Mini Normal 1187: Game Over

[hiplop]

ok, yeah its giitah. Latest post was your last strike; if ace is scum; he deserves the victory for a game well played, but i dont think thats the case.

VOTE: giitah

[Giitah]

Hiplop, since I don't think there's anything but a gut case on me, all I can do is tell you

I'm town

. If Ace hammers then it's all over. >_>

[ace5993]

I agree with hiplop

Vote: Giitah

.

[hiplop]

DAMN.

[Giitah]

Unyaa... Hiplop. >_>

[Giitah]

So, Archaebob will hand us our heads... how do you feel?

[pappums rat]

Vote Count 6.1 (Only vote count of Day 6)

Giitah - 2 (hiplop, ace5993)

Not voting - Giitah

Giitah, Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 6

hiplop, Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed Day 6

Congratulations to the scumteam of

ace5993, foilist13, and nintendoaddict1

, you have won Mini Normal 1187!

[Giitah]

Ace, role?

Damn, I just lost my first game since I came back. D:

[pappums rat]

Set up:

Town:
-2 Masons
-1 Tracker
-1 Roleblocker
-6 Vanilla Townies

Scum:
-1 Mafia Role Cop
-1 Mafia 1-Shot Neighborizer
-1 Mafia Goon

Role PM's:

Town:

Vanilla Townie:
As a VT, you have no powers, only your voice and your vote to make it through this ordeal. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me.

Town Roleblocker:
You are a Town Roleblocker. You are able to choose one person to block each night, and if they try to perform an action they will not be able to use it that night. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me.

Town Tracker:
As a Town Tracker, you have the ability to send to me the name of a player you would like to track each night. You will be told who that player targeted, if they targeted anyone. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me.

Mason:
You are a Mason. You may talk each night with [player] in a QT that I will provide for you. To be clear, you are both of town alignment. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me and by confirming in your QT: [qt link].

Scum:

Mafia 1-Shot Neighborizer:
As a Mafia 1-Shot Neighborizer, you may on one night choose a player to communicate with at any time in a private QT that I will provide for you. You are also able to talk to your scumbuddies, Mafia Role Cop [player] and Mafia Goon [player] at night in your scum QT: [qt link]. You may not send in your factions kill the same night you neighborize someone. You win when your faction accounts for a majority of all living players, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me and by confirming in your QT.

Mafia Role Cop:
You are a Mafia Role Cop. Once each night you may perform your factions kill. If you are not performing the kill, you have the ability to choose one person to investigate and you will receive a PM containing that player's role when the next day starts. You are also able to talk to your scumbuddies, Mafia 1-Shot Neighborizer [player] and Mafia Goon [player] at night in your scum QT: [qt link]. You win when your faction accounts for a majority of all living players, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me and by confirming in your QT.

Mafia Goon:
As a Mafia Goon, you are able to talk to your scumbuddies, Mafia 1-Shot Neighborizer [player] and Mafia Role Cop [player] at night in your scum QT: [qt link]. You may also send in your factions kill once each night. You win when your faction accounts for a majority of all living players, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring. Please confirm your role by PM'ing me and by confirming in your QT.

Quick Topics:

Mini Normal 1187 Scum QT
Mini Normal 1187 Mason QT
Mini Normal 1187 Neighborhood QT
Mini Normal 1187 Dead QT

Night Actions:

Night 1:
Barry Allen tracked foilist13 to archaebob
ace5993 investigated Scumhunter, learning he was VT
foilist13 neighborized archaebob
nintendoaddict1 killed DemonHybrid

Night 2:
Barry Allen tracked hiplop nowhere (hiplop was VT)
ace5993 took no action
nintendoaddict1 killed archaebob

Night 3:
Barry Allen tracked Heliman nowhere (Heliman was a Mason)
ace5993 took no action
nintendoaddict1 killed Heliman

Night 4:
Barry Allen tracked Scumhunter nowhere (Scumhunter was VT)
ace5993 killed Barry Allen

Night 5:
ace5993 killed Scumhunter

[hiplop]

feel stupid ha

[nintendoaddict1]

wtg DH for pinning me, though I killed you the same night. GG to everyone, bob, you especially were a strong town player, thus we needed you gone.

[Barry Allen]

GG, maf - you played an excellent game and earned the win. Sorry I couldn't have done more to help the town. Thanks also to our mod for setting up a good game - we had a lot of twists and turns, but you handled things well all the way through the game.

[pappums rat]

Thanks for playing everyone, I had a good time modding this game. I was a little disappointed that all the town PR's were outed Day 1 because I had spent so much time with the setup, but thats just how it goes sometimes I suppose. Overall I thought ace did a hell of a job, and I think foilist's gambit actually helped the scum in the long run.

[Giitah]

Also foil you realize that if you die I'm also screwed because there's no motivation for scum-foil to pick a non-scum as the other mason. VERY displeased with this claim, you've basically set it up so that as soon as one tiny thing happens to make it look like you're lying we're both dead. Have you envisioned a way for me to get out of this situation? It's impossible to go along with the mason claim if something goes wrong this early.

EDIT: What has bob said so far? @mod is he allowed to c/p the neighbor discussion?
Edited 06-27-2011 04:34 PM

Damn, it looks like I was right about what I said about Foilist's gambit. Too bad I wasn't suspicious enough of Ace to push for his lynch. >_>

T____T Letting xvart get lynched was a big mistake too. I should have fought harder.

GUYS I NEED A SPINE!

[Giitah]

Anyway, regaining some composure, good game, Mafia, you earned your victory there.

As for the town... well, fuck. Sorry. >.>

[Giitah]

@Hiplop
What was it that was so scummy about me? S:

[hiplop]

@Hiplop
What was it that was so scummy about me? S:

pretty much every post by you read as having scummy intentions to me

[foilist13]

Whoohoo! I planned that from the beginning!!!

Jk, but to be fair I did forsee this shortly after my death.

[DemonHybrid]

Meh.

I stopped tracking this game ages ago, leaving it on a nintendo/octopus/giitah scumlist. Maybe the current meta is to kill those on track. Who knows. Good game

[Scumhunter]

Sigh, gg. I knew something was off about ace when he didn't out full reads. I got impatient and even though I said to look into ace more I knew it was a lost cause once I died and ace was scum. I (and town) made multiple mistakes this game. Particularly, letting nintendo get a mislynch in before he died and letting ace slide by for 2 full days INCLUDING lylo. My first town loss on here and I have to take much of the responsibility for it as I know I could have done better, and that in itself angers me and makes me want to do better next time. Good job scum, you earned it more than we blew it really, but doesn't mean I have to like it.

[archaebob]

Go die. ALL of you.

[archaebob]

jk.

seriously though.

this was the most painful game I've ever watched play out after my death.

congrats ace.

I hope you all have learned a lesson: NEVER wifom a possibility out of existence because it seems like scum "probably wouldn't do that". You are GIVING them a reason to do it with that very logic.

[archaebob]

Thoughts on the game? I especially want to hear from scum.

[Heliman]

Making a response to this seeing as I have a little spare time: Darn. oh well, I'm really happy I was at least able to pin Nintendo with deamonhybrid's tip, you couldn't ask for a better mason .

As I said in deadchat, since foil claimed ace as his partner in the quicktopic from the get-go, it would have made no sense if foil was trying to make Ace out to be the fall-guy, because it would have meant that he went into his plan knowing he would be caught. Shame I got picked off before I could mention that >_>.

Thoughts on the game? I especially want to hear from scum.

One thought I guess. Archaebob, that closed hand policy really help my opinion of your alignment. Actually, it was the entire reason why I once again donned my Kingslayer cap and went on you D1. I realize that some of it was for reaction tells which is fine, but most of it was just you being thrifty with your information. IMO, you should either voice your thoughts when you have them or keep the status of your side target totally withheld, because just dangling it over town's head really doesn't help, especially when you can NK'd early for being an active-hunter.

BTW, feel free to ask me any questions of me, I'm a lot nicer when not playing and I'll get to them when I can.

[Giitah]

As I said in deadchat, since foil claimed ace as his partner in the quicktopic from the get-go, it would have made no sense if foil was trying to make Ace out to be the fall-guy, because it would have meant that he went into his plan knowing he would be caught. Shame I got picked off before I could mention that >_>.

The details of how he would make Arche believe he was town and gain towncred from his approval are still foggy to me, but I can definitely see Ace never being brought up again if nobody challenged the claim harshly. In any case it made less sense that Foilist would do his gambit knowing it wouldn't work. I think that's where the problem was: the gambit was a mistake from the getgo and thus it was hard to determine exactly what role Ace was in relation to Foilist.

In any case, from my standpoint I'm saddened by how this ended out, but I'm still not really sure how to go about getting better. Still, it was kinda fun. Difficult, though; I still have a lot to learn to get better at this game.