Newbie 1122 (Game Over|Scum Win)

[smallpeoples343]

Sure, I wouldn't mind an Oversoul lynch. I have a null read on him though.

[Robocopter87]

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Oversoul [2] Packbat, Maruchan

smallpeoples343 [0]
Oman [0]
numberQ [0]

Maruchan [2] numberQ, Oversoul

Panacea [0]
Packbat [0]

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Not Voting

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smallpeoples343, Oman, Panacea

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Amount to Lynch

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With 7 Alive it is 4 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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Midnight of August, 12^th, EDT.

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[smallpeoples343]

Because of the question that I just answered, VOTE: Oversoul

[Oversoul]

Because of the question that I just answered, VOTE: Oversoul

Are you serious? Sheeping now, Small?

Scumspicions:
Maruchan
Packbat
Smallpeoples

[Panacea]

Opinion: Last night was a WIFOM Kill. It was either scum (including Oversoul) killing Oversoul's main aggressor and thinking they could say it was too obvious, or scum (excluding Oversoul) killing MuffinMan in hopes of framing MuffinMan's main suspect. I personally am leaning toward the latter.

Opinion: Packbat is Town setting Townie-Traps with his Oversoul vote (remember the underestimating scum or clever town comment? I didn't want to give it away.)

Opinion: Packbat's townie trap busted Smallpeoples.

VOTE: Smallpeoples

[Packbat]

Mod: Maruchan's vote is on Oversoul, I believe.

Opinion: Last night was a WIFOM Kill. It was either scum (including Oversoul) killing Oversoul's main aggressor and thinking they could say it was too obvious, or scum (excluding Oversoul) killing MuffinMan in hopes of framing MuffinMan's main suspect. I personally am leaning toward the latter.

Opinion: Packbat is Town setting Townie-Traps with his Oversoul vote (remember the underestimating scum or clever town comment? I didn't want to give it away.)

Opinion: Packbat's townie trap busted Smallpeoples.

VOTE: Smallpeoples

Protip: just because it works out as if it was planned doesn't mean it was.

UNVOTE: Oversoul

I voted Oversoul sincerely and honestly for the reason I gave - because he was zMuffinMan's top suspect - but in the subsequent play (and prior play, for that matter) Oversoul hasn't done anything legitimately scummy, while the reactions to my pointing at him have been terrible. Particularly smallpeoples343, who placed a vote on a purported

null

read just now.

And, after reading your post, Panacea, I realized that I made a minor error interpreting zMuffinMan's death. The suspicion does not necessarily fall on the player who zMuffinMan rated highest; it falls on the player

for whom zMuffinMan is the greatest threat

. And, in fact, small has exactly as much cause as Oversoul to kill zMuffinMan:

both

of them are players in Muffin's top three who drew little suspicion from the rest of the field. This gives smalls extra incentive to fire at Oversoul, being as this would tend to distract from the rest of zMuffinMan's list.

Plus, smalls has been playing a textbook scum game: lurk a lot, provide lots of IIoA, and let the town self-destruct without ever looking at you. I'm willing to place an

L-2

vote on him for that.

VOTE: smallpeoples343

[Maruchan]

I'm on Oversoul still robocopter. ♥

[Maruchan]

Opinion: Last night was a WIFOM Kill. It was either scum (including Oversoul) killing Oversoul's main aggressor and thinking they could say it was too obvious, or scum (excluding Oversoul) killing MuffinMan in hopes of framing MuffinMan's main suspect. I personally am leaning toward the latter.

Opinion: Packbat is Town setting Townie-Traps with his Oversoul vote (remember the underestimating scum or clever town comment? I didn't want to give it away.)

Opinion: Packbat's townie trap busted Smallpeoples.

VOTE: Smallpeoples

I agree with at least the first part, which is why I have been so adamant to this sheeping on Oversoul. Thank you for someone finally seeing my point.

As for the second comment, I didn't get it the first time I read it through, but then I did after re-reading it. You think Packbat was using it as a trap to try to get someone to sheep him without backing up his vote with reasoning. Like a scum would do if he was trying to jump an opportunistic bandwaggon. Got it. Now I get your comment.

On another note, Me, Oversoual, and Smallpeoples are all at L-2 with only Oman yet to vote.
On this matter, UNVOTE: Oversoul

I'm not to sure I want to immediately jump the smallpeoples bandwaggon, because Packbat seemed to jump it a bit to quickly...

@Packbat, would you mind linking me to the list you mentioned by MuffinMan on who he suspected? I don't remember smallpeoples being one of MuffinMan's suspicions, I just remember the initial push on YOU (hmmmm. adds in to my above mentioned theory), then him changing his push to oversoul after their confrontation.

[Maruchan]

Also, I will not re-vote until I hear at least one word from oman, saying he is still alive and paying attention.

[Packbat]

@Packbat, would you mind linking me to the list you mentioned by MuffinMan on who he suspected? I don't remember smallpeoples being one of MuffinMan's suspicions, I just remember the initial push on YOU (hmmmm. adds in to my above mentioned theory), then him changing his push to oversoul after their confrontation.

#445

So, yeah. Love when games stall.

Still thinking Oversoul>vader>small as my suspects.

That's mostly due to town reads of varying strength on every other player.

Check his ISO, too - he spends a moderate amount of time interrogating smallpeoples343 about actions the latter takes, notably the "numberQ is PR or scum" bit.

[Maruchan]

@Packbat, would you mind linking me to the list you mentioned by MuffinMan on who he suspected? I don't remember smallpeoples being one of MuffinMan's suspicions, I just remember the initial push on YOU (hmmmm. adds in to my above mentioned theory), then him changing his push to oversoul after their confrontation.

#445

So, yeah. Love when games stall.

Still thinking Oversoul>vader>small as my suspects.

That's mostly due to town reads of varying strength on every other player.

Check his ISO, too - he spends a moderate amount of time interrogating smallpeoples343 about actions the latter takes, notably the "numberQ is PR or scum" bit.

I guess you're right, smallpeoples might've had a bit to gain fro ma MuffinMan death. I didn't even notice that. O.o. So you think MuffinMan was a mixture of a death because he suspected the scum/WIFOM because he suspected another townie.

[Robocopter87]

Mod: Maruchan's vote is on Oversoul, I believe.

Fixed. Thank you.

Finding Oman replacement.

[Maruchan]

Oman asked to transfer out?

[Robocopter87]

No. He didn't post for three days. I prodded him. 48 hours later (Right about now), I start searching for replacement because he didn't respond.

[Maruchan]

Also, I'm not really suspecting Panacea anymore. She could have easily hammered on Oversoul, then said she thought she was putting him at L1, and aroused only minimal suspicion. I find her not doing that to be rather townie

PEdit: Bye Oman!! We'll miss you

[smallpeoples343]

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Oversoul [2] smallpeoples343

smallpeoples343 [2] Pancacea, Packbat

Oman [0]
numberQ [0]

Maruchan [2] numberQ, Oversoul

Panacea [0]
Packbat [0]

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Oman, Maruchan

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Amount to Lynch

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With 7 Alive it is 4 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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Midnight of August, 12^th, EDT.

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Sorry, but quoted from last vote count.

[smallpeoples343]

EBWOP: Bah, Oversoul has 1 vote, not 2.

[Packbat]

Now he does, yes. He didn't when you placed your vote, and he didn't before Maruchan removed his vote.

[smallpeoples343]

I didn't realize he was already at L-2, I was on Page 21, so I didn't see the new votecount.

[Packbat]

I didn't realize he was already at L-2, I was on Page 21, so I didn't see the new votecount.

Nnnno. Not kosher. [ic]

Always

check the votecount before you place a vote.[/ic] I go one step further and keep track myself of the votes placed.

Besides, if you had seen the new votecount before you voted, it would have said that there was one vote on Oversoul, so that doesn't fly either.

[smallpeoples343]

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Oversoul [2] Packbat, Maruchan

smallpeoples343 [0]
Oman [0]
numberQ [0]

Maruchan [2] numberQ, Oversoul

Panacea [0]
Packbat [0]

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Not Voting

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smallpeoples343, Oman, Panacea

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Amount to Lynch

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With 7 Alive it is 4 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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Midnight of August, 12^th, EDT.

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Oversoul had 2 votes, not 1.

[Packbat]

Mod: Maruchan's vote is on Oversoul, I believe.

Fixed. Thank you.

Finding Oman replacement.

There was an error in the votecount.

Anyway, why are you bringing this up? This is yet another irrelevancy, as far as I can tell.

[Robocopter87]

Oman is replaced by Stuntman.

Welcome him!

[Stuntman]

Hello, I will be replacing Oman. This will be my second game overall. Will post soon as I get caught up. Tell me about anything you want me to address specifically.

[Maruchan]

Hey Stuntman! welcome to the team!