[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)

[xRECKONERx]

For the record, here are my reads at this point:

Lynchable

Seacore
Fate
smargaret
BrianMcQueso

Maybe Lynchable

Starbuck
Friend
Hinduragi
swankidelic
Valern

Unlynchable

Parama
kiwieagle


Which reminds me...

Mod, swankidelic should probably be replaced. Yanno.

[xRECKONERx]

LolATE

all of your fucking cases and posts are nothing more than loud ATEs with no valid logical reasoning

choke on your mother's clit

[Ellibereth]

HI RECK
I'M SWANKI
NICE TO MEET YOU
and I thought unlimitted neighborizers still kept the QT.

Elli/Reck/Hindu

wtfisthisspellingfate

someone find me seacore scummeta.

[Parama]

inHim can we please have a votecount?

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Fate

This isn't townFate. townFate will change his reads on a fucking dime based on information presented. townFate pulls off brilliant gambits and can shut scum down using actual facts and logic. What Fate is doing here is tunneling. He locked into a scum read on me

before the game had even begun

during confirmation stages. Since then, every post he's made has either been screaming loudly about pseudo-scumtells I've dropped, or trying to cram people into a Reck scumteam even if they don't fucking fit there. He has refused to respond to my 256. All he has said is that it's not worth his time, and that he's "not going to get involved in a wall-off" with me (paraphrasing). It's fucking horse shit.

He calls me out for trying to buddy up to Parama, then does

the exact same fucking thing

. In fact, Fate has buddied up hard to Parama and Seacore, but blasts me for doing the same (which, I haven't really tried to form a bloc or anything thus far).

This last bit is gut and not logically valid, but feel free to take it how it is: Fate just saw me run a train through Team Mafia. He saw that I destroyed Psychic Mafia and was 100% right about my reads in Pick Your Power. He has maybe seen me be right before, but he has never seen how truly scary I can be when I'm on top of my game. Coming into this, if Fate drew a scum PM, it would make sense that the FIRST THING he'd want to do is get rid of me so that he wouldn't have to deal with the threat of me catching onto him. So he starts tunneling on one of the strongest town players in the start of the game, then spins around and buddies up HARD to Parama and Seacore, two other incredibly strong players. That's not to insult anyone else on the list -- but objectively, me/Fate/Parama/Seacore are the most bolstered/loud/toughest players on the list.

Fate got scared when he drew that scum PM against me. So he employed the tactic of tunneling on me and shouting complete nonsense to try and paint me as scummy. He threw as much shit as possible at me until one or two things stuck, then ignored any explanation or rebuttal I tried to give him.

Fate is scum.

If he wants to go 1v1, let's fucking do it. I didn't take the offer at first because I wasn't sure, but

fuck it

. If he's town, he's absolutely fucking terrible anyway. But he's not.

[Seacore]

@Brian

Actually, it's not as many IFs as you suggest. Judging by Deadmines, the scum get multiple abilities. You referred to "In the game" not, In last game or anything like that. So it sounded present tense. So there's really only 1 IF here. IF you slipped. And I'm willing to allow that you did.

@Starbuck
1, I'm not rolefishing. He said "powers" plural. I doubt any town has more than one ability, so I don't see how I can be accused of rolefishing. I think/thought it was a scum slip based on the fact that Brian-scum got a list of multiple powers.

However, I'm willing to step back from that, I didn't count the sample PM, I'm used to sample PMs that are just VT, so fine. I'm willing to drop it.

On your other comment, of me not being able to get a wagon on Kiwi. I stated my case on Kiwi very clearly. Nobody agreed. Fate argued that I was seeing tells of a bad player rather than a scummy player. Since nobody seemed to agree that I had found scum in Kiwi I moved my vote. I'm still personally not convinced that he's not scum.

Finally, I'd be willing to vote Reck right now if I could be assured that it wouldn't be the hammer. Reck has a decent reputation and I doubt he'd go against PTW enough to self hammer as either alignment.

[Parama]

vote: Reck

unvote

...

[Seacore]

Wut?

[Ellibereth]

Reck did you forget I was this game >.>

[Parama]

If he was at L-1, I just hammered.
Otherwise, nothing happened.
Frankly I'm convinced that Reck vs. Fate is probably town vs. town and if it takes flipping one to get the other to SHUT THE HELL UP I'm all for it. Reck's role is basically useless anyways.

[Parama]

So yes, I may or may not have just hammered someone I think is town. I voted someone who I think is town for a fraction of a second, at the very least.

[xRECKONERx]

Oh herpaderp

Yeah you are swank, it just hadn't been updated in the first post.

My bad

[Seacore]

But why would you be willing to hammer, but not place the vote for L-1?

[Ellibereth]

but objectively, me/Fate/Parama/Seacore are the most bolstered/loud/toughest players on the list.

YOU DID FORGET.

and wasn't Reck using his ability as a one shot cop.

[xRECKONERx]

No.

Fucking bullshit.

If you guys lynch me, you don't let Fate get away with this bullshit.

[xRECKONERx]

If he was at L-1, I just hammered.
Otherwise, nothing happened.
Frankly I'm convinced that Reck vs. Fate is probably town vs. town and if it takes flipping one to get the other to SHUT THE HELL UP I'm all for it. Reck's role is basically useless anyways.

No.

No no no.

You fucking lynch me, fine, I'm useless, whatever.

But Fate doesn't live past D2.

[xRECKONERx]

NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT-- Fate's LOLGAMBIT isn't town-motivated this time. It's scum-motivated.

"RECK 1V1 LET'S GO"

"oh gee whiz! Fate must be town, who else would offer a 1v1 trade"

Meanwhile Fate's cackling away

Nope, calling his fucking bluff here

We're lynching me or Fate today. if it's me, you're stringing Fate up tomorrow or so help me Christ

[Fate]

Deal

.

Once again.

ONE V ONE FUCKIN ACCEPTED.

LET'S

GO

LOLNINJA

[kiwieagle]

So is it a hammer or not?

[xRECKONERx]

IT WASN'T.

NOW EVERYONE EITHER FUCKING VOTE FATE OR VOTE ME

I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH THIS SHIT ANYMORE

[Ellibereth]

and wasn't Reck using his ability as a one shot cop.

I'm useless,

and the other times like that
I DON'T GET

[Fate]

HAMMER IT KIWI

LIKE A FUCKIN MAN

[Seacore]

Unvote. Vote Reck

Either Parama hammered, or this won't.

[Parama]

vote: Reck

unvote

I can do this all day.

[xRECKONERx]

Elli: it's not as viable as a one-shot cop, because there are three scum out of thirteen players who have fakeclaimed an alignment, and they would just so happen to have had to fakeclaim the wrong alignment. So it's 3/13 AND THEN 50% even if I hit one of those three.

Kiwi. Hammer me if you will.

Fate dies tomorrow. That's all.