New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)

[xRECKONERx]

u so lazy

We're not lurkerlynching for the sake of lurkerlynching on DAY 4

[xRECKONERx]

wait 2 dead scum already

knvm

unvote vote auckmidzebronic

but mod prod them seriously

[Nobody Special]

i didnt say why

Could you, oh I don't know, SAY WHY NOW?

[xRECKONERx]

Not yet.

[Nobody Special]

Okay, I'll let it go for now. But I'll bring it up again, so don't try sweeping it under the rug.

[DrippingGoofball]

u so lazy

We're not lurkerlynching for the sake of lurkerlynching on DAY 4

Not usually. THIS is the game for it, though.

[xRECKONERx]

wait 2 dead scum already

knvm

unvote vote auckmidzebronic

but mod prod them seriously

[Celebloki]

Shameless Prod Dodge.

Game died. Suppose I could get behind a lurker lynch if we really needed to. Aside from DGB, I'd like peoples opinions of chkballin. Am I just crazy for pursuing that or are people just ignoring my case?

[Thor665]

He's sorta scummy but not runaway scummy.

Vote Auckmid unless you have a case for why that slot is town.

[Celebloki]

Aside from his recent lurkiness he has come across as very null/no-content. Wouldn't be a bad lynch, I just think we have people that lean farther as scum than Auckmid. Namely chkballin and Taro. Read Taro in isolation, it's short and scummy. I could back a speedwagon on him too.

[Nobody Special]

I did mention earlier that PBuG and Celebloki were scum right?
Just making sure it's still fresh for everyone.

Let's look at this logically, shall we?

Town!Taro: Ignores my innocent result on Celebloki, perhaps not paying enough attention due to RL issues.

Scum!Taro: Ignores my innocent result on Celebloki, for ....some reason.

I got nothin'.

[Celebloki]

I'm just going to post a disclaimer, Nobody Special no offense, but bringing up that you got an innocent result on me doesn't necessarily help me nor can it really be used to scumhunt. You can just as easily be a goon and you know people's alignments anyway. You could have bussed SK and be white-knighting me in case I show up dead. Neither of those things confirm you. At this point the only way you confirm me as town or yourself as cop is if you die and indeed flip town cop. If you flip scum it just gets me into a huge WIFOM mess I don't want to deal with, which obviously as scum you could give a smurf less about. It would be more beneficial to town if you scumhunted elsewhere instead of trying to claim to be a confirmed cop and basing your cases off that.

I think at this point no one is going to completely believe your results on anything.

[Nobody Special]

Fair point.

[Thor665]

@Celeb - that doesn't actually weaken NS's thoughts on Taro unless you think they're buddies though.

[Celebloki]

I don't, I just wanted to voice my thoughts before I started getting used as a poster child or looked like NS and I were all buddy buddy. I'm inclined to believe that NS is a cop and won't support a lynch on him unless he starts being really scummy or shows a wrong result. I enjoy him scrutinizing Taro because I think Taro is scummy.

[Celebloki]

I could support a Parabollocks lynch as well, just read him in ISO. Hops on popular bandwagons, hammered/bussed SK. In an early post he calls both JDGA and SK null, and my other scum reads either town or null, he could be distancing from buddies. He follows popular opinion, DGB votes reck and he goes to do a read, but when that goes nowhere his read magically comes up null. He's not sweating scumminess like chkballin and taro but he's scummier than Auckmid.

I could get behind a wagon on chkballin, Taro, or Parabollocks right now. Any of them would be good for lynch, vig, or investigation. I say you either join me on chkballin or we can start a wagon on one of the other two.

[xRECKONERx]

how about NS

[Celebloki]

I'd say save judgment for him until the next day. Give him a chance to investigate someone again and decide what to do then if he lives the night. My ideal plan would be as follows:

Lynch Chkballin or Taro
Vig whichever one isn't lynched
and NS can investigate Parabollocks.

[Nobody Special]

I'm up for a Taro lynch. Not so much chkballin, although I have to re-read Celebloki's case.

I'm also okay with investigating Parabollocks.

Celebloki, could I ask for your top two scummiest aside from Taro & chkballin?

[xRECKONERx]

Fine. It's better than a lurkerwagon anyway.

Vote: Taro

[Celebloki]

My general reads are:

Chkballin - obvscum, I've made cases, not going to explain it further, they'll never convince me otherwise until they die or survive to end game and I see their alignment from the mod.

Taro - Scum, buddies with chkballin, bandwagons

Parabollocks - Leaning Scum, stays away from those that have flipped scum and who I think is scum, similar to Taro in that he bandwagons and is kind of lurky.

PBuG - Leaning Town, I had a big beef with swag D1 and wasn't a fan of PBuG D2, but seeing his interactions with those that have now flipped scum and how he's played I am leaning town.

DGB - Null read with a hint of scum, Mist was non-existant and DGB has been fairly null. Defending Chkballin for some reason, thats a ding.

Jily - VI Town, I believe her PGO claim but she play's anti-town and is essentially an empty slot, worthless. Even if she weren't a PGO scum would probably not touch her because she doesn't help us anyway.

bvoigt- Null, I honestly haven't read him too much. He hasn't posted much recently but he was supporting me on chkballin so he gets brownie points.

Palisade - Town, I had my doubts but after the Thor OSV stuff he was finally 100% confirmed for me. They need to get their act together and not forget to send in their kills though.

Auckmid - VI Null leaning scum, Zebronic posted nothing of value, Auckmid has posted nothing of value. Could go either way. He's being pretty useless. Could be scum active lurking.

PeregrineV - Null, similar to bvoigt, I haven't paid much attention to him. He sheeped me on Chkballin, He's on my list of ISOs to read.

NS - Leaning Town, I see Reck's stance on NS. Could be scum gaming the town. But I am leaning on him being a cop like he says. I'd like another investigation out of him, hopefully another scum before I decide if he's confirmed.

Thor665 - Town, I believe his OSV claim, liked the SK gambit.

Reck - Town, he made the game interesting, I get a town vibe from him.

Scum List in Order of Scumminess:
Chkballin
Taro
Parabollocks
Auckmid
DGB

People I have nulls on that I could use an ISO of:
bvoigt
PeregrineV

[xRECKONERx]

I am not seeing this chkballin case people have been yelling about for days now. It feels like laziness.

[Celebloki]

Taro go!

Unvote

Vote: Taro

[Celebloki]

@Reck, To be honest I think I'm the only one tunneling in on Chkballin and at that it's mostly the Glowball side I think. I know it could be scum being opportunistic but I think what seals it is the interactions between Tomie and Glowball day 1. Then Tomie was the mob hit. Glowball comes off to me as slightly newbish and getting rid of Tomie because she was hardcore gunning for Glowball day 1. Chk came in and mellowed the pair out a bit but I also see some connections between the way JDGA and SK interacted with the chkballin. They weren't buddy buddy, but votes were thrown around very loosely between the three of them like it was just for show.

[Celebloki]

Scum being opportunistic meaning, scum seeing the rivalry between Glowball and Tomie and taking advantage of it. Unless my reads are all wrong and Thor is scum orchestrating things or something I don't see the people I have pegged as scum being that clever.