@Jason: I feel I must remind you before the mod does, since you've been escalating.
Rules wrote:10.Gratuitous use of caps lock (or the appearance thereof) can and will get you warned, modkilled, or force-replaced. Mod discretion. If you think it's overkill, it probably is.
But that's it, I am now going to spend an hour talking in little baby words to explain EXACTLY what Jason was saying and Nintendo (and Hiraki to a lesser extent) has misrepped him so thoroughly.
Let's do a little preliminary first, though. Jason is not the only one Nintendo has tried misrepping. Hiraki, too:
nintendoaddict1 wrote:Hiraki wrote:Toog is town.
...
Other than that, Toog is mighty fine. His first vote is actually glorious.
Hiraki wrote:But that's the point.
Scum don't take these high risk maneuvers. They fit in with the crowd.
Toog has done too many things that aren't good townie to allow me to see him as town.
Hiraki wrote:Ender, and probably Jason.
First you say Toog is town, then you don't see him as town, now you don't put him in your scumlist?
While this one isn't as blatant as the others, Hiraki's post was an obvious, obvious spelling error. Oh wait, Nintendo tried to keep pushing the issue:
nintendoaddict1 wrote:Hiraki wrote:The second is written incorrectly.
What I meant to say is that Toog has done too many things that have been noted to be scummy or radical. He hasn't fit in with the crowd, he's made himself stand out.
Can scum do this? Yes.
Are we lynching plausible scum who can do this on D1? No.
Excuses for a mistake you didn't catch before posting.
AND SO IT BEGINS:
jasonT1981 wrote:Hiraki wrote:Marco is a newbie though.
So? you can't just give people free passes on the Newbie card, its dangerous. Scummy is scummy regardless of new or seasoned. If you think someone is scummy, you vote them.
Interesting defending here I feel.
The post that started it all. In little baby words:
"Just because someone is a new player does not mean you should say 'that person is just a big dumb new person so what he says is not evil.' Evil is evil even if that person is a big dumb new person. If you think someone is evil, you vote them because you think that person is evil. I think it is wierd that you are saying [Marco] is not evil because he is a big dumb new person because most people do not say that."
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"we should kill the big dumb new person because he is big dumb new person
Hiraki wrote:We're not lynching a newbie D1.
The reason you're being so opportunistic is disgusting.
The chain of misreps begins its terrible, terrible life. Curse you, Hiraki.
jasonT1981 wrote:Hiraki wrote:We're not lynching a newbie D1.
The reason you're being so opportunistic is disgusting.
Im not suggesting we lynch a newbie day 1 and no where have I said that.
WHAT IS SAID:
"I am not saying we should kill a big dumb new person because he is a big dumb new person and I have not said that should kill a big dumb person in other sayings."
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"I am not saying we should kill a big dumb new person because he is a big dumb new person but I am thinking about killing the big dumb new person because he is a big dumb new person tomorrow just because."
Hiraki wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:Hiraki wrote:We're not lynching a newbie D1.
The reason you're being so opportunistic is disgusting.
Im not suggesting we lynch a newbie day 1 and no where have I said that.
You didn't say that, but it's a fact that Macro is a newbie.
He's your lynch for tomorrow, don't lie.
*facepalm*
I redirect you to
the post where I originally rip apart the case, in which I refer to the Loaded Question.
jasonT1981 wrote:Hiraki wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:Hiraki wrote:We're not lynching a newbie D1.
The reason you're being so opportunistic is disgusting.
Im not suggesting we lynch a newbie day 1 and no where have I said that.
You didn't say that, but it's a fact that Macro is a newbie.
He's your lynch for tomorrow, don't lie.
False, I do not setup lynches on a day to day basis nor do I chain lynch. I do not even see Marco as scummy right now. I was just pointing out you cant excuse scummy on the newbie card.
Very nice misrep.
WHAT IS SAID:
"You are wrong and I do not kill plan to kill big dumb new persons after killing other people. I do not think the big dumb new person [Marco] is evil. I was just saying that you can't say the big dumb new person isn't evil because he is a big dumb new person. You are good at saying I said things I didn't say.
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"LOL I still think the big new person should die because he is a big dumb new person.[/i]
Hiraki wrote:Of course you don't in game, but I'm just saying what's in your head.
*slapping sounds*
Jason wrote:how do you know what is in my head?
WHAT IS SAID:
"How can you know things other people, like me since you talk to me, think?"
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"Wow I was thinking that and you knew I was thinking that you are amazing."
Hiraki wrote:inception.
The funny part is, you've never denied that this wasn't in your head.
Your turn shall come.
*slap* *slap*
nintendoaddict1 wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:how do you know what is in my head?
Wait, you're not den- hold on. Lookie what was on the next page!
Hiraki wrote:The funny part is, you've never denied that this wasn't in your head.
FoS jason
*Oh god! oh god the pain its in my head-*
Jason wrote:^^ lol nice try.
"LOL you are good at saying things I did not say.
Jason wrote:I think it is self evident what my last post meant.. you are both attempting to put words in my mouth.
WHAT IS SAID:
"It is very obvious what I just said ['You are good at saying things I did not say']. [Hiraki and Nintendo] are saying things I did not say."
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"Oh man you big meanies caught me being evil."
Still not denying it. I'd vote you, but my vote is already on your partner.
jasonT1981 wrote:nintendoaddict1 wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:I think it is self evident what my last post meant.. you are both attempting to put words in my mouth.
Still not denying it. I'd vote you, but my vote is already on your partner.
Stop pushing something on something I didn't even say. You are now pushing a case of ' What you were thinking but didn't say in thread' which is complete BS. How do you know what I was or was not thinking.
Lets see...
I say It is not right to give a pass on a Newbie, even though I don't think he did anything scummy. I would not use the newbie card if I did think he was scummy as a way to explain it.
It gets majorly twisted to I was setting up a lynch tomorrow.
I say no... the case is now I was thinking it, and didn't deny it.
Its not up to me to deny it, it is now up to you as my accuser to prove I was thinking that.... can you do that? if not, then you have nothing. Your case is weak at best.
WHAT IS SAID:
"Stop saying I said things I didn't say, because I didn't say them. Because you cannot find me saying bad words you are now saying I am 'thinking bad words' and that is dumb. You cannot know what other people, like me, are thinking. I say it is not good to say a big dumb new person is not evil because he is a big dumb new person, but I don't think that big dumb new person is scummy. I would not explain [Marco] being evil by saying he is a big dumb new person, because if I thought a big dumb new person was evil I would vote that person. [Hiraki] says things I didn't say, those bad words that I didn't say being 'I am evil and want to kill the big dumb new person for being a big dumb new person.' So I say I didn't say those words I didn't say, because I didn't say those words, and so [Hiraki] says that I was thinking those bad words but didn't say the bad words because I am evil. It is not up to me to say I was not thinking words I did not think, because I was not thinking those bad words. It is up to [Nintendo] to prove that I was thinking those bad words, but since you can't prove I was thinking those bad words then you should not be saying I was thinking about those bad words. Even at its very best possible being your case is very bad."
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"oh no they caught be thinking bad words with there mind pwoer what do i do now becaus i am evil?!!!111"
Nintendo wrote:Pushing on something you didn't say? Exactly! You still haven't denied it being true. Three times now you have dodged this issue while redirecting to me. Never said I knew what you were or were not thinking, how's that for pushing something I didn't say? You're doing the same thing now.
It's not that I think you were setting up a lynch, but your refusal to deny that was what you were doing in the first place that makes you scummy.
Why is it not up to you to deny it? We are questioning YOU about something YOU did, yet, You will not answer unless we have evidence? How about dodging the issue here? Is that not enough evidence for you?
Reading these words is like punching a molten hot rod through my dick. It is brain poison.
Jason wrote:What is it exactly I did apart from attacking someones stance of giving a newbie a seemingly free pass for something he would vote a non newbie for?
WHAT IS SAID:
"What did I do other than say I disagree with someone saying a big dumb new person is not evil because he is a big dumb new person. [Hiraki] would vote for [Marco] for what [Marco] did if [Marco] was not a big dumb new person."
WHAT IS NOT SAID:
"if i can't see it it can't see me i so scared
TO BE CONTINUED...