[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)

[Seacore]

I dont buy the "lets misrep kiwi" attack.

Lol, so now I'm not just wrong? I'm faking it because I'm scum?

[kiwieagle]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

I understand you're confusion Kiwi, we've been given role PMs that state our Race and Class. Making it clear that we're actual toons inside WoW.

You've been given a Role PM like this one:

Here you are implying im asking a question about class and race

Players

: xRECKONERx, smargaret, Enigma

Races

: Various

Class

: Defias Saboteur

Abilities

• Chaos in the Foundry
  – As long as three of you are alive, you may secretly move any player’s vote to the voted player of your choice one time each Day.
  
• Mr. Smite’s Improvisation
  – As long as two of you are alive, one of the Saboteurs may roleblock one player’s Night actions.
  
• Lapdogs, all of you!
  – As long as one of you is alive, one of the Saboteurs may kill one player at Night and force them to ragequit.
  
• Patrol!
  – As long as one of you is alive, you may use the provided QuickTopic to talk at ANY time. http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FACjCCatwSVJj
  
• Red Wool Bandanas
  – you have disguised yourself in the ranks of this group and know the following:
  • There are no Dwarves in this group.
    Dwarves can be Warriors, Shaman, Hunters, Rogues, Priests, Mages, Paladins, and Warlocks.
    
    
  • There are no Rogues in this group.
    Rogues can be played by Orcs, Trolls, Undead, Goblins, Blood Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, Night Elves, and Worgen.
    
    
  • There are both Alliance and Horde in the group, though there are more Alliance.
  
  
• Fake Claim, Please!
  – Send me a Race/Class combination and I’ll send you some possible Abilities and Actions that Race/Class combo might have in this game.

Win Condition

: You win when it is no longer possible for the group to hold a majority over you, the Defias Saboteurs.

This Rolepm doesn't make it clear what you are, so you're getting confused. It doesn't have a race, and you can't very well claim the class it says.

That's okay, it's a confusing game when you're scum and don't know the source material.

Here you imply my question has to do with me being confused about my race

and in that post you just made your implying that I stated your faking because your scum.



Stop implying fake crap, and start posting real attacks.

[Valern]

Kiwi is lowhanging fruit imho, and Seacore is trying to chain lynches. Reck's unvote is ++ townpoints.

Seacore-

If you think Kiwi is trying to protect/distract from me (ie you think we're scumbuddies) why are you avoiding my wagon?

UNVOTE: Reckoner
VOTE: Seacore

[kiwieagle]

whats a lowhanging fruit?

[Seacore]

Val, I don't find you scummy.

I find kiwi scummy for the multiple reasons I've detailed.

However, if kiwi is indeed scum, then suddenly his distraction defence of you makes you look bad.

[Valern]

lowhanging fruit = one of those people who is relatively easy to get lynched regardless of alignment

[kiwieagle]

whats a lowhanging fruit?

(answer this)

and if im town then what?

[kiwieagle]

PEDIT:
someone alreadys answered the fruit question.

[Seacore]

If you're town then any connection case to Val no longer applies.

[kiwieagle]

Points against Kiwi

1. Early VT claim under no pressure

This is scummy to you?

2. Random comment about Fate having a PR

This is scummy to you?

3. Another comment about Para having a PR -> possibly a distraction for the rapid Val wagon

This is scummy to you?

4. "getting confused" about the set up.

Misrep

5. guilty defence of my initial case.

Guilty case? Do tell. Cause I dont find any.

So far he's answered none of it satisfactorily. Apparently he didn't mean to post the Fate PR. The Para PR comment wasn't serious (which doesn't stop it from being a distraction).
Also, he claimed alliance, then he started to realise that Reck's power may uncover him, so he's trying to muddy the waters, through feigned confusion about what it means to be alliance or horde.

Heh, I know I'm reaching slightly with some of the above, but stack it all together and it gives me a stronger scum read than I've had D1 for a while.

[kiwieagle]

If you're town then any connection case to Val no longer applies.

and what happens to you?

[Seacore]

Sigh
1. Yes, and I've explained why.
2. Not on it's own, but you've still not explained why you said it and that is odd
3. Yes, and I've explained why
4. You are stating that you now understand which faction Scarlet Crusaders will show up as?
5. I've explained why, your immediate reaction to my first case stank of "how did I get caught already?"

PEDIT:

If you are town I continue scum hunting just like I would if you flipped scum.

[Valern]

well obviously I'm biased because I know my alignment, but I don't really see how you could think it was a distraction tactic. It was pretty clear to me that kiwi was joking about the fact that Parama hasn't talked about much other than RBT, and Fate hasn't talked about much other than the fact that he thinks Reckoner is scum, so they have a "post restriction" hahaha isn't it funny etc.

Additionally, I'm not sure why you think premature claiming is a scumtell. If anything, I think it's probably a town tell.

CHRIST ON A STICK, NINJAS

[Seacore]

Premature VT claims are definitely scummy. There's no town motivation for doing them.

And he didn't say Fate has a PR because he's only been talking about Reck. He said Fate has a PR and then didn't explain it.

He didn't say Para has a PR because he's only been talking about RBT he said that Para had a PR because all of the RBT-Hate was "formatted" in the same way. And then didn't explain that except to say it wasn't serious. So this is what happened.
You posted.
People reacted to your post and declared you scummy for it
2 votes landed on you.
Almost straight after that, kiwi posts a PR comment.
Reck dismisses it as stupid
Kiwi defends it
Kiwi then says it wasn't serious.

So what was the purpose of the defence and then dismissal of his own theory? I put forward that the purpose was to move the spotlight.

[xRECKONERx]

this is too much to read while drunk

[Seacore]

Lol. Come back tomorrow Reck, I'll try to find the third scum before then.

[kiwieagle]

Premature VT claims are definitely scummy. There's no town motivation for doing them.

And he didn't say Fate has a PR because he's only been talking about Reck. He said Fate has a PR and then didn't explain it.

He didn't say Para has a PR because he's only been talking about RBT he said that Para had a PR because all of the RBT-Hate was "formatted" in the same way. And then didn't explain that except to say it wasn't serious. So this is what happened.
You posted.
People reacted to your post and declared you scummy for it
2 votes landed on you.
Almost straight after that, kiwi posts a PR comment.
Reck dismisses it as stupid
Kiwi defends it
Kiwi then says it wasn't serious.

So what was the purpose of the defence and then dismissal of his own theory? I put forward that the purpose was to move the spotlight.

Ugh.


When did I say Fate had a post restriction?

QUOTE IT.

[Valern]

OK, I'm just gonna bite my tongue about my theory disagreements for now as I don't think that will get us anywhere. I think there's more town motivation for premature claiming than there is scum motivation to lock oneself into a claim early under no pressure, but w/e.

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that I'm scum and Kiwi is my scumbuddy and I'm under pressure oh noes!

Why would Kiwi move the spotlight onto himself and not someone else who is

not

scum?

also, you claimed earlier to not think I'm scum,

but

you think I'm scum if Kiwi is scum, and you're voting kiwi so you obviously think kiwi is scum. so then why are you telling me that you don't think I'm scum? Am I missing something or are you logic failing?

[kiwieagle]

Sigh
1. Yes, and I've explained why.

Badly.

2. Not on it's own, but you've still not explained why you said it and that is odd

I did.

3. Yes, and I've explained why

Badly

4. You are stating that you now understand which faction Scarlet Crusaders will show up as?

When did I state that? STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH

5. I've explained why, your immediate reaction to my first case stank of "how did I get caught already?"

Reread then.

PEDIT:

If you are town I continue scum hunting just like I would if you flipped scum.

[Seacore]

When did I say Fate had a post restriction?

QUOTE IT.

VOTE: Fate

Its fun to see a Post Restricted Fate.
And I have never played with him, but still he has the most posts in MF

If you aren't saying that he's post restricted then what the hell are you saying?

[Seacore]

Also also, what the hell

In #166 you are denying that you ever said Fate has a post restriction

In #168 you are saying that you explained why you said Fate has a post restriction

What? How can you have explained something you never did?

[Fate]

What in the FUCK you guys?

Town
Seacore
KiwiEagle
Parama

Scum
RECK
RECK'S BUDDIES

THIS SHIT

IS LOCKED DOWN.

VOTE FUCKING REKC

IF HE FLIPS TOWN ILL TAKE HTE LYNCH TOMORROW

[xRECKONERx]

that's a stupid fucking idea that would lose a townie + whatever you are

stop being retarded this shit isn't even remotely locked down

[xRECKONERx]

not convinced on Seacore town either

[Fate]

RECK CASE:

ISOs #1-3 are all fluff and "oh hai guys." He is so uncomfortable in his posting.

Read any OTHER game with RECK and Parama, Reck already has six town reads by PAGE ONE, and is crushing the game as he goes.

THIS GAME? He's focused on, fucking ALLIANCE AND HORDE claims, and the most OPPORTUNISTIC fucking suspicions I've ever seen.

Let's take a look:

At the end of the last game, IHSIB stated that it was how the entire Mafia in the _________ series would be run. So yes, we can be certain this game works the same way.

this post got new page'd

PREDIT: ah, alright

And also given the fact it says the faction name in the 2nd post and it sounds really fuckin similar to Defias Saboteurs I'm gonna assume we're using the same system here.

Parama is confirmedtown.

Now we wait for modflip, then we continue.

PREDIT AGAIN GOD FUCKING DAMMIT: I suppose it could be, but giving scum an extra kill like that would require some serious balancing seeing as how scum could just force a no-lynch the day before lylo, kill, then open up the day with a daykill and win the game using cheese tactics and I think IHSIB is smarter than that

Here he buddies up to Parama IMMEDIATELY for his dayvig.

He is then IMMEDIATELY called out for, "how does that make him town?" and he goes:

"Hmmm you're right. [WEll I still know Parama is town and wish to buddy him."

RECKscum wanted to buddy up to Parama and called him CONFTOWN when he shouldn't have, but then awkwardly backtracked when called out.

What's the faction name of the people we want to kill here? Scarlet Monastery? Scarlet Cathedral? Scarlet Legion?

I haven't played WoW in months and haven't run SM in even longer

Still no evidence of RECK SCUMHUNTING GAMEBREAKING. Just "lol who we up against?" Tht shit doesnt' MATTER to Recktown. Recktown READS people and breaks the game early, here he's literally not even trying to pretend hunt.