ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Hinduragi]

You and I both know it isn't that simple.

[Magua]

On the contrary, I believe it is that simple.

A scum claims. Cult can't do diddly squat to this scum.

Scum wants to lynch cult just as much (if not moreso) than town does. At this point, scum either lose if town is lynched, or are at the verge of losing if town is lynched.

If cult recruiter is not lynched or killed at some point, scum lose the game anyways and the claim is irrelevant.

If cult recruiter is lynched or killed, that scum claim will get lynched.

So it's essentially like a 1-for-1 trade for the scum, trading one of their own for the cult recruiter. In the case where we don't get the recruiter *anyways*, it literally costs them nothing.

Or to put it another way:
1) Town lynch today is bad.
2) Scum lynch today is bad.

The scum have it in their power to ensure that #2 does not occur at all, and may have other information that makes #1 less likely.

[Lost Butterfly]

well scum know their buddies, so that's the pool narrowed down some hopefully.

then scum can see there's some obv non cr's so there's the pool narrowed down


so actually scum leading the lynch are more likely to hit the cr.

[Hinduragi]

Yeah, but a recruit could claim scum.

[Magua]

Yeah, but a recruit could claim scum.

Do you think these things through before you post?

Just curious.

[ooba]

Vote Count

Benmage (2)

- Empking, SpyreX

Cogito Ergo Sum (2)

- Espeonage, Thor665

Empking (4)

- Benmage, Cogito Ergo Sum, Hinduragi, Lost Butterfly

Nexus (1)

- Magua

Not Voting (2)

- Locke Lamora, Nexus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

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Deadline is in

(expired on 2011-07-30 23:59:59)

[Lost Butterfly]

not voting (2) Locke lamora nexus


LOL WHAT THE FUCK AREYOU DOING WITH 1 DAY TO GO

[Empking]

Mod: I moved my vote.

[Hinduragi]

Look, I like to gambit as scum. I'd take the opportunity to risk my ass and see who the scum were when they voted me as well as mindfuck the town.

[Magua]

One scum would directly counterclaim; someone else would get lynched, directed by neither of those claims, recruit would get shot that Night.

[Hinduragi]

And? I just effectively found a scum, possibly got another townie or that scum added to my faction, and took attention off of my CR.

[Lost Butterfly]

I???


OMG SLIP. SLIP.

[Hinduragi]

Yes, I, because I would do that.

[Magua]

And? I just effectively found a scum, possibly got another townie or that scum added to my faction, and took attention off of my CR.

You only found another scum if the scum didn't outright claim, which they really should, so, irrelevant.

Added another town to the faction at the cost of 100% losing a recruit, so, meh, treading water.

Didn't take attention off of the CR -- removed two people from the lynch pool (you and your scum counterclaim), increasing the chance that your CR is going to be lynched today.

IOW, it would be the same result as if a cult recruit just jumped up and yelled, "I'm a recruit, lynch me": of the two deaths (lynch, shot), you are 100% guaranteeing at least one of them will be cult. Which is obviously bad play.

@Lost Butterfly:

Seriously, if you have nothing constructive to add...

[Magua]

possibly got another townie or that scum added to my faction

Realized I'm 100% assuming that the scum are unrecruitable, both because of flavor (they're so fervent in their beliefs they're willing to kill for it, no reason they'll get converted to R'hollor) and balance (recruited scum tells cult all scum partners).

[Hinduragi]

Oh yeah, balance-wise that does make sense. Oh well. All the more reason for scum to claim.

[Empking]

Cult can win just by treading water.

[Magua]

All the more reason the scum should fucking claim to narrow our pool of suspects and increase our chance of lynching scum.

Seriously, I expected Locke to do it awhile back, because if we ever kill the recruiter, he's going to get *strung* up anyways. But no time to wait for him on that one anymore.

[Magua]

EBWOP: lynching

scum

cult.

Eh, whatever.

[Empking]

Though I'm 90% sure this would be "a disgrace to mafia everywhere" moment. I'm a Mafia Watcher.

[Magua]

Thank fucking god.

Share your real reports if you have anything of interest, but I'm assuming for now that some of them are fake.

I sheep your vote now.

VOTE: Benmage

[Empking]

Thank fucking god.

Share your real reports if you have anything of interest, but I'm assuming for now that some of them are fake.

They were 100% true

I sheep your vote now.

VOTE: Benmage

Unvote

Vote: Benmage[/b]

[Magua]

Was your team provided Crone as a fakeclaim, or did you just gambit it?

[Empking]

It was our fakeclaim.

Unvote

Vote: Benmage

[Hinduragi]

Unvote; Vote: Benmage

THANK YOU EMPKING