Mystery Box Mafia - Game Over

[SpyreX]

Hold up.

You DIDNT kill DK?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Sooooo...

Neruz is still alive and he shouldn't be. Unless anyone wants to claim mass rb again...

vote: Neruz

~Rhinox

So Junox let’s talk about this …

Here’s what you said about your ability –

I am a Vigilante but my kill only works on town. I killed Toon Fighter night one /cry.
Night two Neruz was our target but he didn't die.

So you claimed a N1 kill on Toon Fighter.

Let’s look at deaths via Mod confirmation.

Toon Fighter, Town Time Manipulator, blew up Night 1

DeityKabuto, Vanilla Town, blown up Night 3

So according to the Mod (with some Tense difference) DK died by the same flavor as ToonFighter.

Why again should Neruz be dead when you apparently killed DK?
Are you disavowing the DK kill?

--

@MOD – Is the DK death flavor (blown up) supposed to be “blew up” like Toon Fighter?

[Seraphim]

Vote Count:

inHimshallibe(1)

- Sathoris

Rikana(2)

- LobsterCatapult, MagnaofIllusion

DeathNote(1)

- danakillsu

danakillsu(1)

- Rikana

Neruz(3)

- inHimshallibe, Junox, Empking

Not Voting(5)

- DeathNote, SpyreX, CooLDoG, Neruz, Gammagooey

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2011-07-24 19:38:00)

Is the DK death flavor (blown up) supposed to be “blew up” like Toon Fighter?

The two kill flavors should be the same, yes.

Also, Gammagooey replaces jmj3000 as of now.

[Gammagooey]

Heya, got my role PM, reading the game later today. Anything I should keep in mind aside from the flips on the front page?
Already have a the general idea of the mechanic from skimming some of the early game.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Is the DK death flavor (blown up) supposed to be “blew up” like Toon Fighter?

The two kill flavors should be the same, yes.

Also, Gammagooey replaces jmj3000 as of now.

Welcome Gamma.

Also based on the above quote

ANYONE

who votes for Neruz from this point out is claiming scum.

Julox needs to explain this push right now.

[Junox]

Well you guys aren't any fun. We did in fact target DK and were trying a gambit today to get the reaction out of Neruz we didn't get yesterday due to the RB claim coming before Nerus said anything. I (rhinox) got the idea after inhim started drawing attention to neruz's posts that came after the RB was announced.

We do still think Neruz is scummy and is alive when he shouldn't be (

hehe clever choice of wording kekeke

>.> ), but we do not have the "investigation" result to back it up.

I was hoping players who realized it was a gambit would stay mum on it until neruz reacted. No offense intended to neruz but I didn't think he was paying close enough attention to think gambit and thus we would get an honest reaction.

~Rhinox

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: inhim

[danakillsu]

@ MoI
So Primate and DK were town. That doesn't greatly surprise me. Moving on...
The fact still stands that with obvious vig abilities going around (given the huge amount of night kills), and knowing that the mafia kill would not be blocked, DeathNote used a mass-roleblock ability. How could it possibly help us to essentially make everyone vanilla for a night? This is obviously a game of a lot of power roles, and town has more than scum does, because there are more townies than mafia.

[LobsterCatapult]

I'm not concerned about Lobster. He has nothing against me, just something someone else said.

Vote: Danakillsu

you are scum. im about to sink your battleship.

your vote on ychan, your first post is stupid. you call your pressure vote a pressure vote, say its ambiguous and that you dont know what it means but stating its a pressure vote, thus removing all purpose from it.

your 77 comes across as stuffy and fake, and a most probable distance from xvart, putting your vote on your scumbuddy, a safer vote, than putting one on DN, the TRUE opportunistic vote on your "wagon", thus actually may having to defend/create a case agaisnt DN rather than "opportunism" something scum can point out just as easily as scum.

your mild threat on juls is noted in your 91.

your 114 is a probable whiteknight of ychan(sk). you say this.

Just an obv. newbie. There's no reason that Yami needs pressure, because there's a good chance she'll flail.

Cut the crap.

So what if everyone is after you? Should you start caring about them now, even though you know they're wrong? Prove them wrong. Beat the odds. Stop complaining about every single little detail, and start scumhunting now. If not, then I will be wrong and feel stupid for being wrong. If you want that, then I may cause mental infliction on myself for your sake.

your next post is

VOTING

ychan for something that she is already doing something that you said shed do as

TOWN

. FLAIL.

#182 is quite good with theory. It also makes my thoughts of xvart scum go away.

However, my mood and opinion do change. I hope you realize this.

LLD is null guys. You can't tell if she opened a box as town or scum.

#301 is neruz opportunity part 2.

LOL NO GET LYNCHED. you are basically saying that you think xvart is now No longer scum, but then you say...well of course i can change my mind.

Finding DK scum is not possible unless he's found guilty, slipped or something else that's tangible and leads to scum. His entire meta leads to a null basis because of his incoherent and outright horrible logic.

I thought you knew this.

sooo dk....is....not worth lynching/is town/

what happened here?

Add Lobster to my list.

Forgot about him.

Unvote, Vote: DK

soo...im assuming im added to your scum list. well then....why are you voting for someone IM voting for?! especially someone you said wasn't worth a lynch earlier that day.

your vote on dk was opportunistic and weak, along with your vote on primate, weak.

[Neruz]

Um, wow.

VOTE: Empking

I just ISOed Empking, he's active lurking so hard it hurts.

[Gammagooey]

In the mid 30s, Lobster is looking like a really good lynch from her day 1 play around xvart and ReaperCharlie, and Deathnote looks like a decent lynch from his uselessness day 1 and being on RC's top 3 scumlist with the dead jester and a kondi (who looked like he was only on the list for calling RC scum).
Should be done reading by either late tonight or tomorrow, sorry for making you wait for it.

[Neruz]

Seriously, ISO Empking, his last like ten posts have basically been little more than him jumping on whatever wagon looks promising with no interaction whatsoever.

[Gammagooey]

@Neruz: Empking is eh. kondi looked pretty town though.

Lobster's most recent post is about 1000x better than the rest of her iso and looks like legitimate scumhunting so let's do this:

Vote: DeathNote

Cooldog and Junox are both Townz by the way. With a capital T.

[CooLDoG]

@junox, who was your first kill target?
@rikana, scum list.
@neruz, Scum list also.
I'm not so sure about inhim right now. I'm going to have to do some re-reading. My gut says town, but I'm not 100% on that.
Neruz is high on my lynch list and rikana too. Once I get back (Yay, I haven't left yet so I can still post!!!) I will probably do a helluva an iso read.

[Neruz]

I'm not really sure i have a scum list. Empking looks terrible on ISO and for some reason i feel that MoI is scummy. But i don't really have a lot right now. All the craziness with roles and boxes and modkills and whatnot has really derailed my train of thought.

I might just have to fall back on looking for the scum trying to lynch me at this rate.

[Empking]

Seriously, ISO Empking, his last like ten posts have basically been little more than him jumping on whatever wagon looks promising with no interaction whatsoever.

Firstly, not true.
Secondly, semi-cop results.

[Neruz]

Seriously, ISO Empking, his last like ten posts have basically been little more than him jumping on whatever wagon looks promising with no interaction whatsoever.

Secondly, semi-cop results.

What does this even mean?

[LobsterCatapult]

@Neruz: Empking is eh. kondi looked pretty town though.

Lobster's most recent post is about 1000x better than the rest of her iso and looks like legitimate scumhunting so let's do this:

Vote: DeathNote

Cooldog and Junox are both Townz by the way. With a capital T.

i was v/la for most of d2. and day 3...well, yeah.

but now im back.

and you should really switch rikana. i dont think they are scum together, and rikana is superscum. like, questionable gas station bathroom scum.

im also not feeling that MoI is super townie this game....but he is voting rikana.

[Empking]

Seriously, ISO Empking, his last like ten posts have basically been little more than him jumping on whatever wagon looks promising with no interaction whatsoever.

Secondly, semi-cop results.

What does this even mean?

Rhinox claimed a guilty on you twice.

[Gammagooey]

@Lobster- Rikana's early stuff with xvart doesn't look like bussing to me, it looks like Rikana messing around and having fun with her post style while voting le scumbags.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Lobster- Rikana's early stuff with xvart doesn't look like bussing to me, it looks like Rikana messing around and having fun with her post style while voting le scumbags.

Go get your scumdar checked then Gamma.

Why didn't Rikana push xvart Day 2 (you know, when it actually mattered) and why didn't Rikana hammer xvart after he basically claimed scum in thread if Day 1 Rikana had a 'scum' read on xvart via their interactions?

The answer ... because it was all concocted and for show (aka distancing).

[Rikana]

I'm too bored to make a wall, but Lobster's case is doodoo.

I'll make a bigger post later, but explain this.

Why shouldn't Neruz be alive?

[inHimshallibe]

v/la til monday morning.

[Rikana]

you are scum. im about to sink your battleship.

Battleship? I'm a Battleship? I'm the army, navy, and air force combined. This accusation of what I am is pitiful.

your vote on ychan, your first post is stupid. you call your pressure vote a pressure vote, say its ambiguous and that you dont know what it means but stating its a pressure vote, thus removing all purpose from it.

I didn't remove all purpose. It did not only create pressure for Yami Chan when it shouldn't have, like you said, but started discussion.

your 77 comes across as stuffy and fake, and a most probable distance from xvart, putting your vote on your scumbuddy, a safer vote, than putting one on DN, the TRUE opportunistic vote on your "wagon", thus actually may having to defend/create a case agaisnt DN rather than "opportunism" something scum can point out just as easily as scum.

All I can distinguish here is that you want me to make a case on DN.

your mild threat on juls is noted in your 91.

Okay? You're not noting what I'm saying, but saying nothing scummy about them.

your 114 is a probable whiteknight of ychan(sk). you say this.

Just an obv. newbie. There's no reason that Yami needs pressure, because there's a good chance she'll flail.

Cut the crap.

So what if everyone is after you? Should you start caring about them now, even though you know they're wrong? Prove them wrong. Beat the odds. Stop complaining about every single little detail, and start scumhunting now. If not, then I will be wrong and feel stupid for being wrong. If you want that, then I may cause mental infliction on myself for your sake.

your next post is

VOTING

ychan for something that she is already doing something that you said shed do as

TOWN

. FLAIL.

You know, the point of looking at points in Isolation also requires that you look at the things that happen between.

Like this little gem from Yami.

I may be new, but I am not in over my head. I'm just being targeted by people for the wrong reasons. Ironically, this happened in my very first game on the other forum. A certain individual hated that I was new and decided to target me. No matter what evidence he saw to my innocence or what powerful roles defended me, he rallied the Town against me. He ended up making himself look more like Mafia as a result, and his death provided a key clue in taking down the real Mafia. I turned out to be one of the most valuable roles in the game and uncovered this key, ensuring a Town victory. But that individual's anger only increased at having been shown up by a newbie, and it caused things on that site to go rapidly downhill. Don't be blinded by assumptions and what seems to be. I'm not playing terribly at all. Nerux and CSL are. They are rallying against me for all the wrong reasons, and their attitude in doing so makes them look more suspicious.

No reasoning why Nerux or CSL are mafia, they're just going against her for the wrong reasons.

Proof that you and Nerux are suspicious? Every single post the two of you make backs me up.

CSL's point made me go against my gut, and with logic.

#182 is quite good with theory. It also makes my thoughts of xvart scum go away.

However, my mood and opinion do change. I hope you realize this.

LLD is null guys. You can't tell if she opened a box as town or scum.

#301 is neruz opportunity part 2.

LOL NO GET LYNCHED. you are basically saying that you think xvart is now No longer scum, but then you say...well of course i can change my mind.

No, it's more like saying that while 182 is good, I still need to look at him. Y'know, when I said

I'll look into Xvart, but I'm still good with my Primate vote.

Finding DK scum is not possible unless he's found guilty, slipped or something else that's tangible and leads to scum. His entire meta leads to a null basis because of his incoherent and outright horrible logic.

I thought you knew this.

sooo dk....is....not worth lynching/is town/

what happened here?

How the hell did you get that? I just said that DKscum is impossible to find without a guilty, because his logic is bad as town or scum. I never called him scum. I just said I'm not lynching him.

Add Lobster to my list.

Forgot about him.

Unvote, Vote: DK

soo...im assuming im added to your scum list. well then....why are you voting for someone IM voting for?! especially someone you said wasn't worth a lynch earlier that day.

your vote on dk was opportunistic and weak, along with your vote on primate, weak.

Obv. DK was the only lynch plausible D2. That and it was a quite vote. You used relationships to find DK scum, while everyone else was easily able to just get rid of him. Justifying a vote that no one would care about is scummy in itself for over explanation.

Don't answer the Neruz question btw. I understand now for re-reading.

[Rikana]

YamiChan

(4) - Rikana,

CSL

,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(6) -

Lady Lambdadelta

,

YamiChan

,

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe

hohum

(1) - MagnaofIllusion
Rikana(3) - SpyreX,

xvart

, LobsterCatapult

ReaperCharlie

(5) -

Hoopla

,

Primate

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

I took out all of the people with no confirmed on their bandwagons. Neruz looks ridiculously scummy. I could see both from my investigations, but one would be more optimal. MoI is more townie, than scummy.

Those last 3 on CSL are erkkkyyyy.

Hopefully they move and stuff.

YamiChan

(3) - Rikana,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(6) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, MagnaofIllusion, LobsterCatapult

Lady Lambdadelta

(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

ReaperCharlie

(8) -

Hoopla

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

,

CSL

, kondi2424,

YamiChan

Primate

(1) -

Lady Lambdadelta

See this ReaperCharlie wagon?

It's fucking beautiful. Amazing.

If there's 25 people in the game, there has to be at least 4 scum. Neruz or Kondi have an extraordinary chance of being scum. Danakillsu looks townie here, believe it or not. So much so, that I'm going to

Unvote

Like I did yesterday. Hopefully you'll get the correlation by now.

CSL

(10) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, Juls,

YamiChan

, DeathNote,

Lady Lambdadelta

, kondi2424
Rikana(1) - SpyreX

ReaperCharlie

(5) -

Hoopla

,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

,

CSL

Neruz(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

Yami is the same as the past one, so I didn't add it. The RC is annoying, but the Neruz looks amazing, atm.

ReaperCharlie

(4) -

xvart

, inHimshallibe,

hohum

,

DeityKabuto

CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

Neruz(1) - Empking
inHimshallibe(1) - Sathoris

xvart

(3) -

Kublai Khan

, MagnaofIllusion, Junox

Primate

(1) - Rikana

inHim is probably town. MoI/Juno flip would be beautiful here.

ReaperCharlie

(2) - inHimshallibe,

hohum

CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

xvart

(9) - MagnaofIllusion,

ReaperCharlie

, Kublai Khan, Neruz, SpyreX, Sathoris,

DeityKabuto

, CoolDoG,

xvart

Primate

(1) - Rikana

DeityKabuto

(1) - Empking

Xvart is going to lead to scum. I'm highly doubtful there's only 2 scum here.

inHim is meeeeeh. He would buss here.

Junox hammers Xvart. Can't see him being scum. That would make MoI scum by association of the previous Xvart lynch. This looks beautiful.

Neruz(5) - Junox, Rikana, CooLDoG,

DeityKabuto

, LobsterCatapult

hohum

(2) - SpyreX, MagnaofIllusion

DeityKabuto

(1) - Empking

I mean, thinking about it, Lobster is probs. scum. I'm town. CooLDoG is null. If Neruz is scum, which I can't see how he's not, Lobster's vote is beautifully placed.

So, basically, from VCAs, MoI is scum, Junox is town, CooLDoG is still null, Lobster is pending scum, SpyreX is erky since he's been active and I haven't gotten an active read. Empking is still null. The others are null, if I haven't said anything.