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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:08 pm

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Hiraki wrote:It's because ICE didn't address Mastin's issue against him.


Again, what was mastin's "issue" with GI?

Went through his ISO, the only references to the GI meta crap I see are mastin asking other people about the comment GI made...

Is there something you want GI to answer, or...?

maxous wrote:I got a possible solution, tracker - target GreyICE tonight while he stabs things


You can't honestly think this is a good 'solution'...

GI wrote:So this is who I'm voting for.

Why does everyone think he's town again? Run it by me reaaaaaal slow


Yeah, well, the reason I'm on the Bowser wagon right now is because, for some weird reason, there was no support for toon fighter wagon. I could get back on the toon fighter wagon, but Bowser's continued promises of catching up and reading and whatnot followed by posts like #498... ... ...

Speaking of,

Bowser wrote:Hiraki and Empking are nice choices for scum. See how they interact with each other.


Are you saying they're scum together? Or are you saying one is scum and the other isn't?

Their interaction isn't scum-scum interaction. But if you think otherwise, do elaborate.

And, while you're at it, how about a nice long chat on your other thoughts on the game.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:47 pm

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You guys really are a pain, you know that, right?

Bowser wagon?

I mean, come on. Guy's confirmed town.

I really do hate just how many mislynches I have to shut down per game. It's like I'm the only voice of logic in a crowd of bloodthirsty, trigger-happy lunatics who want to lynch everyone.

Oh, wait. :P

(But seriously. I'm averaging at least three mislynches shut down a day.)
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:57 pm

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Yeah, so like, 5 days to the deadline. 3 replacements needed, 10 more people lurking. Fun times.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:00 pm

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Neruz seems like a smart guy. Will likely postpone the deadline a little.

Which'd give me the time I need to go all Awesomeness on You and prove why lots of the votes goin' out to people right now are mislynches.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:05 pm

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Well.

Here's how I see it.

hiplop is town, you're town, tomie I'm not too sure but I'm not convinced she's scum. Bowser has made several promises to provide content and still nothing, toon fighter is pretty much active lurking while writing scummy crap. I don't think GI's attitude is an indication he's scum, I think pappums is town. edmund is also town.

So like, apart from one or two reads here and there, I'm virtually opposite to you in all my reads.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:22 pm

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So. You think Bowser and Toon are scum.
That's it?

We have five.

Bowser and Toon are easy mislynch targets. (As is hiplop.)
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:46 pm

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mastin2 wrote:So. You think Bowser and Toon are scum.
That's it?

We have five.

Bowser and Toon are easy mislynch targets. (As is hiplop.)

Then who the Fuck are we lynching mister smartypants.

You do know that sometimes easy targets are scum right?
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:00 pm

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Sometimes?

Yeah.

This time?

Nope.
mastin2 wrote:SCUM:
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:00 am

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mastin wrote:So. You think Bowser and Toon are scum.
That's it?

We have five.

Bowser and Toon are easy mislynch targets


I was just going off what I remember of your town and scum reads and telling you which ones I agreed/disagreed with. Apart from like hiplop, I'm getting pretty much opposite reads.

The only one I could
maybe
agree with in that scum list is Empking, and that's only because I'm mostly null on him. I'm probably wrong about one other, too.

Look, let's say we run up GI for lynching today. The prospect sounds interesting purely because it's bound to produce a lot of rage. But what are you going to do if he flips town? Still pursue the rest of your scum list or reevaluate things a bit?
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:17 am

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Ballot Accounter


hiplop ( 6 ) -
Maxous, Torqez, Toon Fighter, paupam's rat, vezokpiraka, malpascp
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MintKitten, edmund.angles, Empking, zMuffinMan, Hirarky, chkflip
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Day 1 will end at approximately 10:00AM GMT+0 on the 26th of July.

If i can't find replacements by the deadline, it will be extended by another week.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:19 am

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Ok, i've been really terrible when it comes to getting back into this game, i said a while back i'd be reading through and posting my thoughts and such and whilst i did start to read a bit here and there, i didn't get to finish it. Is there any chance someone could post a bit of a round up post of current cases to help with it? It would be much appreciated.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:30 am

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UNVOTE: VOTE: bowser

5 to deadlin4e and it makes sense
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:02 am

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These are two town wagons. Come lynch Toon Fighter with me.

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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:09 am

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zMuffiman - whenever you want to stop buddying GreyICE is fine by me.

Hiplop lynch is not going through today.
My next choice for ages has been Pine but I doubt I will get sufficent support, same with malpascp.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:24 am

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Nope. hiplop did the fucking "Sheep as Scum" thing.

Vote: hiplop
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:15 am

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Hey mastin you sure talk alot and yet say very little. You have all these reads and yet explain nothing. You have given reasons behind like two of your townreads and havent said shit about your scumreads. Lets start actually contributing if you dont mind? Start pushing someone's case instead of just talking about how right you are and how many "mislynches" you have to shoot down. Like... maybe give some reasons WHY your townreads would be mislynches and some reasons WHY your scumreads are scum. You have like 95 posts, and most of them are full of filler.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:02 am

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hiplop's vote on Bowser seem more like saving himself than anything else. The only reasoning is the deadline, that is not that short, and is probabily going to be extended. The "make sense" thing is waaay scummy. Anyone agrees?
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:10 pm

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malpascp wrote:hiplop's vote on Bowser seem more like saving himself than anything else. The only reasoning is the deadline, that is not that short, and is probabily going to be extended. The "make sense" thing is waaay scummy. Anyone agrees?

agreeing = scummy? :roll:
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:07 pm

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Muffin wrote:But what are you going to do if he flips town?
Lynch Pine. GreyICE-Pine interactions were not townVtown, hence why I tried to encourage them further. The fact that I was unable to do so only solidified this as true.

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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:51 pm

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Both bowser and hiplop are nearly the same just hiplop is worse.

Why are people voting bowser over him again?
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:57 pm

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Dunno.

One mislynch,
Other mislynch.

I quite frankly can't see the reasoning on either, since they're both town.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:18 pm

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Normally, for a case, I'd break down the person-in-question's ISO post by post and tell you all why it's a crock of hogwash from someone with a scum role PM. This time? I feel like just giving you the meat without all the fat and bones.

Bowser has proven himself scummy by first saying that he doesn't have a good feeling about mastin's reads; in the same post, however, he leaves himself an opening by way of saying that he too has a gut town read on half of mastin's list (which of course he doesn't specify). In the following post, from what looks like mastin's reads and those alone, he votes Tomie with a simple post of "Then [votecode]Tomie[/votecode]" and that's that. This, mind you, is only
two hours
after he previous wishy-washy feelings toward the lists to begin with. Now sure, we could all see that as a pressure vote to see what Tomie does, but to me it reads more like Bowser trying to buddy up and keep mastin's town-read on that slot by way of going for mastin's biggest scum read. He fluffs through two more posts; in the first by quoting edmund's vote against him alongside a previous vote count and gives a single line of how edmund miraculously had just "proven himself as scum." Then, in the very next post, he fluffs with his opinion on how a purely meta case is bad voting and how it's dead. The only other thing he mentions in the post is his reasoning for how edmund confirmed his scumminess, stating that the Bowserwagon is SHIT and that the reason for edmund's vote is, thus, equally shitty. Doesn't go into
how or why
it's SHIT... he just posts that in and of itself. Classic AtE Bowscum. Goes on V/LA (no, I'm not saying that's scummy) and, upon returning, the only thing he's got to say is "nice try" to edmund? THAT'S IT? Focusing on himself instead of, y'know, SCUMHUNTING!? And I'm supposed to think that this slot's not scum? Yeah... no.

My
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part of all is how he asks in post 358 'hey guiez, how is hiplop scum' as if he doesn't see it at all... and then, not thirty posts later, he magically sees hiplop is scum because "no reasoning = scum"? THAT'S IT? The "why is hiplop scum" is obviously facetious and forced if he flip-flops from that to 'OH YEAH I SEE IT WITH THIS NO-REASON-HAVING VOTE RIGHT HERE.' Yeah. Fucking. Right. Fluffs to Tomie, not a big deal but definitely a point to his scumminess as there are several other things he decides to overlook and not comment on. "Upon rereading, hiplop is null" and unvotes. What a load of pure BS that post is... but jumps right back on the hiplop wagon when hiplop does the "Sheep as Scum" thing?

If hiplop truly was a null read, the flip-flop voting on and off and back on wouldn't have happened.

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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:25 pm

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You guys need to learn how to read Bowser's post. Bowser did NOT say he didn't have a good feeling about my reads. He said they bugged him--and that he liked half of the ones I gave. He sheeped me, following through on what he said. He pushes Edmund, exactly as a pro-town player would in that situation, not as a scum player would. He furthers this edmund suspicion.
Then, he unfortunately gets hit with V/LA.
And continues to push Edmund as scum.

Bowser shows consistent scumhunting, consistent town motive, consistent town town, consistently positive interactions. He's town.

Also, I realize many players despise meta. But how about general playstyle?

Keep in mind, Bowser is
CSL
. This is just how he plays. I've seen people call CSL a VI in MANY games in the past--at least half a dozen I've read across the site.

He's a ripe mislynch, but he's town.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:49 pm

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You only think Bowser is scum hunting because you think Edmund is scum.

If you think about it from the perspective that Edmund is actually town, Bowser-scum makes a whole lot more sense.

And this flipflopping with his read on hiplop while ignoring virtually everything else in the game isn't making me think he's town.

I actually want him to start posting content so I can get a proper read on him. He's done crap all so far, and that makes me a sad panda.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:04 pm

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Unvote


RE: zMuffinMan: You have not been on this site long enough to see how I play. mastin has. Therein lies the difference.

An edmund lynch is not going through today, which SICKENS me. So we settle for second best.

Vote: Tomie


chkflip, your post is a wall. I refuse to read it. Give me a tl;dr on it. Also, see RE: zMuffinMan
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