07 am

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Yosarian2, i guess its basically the same thinkign process you make in normal games where you have to spot the difference between town attacking scum and scum bussing scum, with the exception that in this case, a lynch on a recruit could have costed the game on day 1.

tell me whats more damning:

a) tajo constantly attacking tanarin.
b) dgb not attacking tanarin and then doing it when people start to find him scummy. (this is even scummier since tanarin was doing something that according to dgb was a scumtell at the time: tunneling against her.).
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Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:07 am

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Darox wrote:Now what would be the fun in that?


If you weren't going to fullclaim, then why did you claim at all?

Did you read through this game and decide "Hey, you know what this game needs? More vague softclaims that give the town no information and do nothing useful at all!"
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Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:11 am

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Hm, I was seriously considering a Springlullaby investigation. Glad I decided against it.

I like DGb's scumputer. But I would put less emphasis on Day 2. Once I claimed the result, the porochaz lynch was 98% guaranteed, so I don't think the wagon means much.

Bunnylover wrote:Dislike that we killed ABR off :(. We needed him to counter act Kinetic, but oh well.

We were going to have to eliminate one of them first and the other second regardless. This is fine.
Nobody Special wrote:Wait.

You're UPSET that we, as TOWN, are one step closer to winning? What. The. FUCK.


Vote: Bunnylover

Both kinetic and the town are closer to winning.
IIRC, this is the second time you have found something suspicious that I don't think is reason for suspicion (the first was a Day 1 comment on something that was a hypothetical association tell).

Bunnylover wrote:and therefore it would be who sent in their action first.

Do you know something I don't?

DrippingGoofball wrote:Therefore, I'm quite certain that some Kinetic recruits will be found among the players that voted for me yesterday to support their recruiter's agenda that I was supposed to be an ABR recruit.

I could believe that.
We're going to have to consider the possibility that Kinetic recruited you some time after his attempt to lynch you, but that is obviously not as likely as you being town.

DrippingGoofball wrote:ABR had two recruits. Porochaz, who was cop-caught Day 2 (so culted N0 or n1), and Katsuki, who was culted N1 or N2. One of their recruitment attempts seems to have failed. Porochaz and Katsuki were convinced I was recruited by Kinetic. They were rabid.

Albert could have been lying, but he said that he recruited:
N0: porochaz
N1: katsuki
N2: ThAdmiral (failed)

Battousai is coming off as probtown today against the pressure from ooba, and I don't think ooba's claim was useful. I don't think Batt needs to claim anything further.

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Yosarian2 wrote:ML is probably town. I can confirm that he jailkept me again last night.


How does that make him non-recruit?


If he had gotten recruited, wouldn't he be blocking the claimed cop or something now instead?

Anyway, you can't lynch him. He's the guy who's keeping me town.

I think it's likely that recruits don't know they have been recruited until after they have sent in their actions, so he could have been recruited last night.

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Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:13 am

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No quicklynching, please. I have a feeling we have things to accomplish today.
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Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:13 am

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Herodotus is good enough for me.

Unvote, vo-

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