Execution Mafia: Days of the Cold War GAMEOVER

[jasonT1981]

Vezo, I believe has.

Quilford has just shown why he should NEVER be elected executioner.

[Zang]

I am going to disagree with this from the standpoint that if a Day Executioner hits scum with the execution I see no reason to NOT make them the Night Executioner.

But couldn't a scum executioner hit scum purposefully so that he would be elected as executioner again and because he would then be assumed as town?

Both alignments do have reason to do so, but it's the kind of thing that's more awkward to do as scum than as town. It makes the person who selfvotes stick out, since not everyone is going to selfvote. Scum could still do it, but I think it would be a bit more likely to come from town because town is more willing to be in the spotlight. Scum would likely be afraid of being questioned about it. It isn't all that strong though (since it isn't that major of a thing and answering inquiries would be easy for scum) hence it only being a minor towntell

Town are more willing to be in the spotlight but scum are much more eager to be the executioner.

Is there anyone who has stated they would go with the majority opinion if elected executioner?

I would.

[jasonT1981]

started reading from where I left off, only got a few things to comment on so far, more tomorrow when caught up fully. Have had a think about things while away from computer too.

Begging for the role just so you can kill someone? this is my first time in a game like this, but to me it seems to work a lot like Kingmaker only we all vote instead of one person picking the king.

Oh really now... frankly I think it's a very town-motivated action. If I have a strong scumread (say, codfish) and I think he lied to the town (say, like quilford did) then how am I going to kill this person that I think is scum? Why, by being elected executioner! Selfvoting up until this point (since at this point I'm stating this outright) should be taken as a minor towntell. It would feel awkward to scum moreso than to town, i feel.

I disagree, he has repeatidly said he will not listen to the town and kill off his own accord. that is not town

Anyone who has ever played in any of my modded games will understand why.

Considering I haven't, perhaps you could enlighten me?

can't sorry, as game is on going.. All I can say that as mod I have been in this situation recently and do not like it.

I want to say that my main issue with Quif is his attitude, it is horrible.

I was going to write something witty and acerbic but you can't argue with people who put others in their scum lists for their

attitude

.

but it wasnt just for your attitude.. I explained that I don't like how you push Vezo, but then say you don't know he is town (i know no one as town does, but you should be voting who you think is most town right now)

I didn't. But you know it wasn't looking likely that he'd be elected any time soon, and he was the towniest at the time

Fair enough then, does he still look the towniest to you?

@Jason: If I get elected as executioner I would kill who the town tells me to and no one else.

good to hear, I may have been wrong about you then, we have not played with each other in a while..

Alright, I am slightly chaning my read on Quilford, I still think he should be kept at close length and watched but in re-reading I can see similarities to frustrated townie trying desperitly to get his views across and not getting anywhere, im changing my read because of experience in another on going game so I cant really say too much, but all I can say is Quilford is acting alot like someone who flipped town in that game when all thought he was scum for exactly the things quilford has been doing.

Quil, I still really cant get into your case on SK, sorry there is too much rage and caps involved and giving me a headache, it does seem that it was going around in circles and it became annoyign to read.

going to have updated reads tomorrow, sorry for taking time away, but feeling a bit better now and thinking more clearly after concussion. I would have time to give more clearer reads right now, but Manchester United are about to be on my TV playing MLS allstars. And i wont miss a MU game for anything.

[mallowgeno]

VC 1.3

MagnaofIllusion (1)-SleepyKrew
Quilford (4)-Quilford, ChaosOmega, implosion, fatlikepig
vezokpiraka (2)-MagnaofIllusion, vezokpiraka

Haven't Voted (6)-
jasonT1981
Zang
Codfish
kondi2424
havingfitz
Captain Corporal

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to elect an executioner!

Deadline is August 15th!

[jasonT1981]

I am going to trust Vezo to do what is best with town.

vote: Vezo

I urge you all voting Quil to reconsider, he cant be trusted to do the town thing.. he has admitted he will kill without town consent or listening to them.. even if he is town, this is not a town thing to do.

[Quilford]

@Quilford

– I have a question for you. Do you support Town directed Executions if you are going to be the Executioner?

no magna my caps raging clearly points to the fact that i am an unstable young man and am incapable of following directives

when i am executioner i shall execute annnnnnnnyone i please 38D muahaha


Why do you ask?

This is what we call sarcasm.

[vezokpiraka]

@Quilford

– I have a question for you. Do you support Town directed Executions if you are going to be the Executioner?

no magna my caps raging clearly points to the fact that i am an unstable young man and am incapable of following directives

when i am executioner i shall execute annnnnnnnyone i please 38D muahaha


Why do you ask?

This is what we call sarcasm.

Sarcasm? You could have made it more obvious.

[SleepyKrew]

jason's concussion was apparently worse than we thought.
I'd be willing to compromise giving Quil the DayKill if we give MoI the Nightkill.

[Quilford]

@Quilford

– I have a question for you. Do you support Town directed Executions if you are going to be the Executioner?

no magna my caps raging clearly points to the fact that i am an unstable young man and am incapable of following directives

when i am executioner i shall execute annnnnnnnyone i please 38D muahaha


Why do you ask?

This is what we call sarcasm.

Sarcasm? You could have made it more obvious.

I think it was pretty obvious, actually.

SleepyKrew, I can agree to that.

[Quilford]

I JUST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE SO BAD OH GOD

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SleepyKrew, why the sudden change of mind on me? And who do you think we should kill via me?

[SleepyKrew]

I just realized I just agreed the elect a scumread and a nullread. Thank God the game doesn't end after D1.
PEDIT: Nah, I still think you're scum. Shoot who you want.

[Quilford]

SleepyKrew, aside from me, who is your biggest scumread?

[SleepyKrew]

implosion

[Quilford]

cool so here are everyone's top scum reads as far as I can tell:

CC - Vezok / Cod
Chaos - Cod / Vezok
Cod - ??? (me?)
fatlikepig - Cod / Vezok
havingfitz - ???
implosion - SK
jasonT1981 - Cod
MoI - SK
me :DD - Cod / SK
SK - implosion
vezok - Chaos / Cod
Zang - Cod

That's pretty decisive actually. If you elect me, I'm going to be killing Cod.

[Quilford]

Unless anyone has a really compelling reason why I shouldn't.

[SleepyKrew]

Go right ahead.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Quilford

[SleepyKrew]

Now we need to plan.

What do we do if Cod flips town?
I say elect MoI and let him reign free with the kill.

What if Cod is scum?
I say elect MoI and let him reign free with the kill.

3rd Party?
MoI

So yeah, I actually don't see why we should change the course of actions. Cool.

[Quilford]

Should we get a nightexecutioner VC happening?

[SleepyKrew]

No harm in it.

MoI: Sleepy

I'm the only one with a definitive stance so far, right?

[implosion]

I would accept quil today MoI tonight, although I don't see why SK is willing to.

Especially

when MoI, the person who SK is pushing to be elected, has not only outlined SK as his top scumread but also said that he will execute who he wants and not who the town directs him to. So essentially, at least right now, SK is pushing for what would likely be his own death... why do you have so much of a desire for Magna to be elected, SK?

I disagree, he has repeatidly said he will not listen to the town and kill off his own accord. that is not town

So by the same logic, is magna scum?

I urge you all voting Quil to reconsider, he cant be trusted to do the town thing.. he has admitted he will kill without town consent or listening to them.. even if he is town, this is not a town thing to do.

This is somewhat debatable. I mentioned something to this effect in my first post. Essentially: if we allow the executioner (at least during the day) to kill who they want, there are several benefits. Lets look at the pros and cons of each:
Executioner listens:
Pros:
-we regain a standard mafia-style democracy/voting type game
-everyone's wisdom/whatever goes into the vote
Cons:
-mafia can influence the vote
Executioner doesn't listen:
Pros:
-we learn more about the executioner's alignment by who they execute and why
-if the executioner is town, we have a guaranteed 100% town-motivated kill.
Cons:
-if the executioner is mafia, we have a mafia-motivated kill.

At least, this is the list I can think of right now. I honestly think the pros of the second plan outweigh the pros of the first plan. As long as we nominate someone who is town (which is easy imo, townhunting is easier than scumhunting for me) then we really have little to lose, and even if we nominate scum we learn more about them from their target.

Town are more willing to be in the spotlight but scum are much more eager to be the executioner.

Maybe. The thing is, the scum don't need to be the executioner. In fact, it's probably better for the scum to elect a town executioner who will screw up and kill other town.

Pedit: meh because I think cod is town right now, but whatever. Again, SK, why push so strongly for someone whose first suspicion is you?

[SleepyKrew]

Because I want to see MoI's scumhunting, and I want to see his kill. Thought if we do end up electing MoI like I want, I'm going to be appealing for my life to him.

[Quilford]

I'm in support of anyone being the Night Executioner, as long as it isn't SK or Jason. MoI sounds good.

[jasonT1981]

MOI has my vote for night executioner too. More coming later, got family down today... URGH!

[SleepyKrew]

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[vote]Quilford[/vote]

Just copypasta that jason.

[SleepyKrew]

Wait, why aren't you voting right now if you're confident in MoI?