ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

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Vote Count

Empking (1)

- Cogito Ergo Sum

Benmage (2)

- Empking, Magua

Nexus (1)

- Thor665

Hinduragi (1)

- Benmage

Not Voting (6)

- Bogre, Lost Butterfly, Nexus, SpyreX, Hinduragi, Espeonage

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch!

[SpyreX]

I keep entirely forgetting Nexus is in the game and no one bringing him up COULD be something but its a reach.

[Thor665]

I bring him up...though I am obvious cult who tried to lynch cult and scum yesterday, so...

[Benmage]

I'll lynch Bogre Espe or Hindu.

Scum shoot SpyreX for CL.

[Benmage]

Oh reasoning right...

He's only been quietly attacking me. An EASY target.

He's done nothing to standout. Hes middlegroundish, and never proved himself town.

[Thor665]

If Spy is the CL why isn't he on your lynch list? Who are those people on that lynch list if not CL...random scum/cult?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I keep entirely forgetting Nexus is in the game and no one bringing him up COULD be something but its a reach.

Nah.

It's benmage or Hind.

[Benmage]

If Spy is the CL why isn't he on your lynch list? Who are those people on that lynch list if not CL...random scum/cult?

They're who I think scum is.

They could be recruits...

They could be the CL.

I think they're most likely scum...tho any form on not town aint a bad thing.

I drew arrows for scum to shoot. Like I did yesterday with AGM>

[Thor665]

You called for AGM? I remember you saying he wasn't cult because I was voting him.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He technically did call for AGM at some point.

[Thor665]

My implication (subtle though it isn't) is he's trying to glom onto more credit than is his due on that call.

[Magua]

God, this game.

Let's break it down nice and easy.

Cleared of being CR
2. Bogre - Confirmed as not starting cult. So, not a recruiter. Could be recruited. Could be scum. Utterly do not care.
3. Thor665 - Confirmed as not starting cult. So, not a recruiter. Could be recruited. Could be scum. Utterly do not care.
19. Espeonage - Confirmed dayvig. May be scum. May be recruited, but unless you're going to propose cult-recruiter-with-dayvig-powers, utterly do not care.

Everyone else

7. Lost Butterfly - Meh. Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. I feel very strongly that Lost Butterfly is not scum. I also feel very strongly that they're a really good cult recruit. I also also also feel very strongly that they're not a cult recruiter. So the level of caring here is kind of low.
9. Empking - Claimed Crone. Reaction to Benmage's D4 fakeclaim supports this claim, so while it's possible that there was a claimswitch going on somewhere, it's more convoluted to get there. OTOH, Empking's play overall has sucked. OTGH, I often feel that Empking's overall play has sucked even when he's town.
11. Nexus - Had really good townread in the beginning. Has gone to shit since. Now is on V/LA till the end of the week.
12. Cogito Ergo Sum - Meh. Replaced LMP, which is more meh. The things he's said today have made sense and been logical, which is a plus, but I don't see much driving force behind it. As in, a lot of correct points are made, but it seems like little is getting pushed.
15. SpyreX - Claimed Maiden. I don't like SpyreX's play, and I've said I don't like SpyreX's play repeatedly. Inconsistencies nag at me. Figure, though, that cult-with-claim would go with a slightly stronger fakeclaim such as cult doctor, instead of simply "unrecruitable," especially given other PR claims like "unrecruitable + <power>"
16. Hinduragi - Don't think Hinduragi is cult at this point. That was based on what Hinduragi did D3, and now I'm pretty certain that AGM was recruited N2, which means Hinduragi is a cult recruiter with brass balls bigger than Texas, or he's just really bad town, and I'm very strongly thinking town.
17. Benmage - Something's fishy here. LB-guilty was a real nice D2 breadcrumb. I liked it. It showed planning ahead. But the "I'm town who's going to fakeclaim cop" mentality falls down when it comes to actually cc'ing hasdgfas. Or, to put it another way, I can see Benmage-VT-who-claims-PR. I can see Benmage-VT-who-breadcrumbs-cop. What I can't see is Benmage-VT-who-has-already-breadcrumbed-cop-cc'ing-other-cop-and-riding-their-lynch.

Benmage > Nexus > Cogito Ergo Sum > Lost Butterfly > SpyreX > Empking > Hinduragi

[SpyreX]

Magua I swear I want to have a sit down with you over some nice tea and figure out how you can ping pong so much.

Because that post I like a lot a lot.

[SpyreX]

I'm spinning my wheels though because this is a game of tug of war and I dont like it.

We hit cult today AND cult tonight and its not the PR we're still playing in screwedville some because that means tomorrow HAS to be scum.

Unvote, Vote: Ben

I can't pick out someone that screams slam dunk CR.
However, Ben is cult every which way. Maybe I'm wrong about the CR part but I'm not wrong about that.

[Hinduragi]

Benmage is either not trying to find cult or just doesn't give a fuck. His votes show that. I don't see claimed cop who tried to take the lead yesterday not giving a fuck. This is a wagon I can dig considering he likes gambits and, to be honest, I don't really have many good reads on possible CR's that aren't entirely based on lurking. Magua's post was good. AGM gunning for him and hopping off seems like he was doing it for consistency for D3. D4 he went straight for LB(over Benmage) and, after that failed, vezok. (http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p3169762) I'm not sure if you can pull this kind of post off as cult. I honestly would've lurked it out if Magua was my CR. I stand by what I said earlier about LB. I thought that was a pretty strong tell. If you didn't think DGB was obvtown before she died, you were smoking some

gooood

shit.

Vote: Ben

[Hinduragi]

EBWOP
claimed cop-turned fakeclaimed cop-turned claimed cop x2-turned fakeclaimed cop, NOT "claimed cop"

God, keeping up with that shit is confusing.

[Benmage]

Lets move this along

unvote vote Benmage

Precedents Faraday. Precedents.

After I flip town, scum shoot Spyrex for CL...unless he's yours .... than shoot Empking.

Hindu is scum as is espe, obviously ...(unless spy is scum)

There was nothing good about Magus post.

Oh and I'm scum hunting, since they are more obvious. And as the CL is more a threat than town to scum.... scum are shooting at him no matter how many I'd lynch. Win win for town.

[Magua]

Lets move this along

unvote vote Benmage

You put yourself at L-1, on a Day where a town lynched is very likely to be when the town loses plurality?

After I flip town, scum shoot Spyrex for CL...unless he's yours .... than shoot Empking.

If you think that one or both of those claims were fake, why were you voting for Hinduragi previous to your self vote?

Hindu is scum as is espe, obviously ...(unless spy is scum)

If you think that Hinduragi is scum, why were you voting for him *over* your thoughts for cult recruiter?

There was nothing good about Magus post.

Humor me. Did you expect to get counterclaimed by Embodiment of the Crone when you claimed it? What was your plan for dealing with that?

[Faraday]

WTF STOP THIS WAGON. BENMAGE DOESN'T SELF VOTE AS SCUM.

[Lost Butterfly]

like seriously, I'm pretty sure it's his shtick to self vote to prove his town.

[Lost Butterfly]

someone fucking unvote, or we could have a hammer from a cult recruit.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He might self-vote as a recruit, Faraday, or as a CR that's pretending to be one.

[Lost Butterfly]

He might self-vote as a recruit, Faraday, or as a CR that's pretending to be one.

no no I don't think he would. I'm pretty sure his self vote thing is a meta town tell he'd not abuse, as it has a 1 game advantage but costs him long term.

[Lost Butterfly]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =3&t=16256 reference

[Magua]

If Benmage is worried about a cult recruit hammering him, he can fucking well unvote himself.

You, LB, on the other hand, would do much better to say who we should be voting *for* rather than who we should not be voting.