Mini 1202 Smalltown Mafia (Game Over!)

[Beck]

click my wiki, dont be lazy

Didn't realize you had one, apologies

[VP Baltar]

No its trash, by anyone who does it.

sure thing mafia pro. All six of your completed newbie games were probably really good experience for you to determine that all meta is useless....

[hiplop]

No its trash, by anyone who does it.

sure thing mafia pro. All six of your completed newbie games were probably really good experience for you to determine that all meta is useless....

years of experience off site. Also, i've played a large amount of Normals and some themes.

Meta is universally terrible.

[VP Baltar]

ok

[Beck]

Actually where I played before my mafia meta was obvious, partly why I came here lol

[Panacea]

I am pretty sure no one but Juls is going to care about that ultimatum and will pay no attention to it, pretty sure.

Sorry, used to more erratic players.

And you did flipflop on Beck, that's what "Beck's questions seem a lot more genuine to me now" seems to me like.

Nah, he just seems more genuine in the Beck/Juls debacle than he has yet. He's by no means cleared in my book, but he's moving down in scumminess.

My V/LA has just been extended from July 15-25 due to a death in the family

My condolences, Juls.

Panacea > hiplop > Beck


More later (possibly).

So... Is it later yet? I'd like to hear your thoughts on Beck.

@Beck: From your post #12, what were Hiplop's "molehills"?

Before I forget, Beck, you said in your #19 that you'd look over the charter/Baltar game when you got to a computer. Did you ever do it?

Okay, so now I'm going to admit my nerdiness. Going to the HP7; pt.2 premier tonight, so I might not be able to post again until tomorrow. Might be able to sneak in a limited mobile, though.

[Beck]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Charter. Nitpicking way too much for page 3. From what i remember; he never played like this, grasping for too many straws, too quickly.

Mountains out of molehills

[Beck]

Don't post during that movie dudette

[Panacea]

Gotcha, thank you.

Also, no way! But I'm going to be in line for 5 hours before it starts, so...

[Beck]

Oh yeah. Bring a flip cam and film it (jk)

[jasonT1981]

10th Vote Count of Day 1:

Hiplop - 2 (Beck, pappums rat)
Beck - 2 ( Juls, Hiplop)
Panacea - 2 (Phoebus, charter)
pammums rat - 1 ( Budja)
Budja 1 (VPBaltar)

Not voting (Panacea)

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day One will end no later than Monday July 25th at 6:30PM CST

[charter]

2) I actually like Panacea's play after she gets her head on straight. Charter's vote on her is bullshit and sets off huge alarm bells for me. I haven't liked your play for much of this game charter because your de facto argument is 'people not contributin,' which is a very easy thing for a veteran of MS to attack noobs for and still look legit. Yeah, she flips her read on Beck after her giant PBPA. I hated that PBPA post as much as anyone. However, her follow up posts are pretty decent scumhunting and it is obvious she is really trying at that point. I think it's pretty illogical for you first to attack her for not scumhunting and then to follow that up by attacking the scumhunting she does do when starts putting more effort in. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Of course I am going to attack people for not posting content, it's scummy. And the majority of my qualms about Hiplop is how he gave bad reasoning for voting me, and then when called on it, he backtracked, and then was called on it again and then changed it. My latest vote on Panacea has nothing to do with her lack of content (though that certainly isn't helping her case), it has to do with my belief that she's faking scumhunting. I don't think I've said more than two sentences about Budja, and he's fluffposting like a heavyweight champ. My reasons for suspecting who I do is not 'people not contributin', which is obvious if you were reading my posts and not what you want to read.



(My late condolences Juls, missed it before)

[pappums rat]

No its trash, by anyone who does it.

Meta is universally terrible.

These are opinions, not facts. Meta can be useful sometimes if the person uses it correctly.

Also, so that I can get on with this game, please hiplop answer these questions the next time you are on:

How is Beck hypocritical?
Do you really think being "snarky" is a scumtell?
How am I trying to make myself look town?
What about charter's beginning actions were scummy?
In what way does charter not seem sincere to you? Please give examples and tell me why they are not sincere.

[hiplop]

Didn't i post the answers already?

[hiplop]

must have forgot to click submit! gosh im stupid! K ill get on it

[hiplop]

How is Beck hypocritical? Going after others for fluff, then posting useless questions, pretty much his entire qrgument on me can be used on him etc etc.
Do you really think being "snarky" is a scumtell? yes, in fact its one of the biggest scumtells
How am I trying to make myself look town? lots of typing; not much content, using meta that isnt justifiable etc
What about charter's beginning actions were scummy? i posted this lots of times, he was going way too strong too early, trying to get a newer player lynched, and hes stuck with that phylosophy all game.
In what way does charter not seem sincere to you? Please give examples and tell me why they are not sincere.
ISO#2 - Doesn't sound sincere at all, this is his 3rd post, and only on the second page, already has a definite scum and 2 other probable scums; has kept the same thoughts all game
ISO#3 - Snarky post, rude, all bad posting until the part where he votes me and down
ISO11 - Another scummy post, completely ignores my response to his post, paints in poor lighting.

that good enough rat?

[charter]

Boy, did I take my vote off Hiplop too early or what. Going to stick with Panacea right now though.

[VP Baltar]

Dear Budja,

Where are you?

Sincerely,

Me

[Budja]

...and here I am.

I followed you once Baltar, it was a particulary blatent following but still just the once (unless you count Pheobus which was following but I consider this following the wagon itself not any person on it.).
I know my play has been especially bad lately but I am trying to overcome that despite what it may seem like.

than his last post he acts like hip hasn't been at L-2 for 4 days now when he asks about the pressure with hip.

1. If hiplop ever reached L-2, I can't see where and it was never long enough to regester in the vote count.
2. hiplop was on two votes, but so were panacea, charter, pammum all around the same time.

Likewise.. I didn't unvote because I was the only one left of Phoebus nor did I simply go for Juls on a following a feeling.

I'd like Budja to explain why he sheeps VP and Charter on 2 of his votes

@Beck, maybe because I liked their cases/raised points.What kind of answer were you expecting anyway?

You call it scumhunting Beck but you are picking a theory and twisting my words to suit it. (Someone may of something similar earlier in the thread, or I read it somewhere else recently. Regardless thats what I am seeing.)

unvote, vote Beck

[Beck]

budja, I suggest you check the vote counts again\

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... er_sort=Go

hiplop was L-2 in 3 of them

[Beck]

and for the record, look at your votes, it's quite obvious you sheep him

[VP Baltar]

Why do you feel your play has been especially bad lately Budja? I mean, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt because of [redacted], but I do think you were sheeping me twice (Phoebus included).

What are your current thoughts on Panacea? on Juls?

[Beck]

Budja, how is it that you were oblivious to the fact hip was at l-2 for at least 4 days and 100 or so posts, especially when one of your posts came right after a vote count?

Why are you trying to downplay that Hip was under serious suspicion since he had 3 votes on him and it seemed that the more votes he got, the harder Juls came at me

And you need to explain better, why you seem to be sheeping everyone, if you agree with others points at least put them in your own words, sheeping is scummy.

I mean your vote on me is probably your most original thought, except it's lacking substance. What theory am I picking and how am I twisting your words around?

[charter]

I think I'm just going to vote whoever of Budja, Hiplop, or Panacea posts most recently. It's like the scum olympics and each time they post, they go for the gold.

unvote, vote Budja

[hiplop]

I think I'm just going to vote whoever of Budja, Hiplop, or Panacea posts most recently. It's like the scum olympics and each time they post, they go for the gold.

unvote, vote Budja

forshadow much?