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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:51 am

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Faraday wrote:
Magua wrote:


Which was well after the claim, is more likely to come from cult or town?

Lost Butterfly wrote:I guess by POE CES could be mafia.


Why mafia and not cult?

Cult. Which makes you less likely CL, but I'll need to read to make sure, i.e. what were the actual chances he could get you lynched day 2 and if he was just doing it half heartedly.

Just don't see him as cult, that and I'm really struggling to see 4 mafia at this stage.

Apologies.
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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:04 am

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I'm just going to ignore benmage from this point on.
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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:04 am

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@Mod:
Do kills come before or after recruits in the action resolution?

(Or: If a townsperson is killed the night they are recruited, do they flip as townsperson or as recruit?)
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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:05 am

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Benmage wrote:Newsflash if scum outnumber town, town can never win.


Is that true?
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:06 am

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Vote Count


Empking (1)
- Benmage
Benmage (1)
- Empking
Nexus (1)
- Thor665

Not Voting (8)
- Bogre, Lost Butterfly, Magua, Nexus, Cogito Ergo Sum, SpyreX, Hinduragi, Espeonage

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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:06 am

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the answer to that is fairly obvious surely, Magua. recruitment would come last.
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:08 am

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i mean no one would ever recruit agm last night anyway.
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:09 am

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Magua wrote:
@Mod:
Do kills come before or after recruits in the action resolution?

(Or: If a townsperson is killed the night they are recruited, do they flip as townsperson or as recruit?)
A townsperson will flip townsperson if killed on the night they are recruited.
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:12 am

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Magua's question makes me feel warmer and fuzzier about magua some.

Sure we can do this:

Lynches everywhere!

From here! To There!

Why?
U
naware!

With glee!
N
ow share!

Unvote, Vote: Lynchmepls

R
eally tired and couldn't think of more sing song.


The other part is sneeeakier.

"A bear there was,"
"A bear, A BEAR!
"All black and brown,"
"And covered with hair!

"Oh come they said,"
"Oh come to the fair!"
"The fair? said he,
"But I'm a bear!"
"All black and brown,"
"And covered in hair!"


I'm not a poet but I tried to rhyme like the SoIAF classic ditty: "The Bear and the Maiden Fair"

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Massclaim or not doesn't bug me much. My only paranoia lies in 'All PRs = unrecruitable'. Which doesn't make sense to me.

I also want benmage lynched TODAY god in heaven.
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:20 am

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SpyreX wrote:Magua's question makes me feel warmer and fuzzier about magua some.

Sure we can do this:

Lynches everywhere!

From here! To There!

Why?
U
naware!

With glee!
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ow share!

Unvote, Vote: Lynchmepls

R
eally tired and couldn't think of more sing song.



:neutral: :? :igmeou:
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:22 am

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Make all the squiggly faces you want.

The goal was something to support what I was saying without a.) getting me killed AND b.) hopefully getting 'recruited' once.
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:24 am

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"Unaware" is a weird word to use there, so I think I buy it.
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:45 am

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So we need a CR today and not a cr or this is going to be borked:

2. Bogre - Not CR
3. Thor665 - Not CR
7. Lost Butterfly - If cult, probably culted last night.
9. Empking - If cult, CR.
10. Magua - Giant twirling butterflies.
11. Nexus - If cult, CR.
12. Cogito Ergo Sum - If cult, culted last night. Not CR.
15. SpyreX - Hero
16. Hinduragi - -probably- not CR. Definitely not culted last night which makes me think not cult (I'll explain).
17. Benmage - Cult. Probably not CR.
19. Espeonage - Not Cult.

Here's my guess for recruits in no way set in stone:
Benmage N2, AGM N3, (LB/CES/Dark Horse Canidate) N4.
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:50 am

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I'm going to do a full VCA later but:

Benmage (5) - Empking, SpyreX, vezokpiraka, Lost Butterfly, Hinduragi
Lost Butterfly (5) - Benmage, Thor665, Nexus, AlmasterGM, CyberSet

Not Voting (4) - Locke Lamora, Magua, LynchMePls, Espeonage


This one holds the keys to the universe. I smell it.
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:54 am

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So...you don't want Benmage lynched today...gawd in heaven.
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:56 am

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NO lets not misconstrue here.

I want the head dead. If I don't feel comfortable on the head I want benmage dead and let god sort out the other side.
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:57 am

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I.E. remember the garbage yesterday? Vezok was pretty much guaranteed mafia and got lynched.

Benmage is pretty much guaranteed cult. However, I want to hunt for bigger cult game first.
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:10 am

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How am I cult?
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:10 am

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Vote: Empking
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:25 am

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Ok.

AlmasterGM was not recruited N3, the night after he jumped onto the hasdgfas wagon, putting it at L-1, with a post that was literally:

Almaster GM #1271 wrote:
Unvote, vote: cow

L-1


He wasn't recruited N4 because of mod answer.

So he was recruited N2.

Which means that Hinduragi was not recruited N2. I don't believe in Hinduragi-cult-recruiter. I don't think Hinduragi would be recruited N3 (because of hammer) or N4, either.

At this point, I'm in favor of a mass name claim; not abilities nor recruitability. Actually, what I really want to know is if anyone claims Embodiment of the Crone.

Slightly relatedly, my gut is telling me that Empking is mafia, not cult; there's too many similarities between his reads and AlmasterGM's reads D2, which reads more as "buddying," which I'm not seeing between a recruiter and a soon-to-be-recruit.
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:34 am

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Magua wrote:

Slightly relatedly, my gut is telling me that Empking is mafia, not cult; there's too many similarities between his reads and AlmasterGM's reads D2, which reads more as "buddying," which I'm not seeing between a recruiter and a soon-to-be-recruit.


That's logical. Shame you had to ruin it with a random mafia accusation :cry:
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:34 am

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I'd like to know about the Crone too.

Interesting note: Empking called for a Maguavigkill, not a benmagevigkill.
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:36 am

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Empking wrote:That's logical. Shame you had to ruin it with a random mafia accusation :cry:


You asking "Is this true?" in regards to a mafia theory question is incredibly out of character for you.
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:42 am

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Magua wrote:
Empking wrote:That's logical. Shame you had to ruin it with a random mafia accusation :cry:


You asking "Is this true?" in regards to a mafia theory question is incredibly out of character for you.


Why?

CES: What's interesting about that?
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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:45 am

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If we assume benmage is a recruit as seems likely, the fact that you've tunneled on him for a while now but pushed someone else for the vig seems awfully convenient. The mechanics of the vig meant that even a recruit shot would be something that the cult would try to avoid, I would think.
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