cavjj wrote:Ok so your first post contained:
Let's skip the stupid discussion about how odds are slim I was chosen to be mafia on both rolls, shall we?
You did talk about that and said you DON'T think that that means you have less chance. I don't know whether it was just joking around while being in the random stages to create discussion, but regardless of what you thought about it, why even mention it? You are asking us, not to talk about the possibility of you being scum, that's what it boils down to.
I wasn't asking you not to talk about the possibility of me being scum. I was asking you not to talk about the
reduced
possibility of me being scum. Because the possibility isn't reduced. Only two people made a point about it in spite of me: dicknose, and, knowing him, I believe he was simply pulling my leg; and you, who QFT'd his post.
Your next paragraph makes very little sense to me, so excuse me for breaking it up part by part:
cavjj wrote:They were admittedly pros and cons of trying to force your hand.As you said yourself, putting scum under pressure is one of the best strategies available citing a game where not once did you actually have to lie.
So the pro was to pressure me, and the con was to make me share premature thoughts? I don't know if "forcing my hand" actually pressured me to do something, since I said upfront that I would share my premature thoughts if put at L-1 (I think it's necessary to put everything on the table while I still have a chance to contribute). That's just doing what I want to do on my terms, so you didn't actually add any pressure. It is good that you are conversing with me, though.
If you are scum, the way I see it, you've given people on here an oppertunity (which I took) to put yourself under pressure.
I do invite any pressure that anyone wants to put on me. I don't care how sloppy the pressure makes me, because I have nothing to hide or lie about.
I was looking for a slip to be honest.
And what did you find?
I would rather go for an early successful scum lynch early on through gut instinct and risk losing a VT if that means that we have one less scum embedding themselves into the game, gathering... "supporters" (for want of a better word)
This is something I often think about, too. Because the more someone talks, the more explaining and defending that person can do. I don't know about anyone else, but I am usually pretty sympathetic in those situations and am easy swayed, or at least made to hesitate, by explanations. So sometimes, an early scum read is a good thing to lynch on, but it takes a lot of the detective work out of the game.
The other reason, I wanted to press you and why I'm suspicious is your treatment of the random questions at the start of the game. You aren't bothered about who has played where or how many times and whatever else, but some people are. At least one person is, they asked the question. The way I look at it; if every question, no matter how mundane, who it was asked by (and what role that person I think might have) was answered, we gain more information and it makes it easier to find who is a VT and who isn't. If I think you are a scum and you ask a question, I will still want to see it answered by the group/person you asked it to. I don't think I'll be alone with that stance.
I admitted as much in my first criticism of it; other may find it useful, but I don't particularly find those questions interesting or useful to me. I understand the social aspect. It was merely a preamble to asking my own question.
But, you wanted to get right down to the thick of it. I actually thought in my head, reading the post "He's looking for PR's". Are you looking for PR's to save yourself? Or because you are Scum?
I'm looking for power roles? What does my question have to do with power roles? I'm neither scum nor trying to save myself. I'm trying to help town win the game. In other words, lynch me if you want, but give me an opportunity to leave what I think is an adequate amount of good info to be used later in the game.
Apologies for leaving at this point but I will be back on later.
No need to apologize; thanks for unvoting and talking to me.