Newbie 1120 - The Scum in Sherlock (Over!)

hiplop · Post Post #700 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:16 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Well we have slightly better odds if we lynch among the PRs than one of the non-PRs IMO. Do you agree with that?

of course. either you or shah is scum, atm im thinking its you.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #701 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:17 am

The way I see it, it's 1/3 or 2/3 odds of lynching scum in the PR pool, and 1/4 or 0/4 of lynching scum in the non PR pool.

Shahrizai · Post Post #702 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:20 am

As for D2, I started with Hellhound because I thought he was playing off Foilist's confirmed innocent and trying to get rid of the JK in the process. When he satisfied the questions I had and I realized that wasn't what he was doing, I dropped it. I've made cases on you/Torquez and Scumhunter since then, and they're pretty self-explanatory. Torquez flaked without responding to my case or questions about him, so I've been questioning Scumhunter while waiting for you to catch up.

As for hiplop, I had him as sure town when no one CC'd him. Since one of you is definitely lying, I'm going back over his play. The one thing I can say about him today is that he and Hellhound have been too focused on each other and virtually ignored everything else, which I've expressed discontent over several times. However, I have a very strong scum read on Torquez, so I'm more inclined to think the liar is you.

Also, with your plan I have a 20% chance of getting a guilty, and town would still be lynching town even if I get it wrong.

And, I can't explain Ninja's flake. Why do you think Torquez flaked early on D2, and do you think having a case on him made any difference? Also, what do you think of SH?

hiplop · Post Post #703 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:26 am

VOTE: alan

Really hope i'm right.

hiplop · Post Post #704 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:27 am

VOTE: albert

hes albert not alan >_>

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #705 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:27 am

Shahrizai wrote:Also, with your plan I have a 20% chance of getting a guilty, and town would still be lynching town even if I get it wrong.

You have a 20% chance if you plan on targetting me.....are you planning on targetting me tonight...?

Shahrizai wrote:And, I can't explain Ninja's flake. Why do you think Torquez flaked early on D2, and do you think having a case on him made any difference? Also, what do you think of SH?

Doctor is not nearly as interesting to play as cop, especially when you mess up your protect. He wasn't in danger of being completely lynched when he was gone though. If SH were scum, he would have asked for replacement by now.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #706 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:31 am

Anyone else find it strange that Shah is considering to "investigate" me tonight? Or maybe she wants to target me with something else. I don't know. Speculation.

Lynch one of them please.

Shahrizai · Post Post #707 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:40 am

I never said I was targeting you. If hiplop flipped scum, why would I?

After today's lynch, there will be five people for me to choose from. If hiplop flipped scum, then I would have a 20% chance of investigating scum tonight, as only one out of those five could be scum. Why do you assume that I meant I would investigate you if hiplop flipped scum (and why are you worried about it)?

Out of four people not including you and me I would have a 25% chance, not much better odds.

Scumhunter · Post Post #708 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:04 am

I actually like the plan of lynching hiplop today. If hiplop is scum, and we have cop + doc, its close to auto win.

If hiplop is town and albert is scum, albert would have to out himself as scum by killing the cop tonight to stop Shah from potentially finding his partner with a cop check tonight.

Scumhunter · Post Post #709 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:05 am

Shah, as cop, you cannot die without Albert outing himself as scum. Surely you see how this is valuable no? Also there is a chance you are both real and we are in great shape then.

Scumhunter · Post Post #710 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:06 am

vote: hiplop

Thor665 · Post Post #711 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:11 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I will vote for hiplop. If he flips scum, I will protect Shah. If Shah doesn't claim a guilty tomorrow, lynch her right away. If I'm right, we win. If I'm wrong about Shah, then you have 1/3 chance of lynching correctly between one scum and two townies at LYLO.

Unvote, vote hiplop

This I can get behind.

Hiplop claiming town read on Shah and then saying you're making things complicated when really, if she's town and he's town things aren't complicated at all by your claim.

hiplop · Post Post #712 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:21 am

you know i was just joking, its an avril lavigne song...

hiplop · Post Post #713 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:22 am

also im not sure shes town, just i think she is, and im pretty much sure that albert is scum now

Thor665 · Post Post #714 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:33 am

If he's scum he's playing a dangerous game of trading himself for both PRs - considering that I am neutral on how "powerful" a JKer is until there's one dead scum, and consider a 1v1 trade of cop for scum to be good - I'm content with his plan.

hiplop · Post Post #715 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:37 am

whatever, your loss.

Scum is albert for sure, and one of scumhunter/hellhound

Thor665 · Post Post #716 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:37 am

How is it our loss? You'd rather lynch Albert today and lose Shah tonight for the gain of...you?

Scumhunter · Post Post #717 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:42 am

Ok but Thor, there is one flaw in all this. What if hiplop is really JK and then neither pr dies tonight?

hiplop · Post Post #718 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:43 am

Thor665 wrote:How is it our loss? You'd rather lynch Albert today and lose Shah tonight for the gain of...you?

you're letting scum live?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #719 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:45 am

hiplop wrote:also im not sure shes town, just i think she is, and im pretty much sure that albert is scum now

I bet you do lol

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #720 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:48 am

Scumhunter wrote:Ok but Thor, there is one flaw in all this. What if hiplop is really JK and then neither pr dies tonight?

I'm think hiplop is scum but if he's not then tomorrow, if Shah get's a guilty, we lynch the guilty, if the "guilty" is town, we lynch Shah. If Shah doesn't get a guilty, I will convince you tomorrow to lynch Shah and Shah will try to convince you to lynch me. Then it will be a 1 scum 2 townie endgame.

hiplop · Post Post #721 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:50 am

but your partner is likely someone he looks pretty townie, so its a good scenario for you (scum)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #722 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:50 am

Actually Shah can claim whatever she wants if hiplop is town because tomorrow is LYLO. SO just skip to the part where Shah and I pull our hair out and scratch each other.

Thor665 · Post Post #723 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:51 am

Scumhunter wrote:Ok but Thor, there is one flaw in all this. What if hiplop is really JK and then neither pr dies tonight?

Depends on the cop result, I suppose.
I'm choosing not to outline my strategy for tomorrow for scum today.

Albert's plan is really bad if hiplop flips town though. We have to lynch scum today or tomorrow - and his plan has outlined a possible 3 mislynch contingency.

Thor665 · Post Post #724 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:51 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Actually Shah can claim whatever she wants if hiplop is town because tomorrow is LYLO. SO just skip to the part where Shah and I pull our hair out and scratch each other.

Yes.