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[Giitah]

Ah, okay.

[Soben]

We are nearing deadline ITS TOMORROW so

vote: Giitah

for still being my top suspect at the moment

L-1

Giitah, how has my play been different this game from other games? If that is true, which I will concede it very well could be, why does that make you suspect me?

If this gets hammered and is wrong and I die, please, please, please consider all options if it goes to a 3 way lylo situation.

[Scumhunter]

We are nearing deadline ITS TOMORROW so

vote: Giitah

for still being my top suspect at the moment

L-1

Giitah, how has my play been different this game from other games? If that is true, which I will concede it very well could be, why does that make you suspect me?

If this gets hammered and is wrong and I die, please, please, please consider all options if it goes to a 3 way lylo situation

Le sigh at above post. That is hydra account. Sorry mod

[Giitah]

It doesn't make me suspect you, but it makes me wary of you if anything, Scumhunter. You normally play semi-aggressively both as town and Mafia and you're playing neither here. It makes me think you might be Mafia, but I'm allowing my gut feelings to override that.

If I die, be persistent tomorrow guys. Don't give up. Read up on lylo situs and review. I've already said my feelings on everyone, try your best.

I still think it's Valern or Scumhunter; Hiplop reads too town for me and Ace is cleared because of the Foil incident, but again, consider all options.

[hiplop]

VOTE: Valern

best lynch for today probably, will hammer giitah before deadline if needed, though.

[Scumhunter]

unvote, vote: Valern

Ok Giitah. Fair enough.

I don't think ace is "clear" though. I find it a bit strange that all he did was comment on his top suspect (you) without really outing reads on the rest of us...

Valern's lack of commitment to the game = whatever since we have a ML and he's my #2 suspect anyways I'd feel comfortable lynching him today as well.

hiplop is town. I'd strongly suggest taking another look at ace tomorrow though if this is wrong.

[Scumhunter]

Giitah, to explain a bit about my "lack of aggression", there hasn't really been a need for aggression up until this point.

Look at the lynches that took place:
d1 Pine (due to inactivity/deadline)
d2 foilist (scumslipped to bob)
d3 xvart (it was him or nintendo 100% confirmed) I actually was pretty aggressive in wanting xvart lynched and only began to reconsider that one a little too late
d4 nintendo (confirmed scum)

Both of the scum lynches that have taken place have been outed scum already...Pine was lynched due to inactivity. The only day where a strong opinion was needed was d3, where allbeit I had the wrong opinion but nevertheless if you look just at my play d3 I think it will be much more in line with what your preconceived notion of how i play would be.

[Scumhunter]

Did I just hammer btw?

[Scumhunter]

Yes, it appears I just did. hiplop, you saying "ill change if we need to" made me think yours was the first on Valern. I was under the impression giitah had unvoted valern but looking back that is not the case.

If this is wrong, please pressure ace to contribute tomorrow in this game. I know he was V/LA today, but please don't write him off for town tomorrow if this is wrong.

[hiplop]

quickhammering again sh Tisk tisk!!

eh its fine; both are prime candidates for lynching anyway

[ace5993]

I was planning on posting longer reads on everyone (like the Giitah post) but I didn't really have time earlier ehhhh. I think Valern was probably the worst possible lynch for today, you NEVER pull an apathy/deadline lynch on someone who's asked for replacement, we could have gotten a fresh opinion on the proceedings so far. I was planning to make longer posts on everyone but it appears there isn't time so just so I can get my reads out before the end of the day:

Giitah is obviously my #1 suspect.

Hiplop is possible scum, some of his posts particularly regarding the foil debacle deserve to be looked over very closely if it comes down to LyLo tomorrow. All you guys on the "hiplop is obvtown" wagon should look at exactly where hiplop placed his vote when. There are definitely a couple oddities in his play.

Scumhunter reads solid town to me, however don't rule anyone out etc.

[pappums rat]

Vote Count 5.4 (Final vote count of Day 5)

Valern - 3 (Giitah, hiplop, Scumhunter)
Giitah - 1 (ace5993)

Not voting - Valern

Valern, Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 5.

Please have all night actions to me by 8 P.M EST on Wednesday, July 20 or it will not count.

[pappums rat]

Scumhunter, Vanilla Townie

, was shot Night 5.

With 3 alive it takes 2 votes to lynch. The deadline for Day 6 is 5 P.M. EST on Wednesday, August 3

Day 6 begins now

[Valern]

[Giitah]

After all of yesterday's talk about how absolutely town Hiplop is, it's amusing he's alive. What do you think, Hiplop?

@Valern
Hey, at least you're dead now, you don't have to suffer through this hell of trying to figure out which of these two's the killer.

[hiplop]

no idea why im alive in all honesty, probably set up of some sort.

Pretty sure its giitah still...

[ace5993]

Dammit I need to re-read hiplop again. I'm still leaning Giitah right now but hiplop is hardly stain-free imo. Re-reading both one more time in case there's anything obvious I missed.

[hiplop]

ace was pretty much unani town too, and so was scumhunter; why did you pick me out of the bunch giitah?

[Giitah]

ace was pretty much unani town too, and so was scumhunter; why did you pick me out of the bunch giitah?

There was still a shred of doubt, of the two, you were the one who was considered unanimously by the town to be town.
Going to analyze voting patterns and see what I can find.

[hiplop]

ace was pretty much unani town too, and so was scumhunter; why did you pick me out of the bunch giitah?

There was still a shred of doubt, of the two, you were the one who was considered unanimously by the town to be town.
Going to analyze voting patterns and see what I can find.

not really, SH had just as much town defense on him; scum only have one kill, they chose to kill SH over me i guess

Looking back at ace; the only scummy thing i see is the foilist thing; and i dont think that warrants scum tbh

[ace5993]

@hiplop - During the entire foilist debacle why were you voting me instead of foilist?

[hiplop]

@hiplop - During the entire foilist debacle why were you voting me instead of foilist?

i misunderstood it, i think. It seemed like you were the one at fault, instead of foilist. Also i thnik i thought you both were scum, and you were just more likely. Still gives me a bad feeling tbh

[Scumhunter]

Go Town!

[hiplop]

Guys???

[Giitah]

Ace fits the bill of being a prototypical good scum - playing it hard on Day 1 to get town points and then slowly trailing off as the days go by. We haven't had any good material from him since Day 1.

Hiplop's play has overall been the same since the beginning - I think with Hiplop, a better place to look would be at association tells, but I don't think Foilist ever even addressed Hiplop at all and Nintendo might have argued with him at some point.

I think if we ask ourselves why so-and-so player is alive at this point, we have a pretty clear-cut answer. If the scum were looking to kill an intelligent player, why do you think they chose Scumhunter over you, Ace?