gorilla wrote:I've still around because 1. I am town and have been correctly read as town by pretty much everyone and 2. I've been pretty much nonthreatening to the scum
No, you've been around because you ARE scum. No one can kill you. You have not been correctly read by anyone except ME. And that was early. How interesting that I have managed to get EVERY SINGLE READ WRONG except this one. Don't let this scumbag survive.
it's been a pretty much nuke-driven game from day 3 out so that's why we're sitting here and it's sort of ridiculous it came down to this, but oh well. hez has gotten by the past few days pretty much on the fuck-off power of the fail safe where no one wants to nuke him because they don't want to die. he showed some early game bluster but in my opinion hasn't really towntold in a significant way. to be honest his posting is reminiscent of deflated scum in a lot of regards. admitting he can't find shit on me is pretty close to admitting my innocence because i'm not some mafia god who is incapable of slipping.
I've gotten by because a shit-ton of people have called me obvtown. A shit-ton. Fewer people have called gorilla obvtown. Pooky, in making your decision, realize that you have two people who both are town. You can invent a case on anyone in order to make them scum. That's confirmation bias. I ask you to leave the person alive who is MORE TOWN. If either of us had significant scumtells, we wouldn't be in this situation right now.
the suggestion that i pulled off some sort of genius tier double bus where LLD tries to SK hunt me then i claim and we try to break our own code and she gets caught BSing it is pretty much insane, because i haven't really tried to take credit for that at all, i'm an idiot and my reads this game were horrible, my credit for catching LLD is basically solely limited to the role i drafted and i'm not afraid to admit that. but those interactions are pretty much the net whole of why i'm town - that sort of exchange is too complicated to fake and i could barely understand the code
Playing the "I'm an idiot" card. You've done nothing but let your buddies set you up this game for the long run. Then you've coasted, and actively avoided making anyone angry lest you fail completely. I've actually scumhunted, VOLUNTEERED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR PEOPLE TO NUKE ME, haven't coasted (unlike gorillascum), and am far more worthy to be the sole survivor. If anything, Pooky, there will be far more people yelling at you post-game if you nuke me than if you nuke gorilla. And that's WITHOUT hindsight bias.
i requested this game day that either i get hammer or i be the final survivor, because i know me surviving is a guaranteed town win, but if there wasn't a sufficient level of trust, then i'd rather be slated to die first so i could be confirmed town and have the decision over who survives because then it would be my responsibility and my decision influencing the outcome of the game and i'd have preferred that to getting nukehammered on. that's not something i'd even consider asking as scum because even if the chance of me getting hammer were slim, it would be an instant loss if i did so.
Me surviving is a guaranteed town win. You surviving is a guaranteed-you win. Your post is highly suspicious because you are actively trying to make yourself look town. Why? I'M IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU. I AM ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS. Yet, I am scared as fuck to take the hammer. You have no fucking clue about this game either. Why would you even SUGGEST that you deserve the hammer?
so in a nutshell i am totally town because i am not good enough to fake it, also i love America
Fuck you you are good enough to fake it. All you did this fucking game was choose a role that would allow you to have your buddies set you up, did your very very best to not piss anyone off, and coasted by on people's lack of suspicion for you.
The above is also a huge AtE. I can do that too -- my story is better than yours. Here I am as the person SpyreX wanted to POLICY LYNCH. Those words have never burned me deeper. Yet, if I am sole survivor, I can look at his ass when this game is over and say bitch please, my obvtownness just won you the game. I am also the person who Mina pointed out has GOTTEN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING READ WRONG. Not only who is scum, but who is town. Every single one. But as the sole survivor, I would be completely redeemed based on my play today. Gorilla, my story is WAY BETTER than yours, so don't even try this AtE bullshit with me.
p-edit: i'll be completely honest here, i have been trying to avoid pissing anyone off, it's an awkward situation because i got complacent and assumed town would hit scum sooner, hez could afford to be a bit more aggressive because no one wanted to nuke him and everyone was wanting to save him for this final day. like i said it was a nuke driven game and most of the decisions made were out of my hands
You admit my point is correct. What town motivation is there to avoid pissing people off?
This might be my strongest point, Pooky, so read. With 11 (or howeverm any alive once we had caught all scum but one) alive, no town actually looks at the game and thinks "Okay, I have no idea who the mafia is. My goal is to make myself look so town that I have to be the sole survivor."
They don't do this. They scumhunt, try and figure out who the scum is (as I have done, and gorilla has been completely lacking in post-LLD), and they ASSUME THE TOWN IS GOING TO FUCKING WIN. Do you know why gorilla didn't scumhunt? (Besides the fact that it would be insta-gameover for him by attacking someone with a nuke) Because there is nothing in it for him. For any other townie, especially when it was clear that the last European wasn't just giong to show up and die but rather be very difficult to find, there is a certain amoutn of GLORY in CATCHING THE LAST SCUM. As a town, you want to be that guy who does it. I tried twice -- with IS adn Pooky. I was wrong both times. But the fact that I even tried is why I am town and he is not -- I wanted the glory of finding the last one. Gorilla only cares about BEING the last one.
Friday night I will probably be going out like any normal person, but I am here to answer as many questions as you need me to until then.
