Open 320- Tit for Tat: Game Over!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think I got chainsaw defended.
That's nice LLD, except I said 'lolego' before your test.

You used it twice. Once before and then once after AGAIN.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So Seraphim's gonna be Cowboy Bebop level stupid again.

Sounds good.

[Seraphim]

At least you were engaged in that game.

Also, this chainsaw defense is absolutely bullshit. You should know better.

[Seraphim]

Not to mention my gambit actually did help me find, not only scum, but my target as well.

[SleepyKrew]

LLD!

Me: ego
You: ego=scum!
Me: How does ego=scum!?
You: It doesn't, but that answer does!

??? You're a terrible girlfriend.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, totally, because egos are alignment-dependent.

This is post #218, which is AFTER post 217 where my gambit exists.

[SleepyKrew]

Yes, I said this BECAUSE I ALREADY MENTIONED MY EGO BEFORE YOUR TEST.

[SleepyKrew]

Hey, apparently malp was V/LA and forgot to tell people. Might want to shoot him

a PM

.

[Gammagooey]

Votecount #15

verydark(2) Lady Lambdadelta, SleepyKrew
Lady Lambdadelta (2) malpascp, Seraphim
Seraphim(2) Magua, MagnaofIllusion
SigmaEXE003(1) StefanB
SleepyKrew(1) verydark

malpascp(0)
Magua(0)
StefanB(0)
MagnaofIllusion(0)

Not Voting: SigmaEXE003

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Day 2 Deadline is: Wednesday, August 3rd 6:00pm EST

Still trying to get replacements, I'll ask malp if he still wants his spot here.
If I can't fill both spots by the night of the 30th I'll extend the deadline until the spots are filled.

[malpascp]

Sorry guys, I was warned about my V/LA very fast, and didn't had the time to say so in every game. I was expecting Magua to tell you that, as he knew I was V/LA, but it's funny that SK noticed it first...

I will read everything new.

btw: I don't want to be replaced

Kay! Thanks for not making me find another replacement >_>

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yes, I said this BECAUSE I ALREADY MENTIONED MY EGO BEFORE YOUR TEST.

Yeah, so you affirmed it as your defense.

[SleepyKrew]

Because I didn't get your case (and it turns out you didn't have one, because it was a reactiontest)!
Seraph, explanation of reads?

[Gammagooey]

Shift is replacing SigmaEXE003 once he becomes available tomorrow. However, he would like be in a hydra if possible largely because of a planned vacation in early August.

A hydra is two players that use the same role PM, player-slot, and a joint account to play in the game for fun and to allow the hydra to continue playing the game even if one of the players in it can't currently post. If don't want a hydra in the game, please send me a PM within 48 hours to discuss it with me- otherwise Shift will post for the hydra until the hydra account is activated and joins the game.

[StefanB]

Hello again.
Hello Shift. Have no problems with a hydra, just a question for Shift: Will you reveal your other head?

Unvote

Vote: Malpascp

So I see, you were away from other games, 3 days. Here you were not posting a week. Why were you lurking here?
Ad this to a L-1 vote, that come of after 2 other posts.
We have a very lurkish player, who is a lot more posting in his other games, we have a player with 3 post in day one (one of them his second we still don't know I he meant in serious)
Care to explain your VLA excuse?

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD – I’ll be V/LA from 4pm EST today until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties.

Welcome Shift-Hydra. I just want the thread full and active.

Ok, Seraphim looks to be posting.

UNVOTE: Seraphim
VOTE: verydark

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I thought I posted my post in this goddamn thread. And I deleted it. GODDAMMIT. It amounted to:
MoI reading town
SleepyKrew reading town
Magua reading mostly town
Verydark leaning scum
LLD SCUMSCUMSCUM

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

I can elaborate as I did in my original post(DAMN YOU ABSENT MIND) but I don't have time at the moment.

Note to self … look into meta of “Oh, my post got eaten” to see if it is strongly correclated with scum.

I’d very much like elaboration on why LLD and verydark are likely scum.

Do you think LLD would actively bus her partner when my early pressure slid off him?

--

Sorry guys, I was warned about my V/LA very fast, and didn't had the time to say so in every game. I was expecting Magua to tell you that, as he knew I was V/LA, but it's funny that SK noticed it first...

I will read everything new.

btw: I don't want to be replaced

There had best be significant content in your next post that should be made before I come back from V/LA.

--

[Magua]

Sorry guys, I was warned about my V/LA very fast, and didn't had the time to say so in every game. I was expecting Magua to tell you that, as he knew I was V/LA, but it's funny that SK noticed it first...

Yeah, I missed it in my own game. =P

Re: Shift. I'd prefer no-hydra, but I will take a hydra over an empty slot, and I will take a hydra over having to have the slot replaced in August. I do want to know the other head of the hydra. That's non-negotiable.

SK and LLD need to either start ignoring eachother or posting more than pointless one-liners that not only are pointless, but make me want to lynch them both.

I see nothing in Seraphim's posts that make me want to unvote him.

[Gammagooey]

Votecount #16

verydark(3) Lady Lambdadelta, SleepyKrew, MagnaofIllusion
Lady Lambdadelta (2) malpascp, Seraphim
Seraphim(1) Magua
SleepyKrew(1) verydark
malpascp(1) StefanB

Shift(SigmaEXE003)(0)
Magua(0)
StefanB(0)
MagnaofIllusion(0)

Not Voting: Shift(SigmaEXE003)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Day 2 Deadline is: Wednesday, August 3rd 6:00pm EST

[Shift]

Hello everyone, I'm currently catching up and will be done soon. Will make a big catchup post sometime today, but to answer questions asked since I replaced:

1. Yes, I will out my other head. I'm trying to find one right now, have two people in mind. One says he will answer me later, other I haven't gotten to talk to. I don't like hiding hydra heads, so yes this will be immediately outed once I know for sure.

2. The hydra will be on an account called Luxury if I find another head, if not I will try again before I go on vacation to find another head and just play solo for now.

[Shift]

EBWOP:

Gamma, is it OK if I start posting on Luxury? This way I won't need to switch accounts if I can't find a hydra head until shortly before vacation. It was activated quite a while back.

Yeah that's fine.

[Shift]

Alright, reads. I'm not normally very good at reading people who speak in walls when I wasn't there when they posted it, but I did get a few other reads this game.

First, because I have to every game I play with him from now on (He knows why, if you don't, Magua, ask Regfan for a quick refresher):

Vote: Magua

lol i trullz u (I also can't believe this is the first vote my slot has made in the game in 17 pages)

Second, Sleepy is scum.

My ego demands that I remind everyone I was the first to suspect mal.

No, no, no. Well, could be fine I guess.

Hey WAIT A SECOND YOU POSTED THIS RIGHT BEFORE

Hey Stefan.
While I agree malp is scummy.
Did you read Magua's post?
And the one Seraphim posted?
You should.
Just sheep Magua onto Seraphim.

What this comes off as: Hey I tried to distance but then decided to vote the guy that replaced in as a joke. Btw, I want credit for the lynch when he flips scum. @SK, remind me again how it is "obviously" a joke vote when you don't have any history with Magua?

Yeah, totally, because egos are alignment-dependent.

ACK IM CAUGHT

I cannot put into words how bad this reaction is.

WILL PEOPLE EXPLAIN WHY MY POSTS ARE SCUMMY PLEASE

This post, coming from you, has to be the most hypocritical thing I've seen all game.

Seraphim's V/LA is over, right?

So I get to wagon Sera now, right?

Not going to bother with quoting Stefan on his reasons since of course, 1. They're already pointed out 2. Sleepy didn't even really defend himself, just said "OK can't change your mind/Fair enough" This deserves to be pointed out again though:

1. I wanted to join because I have townreads on all three of them. I'll probably end up voting with them anyway, so no biggie.

So you are saying that the fact that a Voting Block is always going to be voting outside its membership had nothing to do with your decision?

If not why didn’t you just follow along as you said above and not specifically ask to be included?

I honestly don't know. I guess I just wanted to feel included?

No. No. No.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: verydark
Just a note, LYLO tomorrow if we mislynch.

Awesome, the voting block is lynching someone that isn't me, and they're one of my FoSes! Time to sheep and then give a helpful tip for free town points! Someone mentioned it that I can't remember, but it looks like you KNOW it's a mislynch.

WILL PEOPLE EXPLAIN WHY MY POSTS ARE SCUMMY PLEASE

People have. Many times, as I am now.

Unvote, Vote: SleepyKrew

I am not happy with my predecessor at all, but I'll have to get over it.

Have town reads on Stefan, MoI, and LLD.

Have thought a lot about who SK's scumbuddies might be but I'm too exhausted to ISO each and every one of them to find out for sure. Main suspects are SK, verydark, and malp. More to come tomorrow, reads on verydark/malp likely to change, town reads/SK read not.

[SleepyKrew]

Is your second quote the wrong post? Because you're referencing my Magua joke-vote, which isn't mentioned in that quote. But yes, it's an obvious joke. He says to make him feel welcome. So I welcomed him (I've done this with replacements before, don't make me self-meta!).

I cannot put into words how nobody realizes that I take suspicion of me with no good reason very poorly. Or how poorly written that sentence was.

How is that post hypocritical?

DID I wagon onto Seraph? No. I was being curious.

Okay, so I can't vote with my townread voting bloc on one of my suspects? How do lynches happen then? Also, do you see the word if? IF it's a mislynch. Not 'tomorrow is LYLO no matter what'.

When did malp and verydark become suspects? Your entire post is centered on me.

Now, since people seem to be having trouble with it:

TOWN
Magua
MoI
LLD
Stefan
Seraphim
malp
Shift
verydark
SCUM

Willing to lynch any of the bottom three, doing some thinking on Seraphim.

[Gammagooey]

Votecount #17

verydark(3) Lady Lambdadelta, SleepyKrew, MagnaofIllusion
Lady Lambdadelta (2) malpascp, Seraphim
SleepyKrew(2) verydark, Shift
Seraphim(1) Magua
malpascp(1) StefanB

Shift(0)
Magua(0)
StefanB(0)
MagnaofIllusion(0)

Not Voting: Nobody

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Day 2 Deadline is: Wednesday, August 3rd 6:00pm EST

[Luxury]

From now on will be posting on Luxury, as of now still no other head.

Is your second quote the wrong post?Because you're referencing my Magua joke-vote, which isn't mentioned in that quote. But yes, it's an obvious joke. He says to make him feel welcome. So I welcomed him (I've done this with replacements before, don't make me self-meta!).

Forgot to quote to quote the part where you said Magna was a joke vote, but didn't see the part about didn't see it as a joke vote as I made the case in ISO. I remember what post you're talking about though that makes it a joke. Congratulations, you've discredited one small line of my case.

I cannot put into words how nobody realizes that I take suspicion of me with no good reason very poorly. Or how poorly written that sentence was.

How is that post hypocritical?

It's hypocritical because you've asked for explanation on a lot of things, yet until you have explained next to nothing. And saying "I play like that" is, contrary to popular belief, not a solid defense from an attack.

DID I wagon onto Seraph? No. I was being curious.

AKA wagontesting/wagonfishing. You've repeatedly stating that you're willing to wagon Sera but have yet to make a stance on his alignment, granted this cannot be entirely your fault as his lack of posting is ridiculous. But the fact that you keep mentioning him and your willingness to wagon him is what strikes me as scummy.

Examples, in no order as I picked them out from ISO:

I'll sheep that.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seraphim
So Harry Potter lasted 2+ days?

Hey Stefan.
While I agree malp is scummy.
Did you read Magua's post?
And the one Seraphim posted?
You should.
Just sheep Magua onto Seraphim.

Seraphim said in his last post he was going out to see Harry Potter. Since he hadn't posted since then...
So no comments on me being scum?
PEDIT: Making a solid case on someone scummy and then not voting is protown?

Sigma
veydark
malp
Seraphim

In there.

Seraphim's V/LA is over, right?

Yeah, I'm just going to go on the biggest wagon of those 4, which at the moment is verydark. Notice his misrep of me? Cool.

Expressing intention to wagon verydark, but shows willingness to lynch any of his 4 scumreads, Sera being one of them.

TOWN
Magua
MoI
LLD
Stefan
Seraphim
malp
Shift
verydark
SCUM

Willing to lynch any of the bottom three, doing some thinking on Seraphim.

You are blatantly fencesitting on a Seraphim wagon, waiting for a chance to lynch him but not taking a stance until you get a chance to either A. Wagon him for an easy mislynch/bus (Not sure yet, more on this later) B. Get a chance to declare him town when the rest of town starts to do so.

Okay, so I can't vote with my townread voting bloc on one of my suspects? How do lynches happen then?

Second question has nothing to do with it. Voting blocs do not need to happen to get a lynch, just players deciding someone is scummy. Asking to join a voting bloc with two townies has obvious benefits for you if you're scum, which is what we are pushing on.

A. Get to assume more direct control of the lynch through influencing other members of the bloc
B. Get a "get out of wagon free card" as being in a voting bloc makes you a less likely lynch
C. Get a "get out of death after you push a mislynch free card" as you have an excuse for why you voted a player when they flip town

Also, do you see the word if? IF it's a mislynch. Not 'tomorrow is LYLO no matter what'.

The fact that you throw something out like that out there when trying to wagon someone is what is odd to me. Of course I can't expect you to just say "If you mislynch the guy I'm pushing it will be LyLo tomorrow". This is all in tone, which sadly you cannot really defend against, but there are other things here you can, and you haven't.

When did malp and verydark become suspects? Your entire post is centered on me.

Have thought a lot about who SK's scumbuddies might be but I'm too exhausted to ISO each and every one of them to find out for sure. Main suspects are SK, verydark, and malp.

Have been busy today, but again will do this sometime soon. For now I'm happy with just pushing one scum, I have plenty of time to find the rest.

Points in my case Sleepy refuted: 1 tiny sentence of no real importance.

Better luck next time.

[Luxury]

EBWOP:

Forgot to quote to quote the part where you said Magna was a joke vote, but didn't see the part about didn't see it as a joke vote as I made the case in ISO. I remember what post you're talking about though that makes it a joke.

Sorry, looks like I went full retard in this. This should read:

Forgot to quote the part where you said Magna was a joke vote, but didn't see the post that made it obviously a joke as I made the case in ISO. I remember what post you're talking about though, believe it was from Gamma.

[SleepyKrew]

If people want explanations, I'll give them. But I don't recall being asked.

How the hell was I uncommitted on Sera? I said I'm willing to lynch him, isn't that commitment? My most recent post about him is the first time I fencesat, and this happened AFTER your case post (expect definitive stance on Sera in a bit).

You say voting bloc has two townies. It's a three person voting bloc, actually. And how do you know they're townies? SCUMSLIP (sorry MoI)?