Kind of drunk sooo let's go,
Noragar wrote:He starts off his case against me by stating that there's not much of a case against me. That alone, should be enough of a defense, but I'll go ahead and address the points he tries to make.
Holy shit man, this really is the high point of your responses. Look at it, you point out something that i OBVIOUSLY typed before i finished rereading your posts, amazing defense. Ah, i tend to make a short explanation of my current mental state and or my current opinion on the person i'm investigating before i go on, it happened before in the same game or games i linked to.
Noragar wrote:1)That's because Otolia didn't look scummy to me until after he came under pressure.
It was his reaction to the pressure being put on him by TS and chkflip that made him look scummy and caused me to vote for him. It's not a very likely bus because at the time when I made my vote on him,
2) it was far from obvious that he was going to wind up getting lynched if I didn't vote for him.
3) If I had been scum it would have been a far better option for me to try to convince people to go after Chkflip, who I had been voting for for quite some time, instead of pushing toward my partner's lynch, which was not in any way sealed at that point.
Good response... no wait.
1)Typical town response, i mean why would a player EVER get on your suspicion radar before it becomes clear he will be lynched and or gets under a very possible position to be lynched? What i'm trying to say is, you don't suspect a player because of the wagon and points made for it, you suspect a player because of your own reasons with a possible combination of other players, from what i remember (YES, REMEMBER. I forget stuff) you haven't openly expressed any suspicion on him because of your own reasons.
2)But it was very likely right?
3) Why? A bus can be worth so much more than one townie death. Besides if Otolia died and you were not voting for him, that could create a potential reason to suspect you. Careful scum would not dare to allow that.
Morthas wrote:He proceeds with pointing out the breadcrumbs before anyone else, which doesn't make sense because he is the first one to point them out,
there is a huge possibility of him noticing them on the previous day where all he did was lurk and keep his oppotunistic vote on Espe.
I can see scum doing this in order to get town cred
Noragar wrote:This argument is quite a stretch. You don't think it's a natural town reaction when somebody flips "cop", to go back to their previous posts to see if they had given any clues as to who they investigated in the past and the results of those investigations?
Because I was the first to do so, I must have noticed them the week before instead of doing so in the first couple hours after the flip?
Response to your bolded part should be found in the bolded part in my post. It's a huge POSSIBILITY, not something i point to with evidence.
Noragar wrote:You can see scum doing this to get town cred? Yes, obviously you can since you tried to get town cred by making a post (the only post of yours that shows any anaylsis at all) analyzing how you came to the conclusion that forest must have investigated chkflip after several people had already pointed that out.
Wait wait wait, i tried to get town cred AFTER several people pointed it out? Riiiiiiiight.
What my post contains is the results of my personal re read of forests behavior, with who i think she most likely investigated, i posted WHY i believed that for MY OWN reasons.
Noragar wrote:Just recognizing that based on what had been said up to that point, that this was a very likely result. Had I been scum, it would have been imperative that I survive since if the last scum were lynched, it would have been game over. That type of urgency isn't displayed here. It's more resignation that it was likely that I would be lynched, and asking that if it is inevitable, at least don't make it a quick lynch and try to gain some useful information out of it. You conveniently left off that part.
Wifom + I tend to try to make my posts as short a possible so i leave off parts that either didn't strike me as interesting or are too wifomy to talk about.
Noragar wrote:I don't exactly remember what you're referring to about my trying to make Muffin change his stance on Haylen, but I'm not going to go back and search for it since you don't seem to imply that there's anything scummy about it, so there's no need to defend it.
You tried making muffin question his defense of Haylen right after he build a case around her.
Noragar wrote:Again, why is this a scum indicator? I attempted to build a case? Yes, I'm guilty of attempting to build a case. I freely admit it. Post more frequently? It's only natural that as the number of players decreases, that the ones left would be posting more frequently.
It's a scum indicator for when scum feel like they are under control and feel less pressured when posting. You are guilty of having inconsistent behavior throughout the game. It is natural for normal player but not for players who have been practically been lurking for the whole first 2 days.
eally, you're going to close out your argument by saying I must be the scum because I was lurking? Well if that isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black...
Look above^^
Noragar wrote:Also, you posted a while back that you had something in the Otolia voting that indicated I was scum. I'd like to see details on that also. I'm curious why you find someone that had an active hand in leading to the scum lynch to be more suspicious than someone who stayed clear of the voting.
First, point me to the post you are refering to and the second part ill have to get back to later since i'm slightly out of the mental state i prefer to be before thinking.
Was it:
1. You were "scum skimming" and didn't realize that TS had been proven town?
2. You thought that (confirmed doc) Muffin might have been intentionally trying to sabotage the game by lying about TS's alibi.
3. You were trying to set up the "brilliant" combo of seeming less sure about TS, then coming back after the night kill to say "Dang, i was hoping evil would get shot.". You really thought gbevil would be influenced by that??
4. Some other reason.
Numbah 3 lD
A silly but hopeful plan, i was trying to influence scum to shoot Evil because due to their logical pathtrack.
Yawn, too tired so i'm going to finish posting sometime later. So far Noragar ain't changing my mind.
P-Edit: Yawn, later. Noragar doesn't have much of a case against me, not one that i am aware of atleast. Working on the defense thing right now.
