[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)

[Friend]

UNVOTE VOTE VALERN

Valern, put yourself in Reck's shoes. What are Fate's motivations?

[xRECKONERx]

Alliance

Reck
Parama
kiwieagle
Valern

Horde

Friend
Fate
Hinduragi
Seacore
BrianMcQueso

Not Yet Defined

Starbuck
smargaret
swankidelic

[kiwieagle]

I think Parama has a PostRestriction that has to do with RBT

[xRECKONERx]

that's the worst theory in the history of worst theories

[kiwieagle]

All the RBT-Hate is formatted in the same way!

[xRECKONERx]

Reck. Ninjas or no ninjas?

/confirm

Also we're skipping RVS this game. I will explain once the game officially starts.

Wow Reck are you evil this time too?

Yeah playing as scum sucks. Always.

zzzzzzzzz

Why the flying slaxx do you think Fate has a post restriction?

Also DGB and farside still have more y'know.

seems like a ridiculously random comment to me unless you have inside information that we don't.

2nd post says Scarlet Saboteurs.

Reck: The vote steal in Deadmines is basically that same exact thing. Your point?

So nevermind. But I still find dayvig to be more protown then not. If RBT flips scum then Parama is 100% unquestionably confirmedtown. If not, oh well, back to basics

Again, you hammering Enigma in Deadmines

How the hell am I supposed to tell if I'm alliance or horde if I've never played the damn game?

Not claiming~

google'd it up, appears my race is alliance

inHim you're a slow mod you picked up that PM almost immediately and haven't done anything yet why

WORTH IT.

now please drop this fucking retarded theory

[kiwieagle]

Reck. Ninjas or no ninjas?

/confirm

Also we're skipping RVS this game. I will explain once the game officially starts.

Wow Reck are you evil this time too?

Yeah playing as scum sucks. Always.

zzzzzzzzz

Why the flying slaxx do you think Fate has a post restriction?

Also DGB and farside still have more y'know.

seems like a ridiculously random comment to me unless you have inside information that we don't.

2nd post says Scarlet Saboteurs.

Reck: The vote steal in Deadmines is basically that same exact thing. Your point?

So nevermind. But I still find dayvig to be more protown then not. If RBT flips scum then Parama is 100% unquestionably confirmedtown. If not, oh well, back to basics

Again, you hammering Enigma in Deadmines

How the hell am I supposed to tell if I'm alliance or horde if I've never played the damn game?

Not claiming~

google'd it up, appears my race is alliance

inHim you're a slow mod you picked up that PM almost immediately and haven't done anything yet why

WORTH IT.

now please drop this fucking retarded theory

It was never meant to be taken seriously, but if you find it offensive : sure.

[Seacore]

Kiwi, despite real conversations going on about motivations, you choose to do noting but post a theory that

was never meant to be taken seriously

Really? Who are you trying to distract from? Fate, Reck or Val. I'm leaning Val given that it happened right after a surge of votes.

I think the Fate/Reck conversation is just noise that I'd expect from Fate/Other aggressive players. I'm not familiar with Reck, never played with him before.
I'm waiting to hear about his faction thing, but am content to wait until the last three claim. It's amusing me, when he posted his list of Alliance and horde I AGAIN read horde as scum and was about to type "What the hell is the case on me?" then I remembered again. I blame the stressful day, but hey, the interview is over, I hope I get to keep my job.

I'll read up again and post some thoughts on different players.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, despite real conversations going on about motivations, you choose to do noting but post a theory that

was never meant to be taken seriously

Really? Who are you trying to distract from? Fate, Reck or Val. I'm leaning Val given that it happened right after a surge of votes.

I think the Fate/Reck conversation is just noise that I'd expect from Fate/Other aggressive players. I'm not familiar with Reck, never played with him before.
I'm waiting to hear about his faction thing, but am content to wait until the last three claim. It's amusing me, when he posted his list of Alliance and horde I AGAIN read horde as scum and was about to type "What the hell is the case on me?" then I remembered again. I blame the stressful day, but hey, the interview is over, I hope I get to keep my job.

I'll read up again and post some thoughts on different players.

So my post was to distract people from Val?
Never thought about people thinking that from my post.
Hmm....
It makes sense, but too much WIFOM.

Also:
All the people in Scarlet Monastery are humans right?
So they are all alliance?

[xRECKONERx]

Seacore, all you need to know about me is that I'm a sexy beast.

Kiwi, no. There are plenty of human factions not in the alliance.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Kiwieagle

That question pings my scumdar.

[kiwieagle]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

[Seacore]

Reck = sexy, understood.

Vote: Kiwieagle

, he also claimed VT with no pressure, do not like that, easy way to set up why he'll never get NK'd.

And if/when he flips scum, I'm coming after Val.

[Seacore]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

I understand you're confusion Kiwi, we've been given role PMs that state our Race and Class. Making it clear that we're actual toons inside WoW.

You've been given a Role PM like this one:

Players

: xRECKONERx, smargaret, Enigma

Races

: Various

Class

: Defias Saboteur

Abilities

• Chaos in the Foundry
  – As long as three of you are alive, you may secretly move any player’s vote to the voted player of your choice one time each Day.
  
• Mr. Smite’s Improvisation
  – As long as two of you are alive, one of the Saboteurs may roleblock one player’s Night actions.
  
• Lapdogs, all of you!
  – As long as one of you is alive, one of the Saboteurs may kill one player at Night and force them to ragequit.
  
• Patrol!
  – As long as one of you is alive, you may use the provided QuickTopic to talk at ANY time. http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FACjCCatwSVJj
  
• Red Wool Bandanas
  – you have disguised yourself in the ranks of this group and know the following:
  • There are no Dwarves in this group.
    Dwarves can be Warriors, Shaman, Hunters, Rogues, Priests, Mages, Paladins, and Warlocks.
    
    
  • There are no Rogues in this group.
    Rogues can be played by Orcs, Trolls, Undead, Goblins, Blood Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, Night Elves, and Worgen.
    
    
  • There are both Alliance and Horde in the group, though there are more Alliance.
  
  
• Fake Claim, Please!
  – Send me a Race/Class combination and I’ll send you some possible Abilities and Actions that Race/Class combo might have in this game.

Win Condition

: You win when it is no longer possible for the group to hold a majority over you, the Defias Saboteurs.

This Rolepm doesn't make it clear what you are, so you're getting confused. It doesn't have a race, and you can't very well claim the class it says.

That's okay, it's a confusing game when you're scum and don't know the source material.

[kiwieagle]

Reck = sexy, understood.

Vote: Kiwieagle

, he also claimed VT with no pressure, do not like that, easy way to set up why he'll never get NK'd.

And if/when he flips scum, I'm coming after Val.

I think Parama has a PostRestriction that has to do with RBT

this gave you enough confidence for both my lynch and Vals?

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and lets say im mafia, are you assuming theres a SK or Vig?
Because how else will I be NKed?


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Pedit: I think I already claimed Dwarf Priest?

[Seacore]

This is exactly my point Kiwi.
But let me explain it slowly.

You are scum, meaning you won't be NK'd (unless there is an SK or a Vig)
You are hoping to survive the whole game.
So you are claiming VT now, so that when you are alive late game, you can explain why you've survived by saying "well the scum wouldn't bother killing a VT" when in fact the reason you are alive is because scum wouldn't kill their own scum buddy.

Also, your defence above reads like "I can't believe I got caught already!" not "your case is crap"

[Seacore]

Also Also, what is the deal with all this talk about Post Restrictions?

Two unfounded comments about PRs, the first about Fate, the 2nd about Para. Please explain?

[xRECKONERx]

This is a good wagon. The role PM confusion thing is exactly the vibe I got from the question.

[kiwieagle]

Also Also, what is the deal with all this talk about Post Restrictions?

Two unfounded comments about PRs, the first about Fate, the 2nd about Para. Please explain?

Neither were ment to say that they actually had.


And my above defence is:
Your reasoning is faulty, and your case is bad.
Make a better one.

[kiwieagle]

This is a good wagon. The role PM confusion thing is exactly the vibe I got from the question.

SO im confused whether the humans in Scarlet Monastery are accounted as alliance ingame?

That makes me seem a confused scum?

I had already claimed.
Im not asking about classes and races ffs.

[xRECKONERx]

hmmm.

[xRECKONERx]

Unvote

[Seacore]

Care to share your thoughts Reck? I don't buy the "I'm so confused I must be town" defence.

[kiwieagle]

I dont buy the "lets misrep kiwi" attack.

[Seacore]

Points against Kiwi

1. Early VT claim under no pressure
2. Random comment about Fate having a PR
3. Another comment about Para having a PR -> possibly a distraction for the rapid Val wagon
4. "getting confused" about the set up.
5. guilty defence of my initial case.

So far he's answered none of it satisfactorily. Apparently he didn't mean to post the Fate PR. The Para PR comment wasn't serious (which doesn't stop it from being a distraction).
Also, he claimed alliance, then he started to realise that Reck's power may uncover him, so he's trying to muddy the waters, through feigned confusion about what it means to be alliance or horde.

Heh, I know I'm reaching slightly with some of the above, but stack it all together and it gives me a stronger scum read than I've had D1 for a while.